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01-14-2023, 06:32 AM
#1951
What stopping the ATF from declaring all AR’s are easily convertible to full auto and declaring all AR’s as illegal machine guns subject to confiscation?
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01-14-2023, 06:40 AM
#1952
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Absolutely nothing. Until they are smacked by oversight for authority they don't have they will continue to change rules as their whim.
What stopping the ATF from declaring all AR’s are easily convertible to full auto and declaring all AR’s as illegal machine guns subject to confiscation?
This does make one wonder, what exactly do they think their mission statement is? Every action they take is directly aimed at punishing the average citizen.
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01-14-2023, 06:41 AM
#1953
I'd prefer a traditional SBR setup over a pistol brace too, but I respect people's decision to get a pistol over an SBR. Most people have families and don't want to run the risk of having an SBR illegally. They also might not want to pay and extra $200 and wait 9+ months for an SBR.
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01-14-2023, 06:47 AM
#1954
Originally Posted By EDcellent⏩
The signers of the Declaration of Independence had wives and kids too. It was just a few taxes the colonists should have paid, nothing to die over.
I'd prefer a traditional SBR setup over a pistol brace too, but I respect people's decision to get a pistol over an SBR. Most people have families and don't want to run the risk of having an SBR illegally. They also might not want to pay and extra $200 and wait 9+ months for an SBR.
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01-14-2023, 06:59 AM
#1955
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
I'm not going to disagree with you. It's unfortunate that most people only look out for themselves and their immediate families now. Few people step outside their comfort zone to do what's right, or stand up for others. Most people say "Not my state." "Not my City." "Not my problem." They don't realize most of these laws and restrictions are domino's.
The signers of the Declaration of Independence had wives and kids too. It was just a few taxes the colonists should have paid, nothing to die over.
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01-14-2023, 09:37 AM
#1956
I was planning to SBR my 7.62x39 AR Pistol. I will now be SBR-ing it for free. The federal government knows I own firearms, since I have 4 suppressors registered to me.
I hope this is overturned, and that the overreach results in the overthrow of the NFA, but in the meantime I'm taking the free stamp
I hope this is overturned, and that the overreach results in the overthrow of the NFA, but in the meantime I'm taking the free stamp
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01-14-2023, 10:02 AM
#1957
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Just pay the $200 instead of being a shining example of how the ATF ruling worked as designed. You giving them a W by taking the free stamp. Can’t even put up the smallest resistance lol.
Just pay the $200 instead of being a shining example of how the ATF ruling worked as designed. You giving them a W by taking the free stamp. Can’t even put up the smallest resistance lol.
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01-14-2023, 10:06 AM
#1958
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
If someone was already about to SBR their rifle, why the fk would they not do it for free? You're surely gonna show the ATF by handing them over $200 along with your form! That'll tell em!
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Just pay the $200 instead of being a shining example of how the ATF ruling worked as designed. You giving them a W by taking the free stamp. Can’t even put up the smallest resistance lol.
Just pay the $200 instead of being a shining example of how the ATF ruling worked as designed. You giving them a W by taking the free stamp. Can’t even put up the smallest resistance lol.
SBR your gun while handing over $200: OKAY
SBR your gun for free: BAD!!
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01-14-2023, 10:19 AM
#1959
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Yes, actually. It’s a different form to get the free one. You wouldn’t do it because you don’t want the ATF to realize 99% of gun owners are huge Cucks and will comply with whatever bullchit scheme they come up with. If Ike cares about his daughters second amendment rights he will not comply.
If someone was already about to SBR their rifle, why the fk would they not do it for free? You're surely gonna show the ATF by handing them over $200 along with your form! That'll tell em!
SBR your gun while handing over $200: OKAY
SBR your gun for free: BAD!!
SBR your gun while handing over $200: OKAY
SBR your gun for free: BAD!!
What are you poor is $200 supposed to be alot of money ?
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01-14-2023, 10:25 AM
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Let’s plan a million brace march in DC next weekend !
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01-14-2023, 10:39 AM
#1961
Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
If there are lists to worry about being on, 0 people posting about this are off all the lists
Bc they want you on the list. The people that have evaded the list legally. To know what you own. To track you. So later they can take them away. It’s not rocket science. It’s clear as day what their end game is. Don’t be so naive.
Most dangerous words you’ll ever hear the Gov say “we’re here to help” and/or “it’s free”
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01-14-2023, 10:41 AM
#1962
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Would you mind sharing all of their full legal names so we can independently verify that none of them have ever faced any charges?
There are literally thousands of videos on YouTube of thugs using illegal Glock switches and nothing ever happens
'cause you know it's not like they are all posting continuous updates to YouTube verifying and proving nothing ever happened.
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01-14-2023, 10:43 AM
#1963
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
I'm sorry to hear you have no clue whatsoever what the war for independence started over.
The signers of the Declaration of Independence had wives and kids too. It was just a few taxes the colonists should have paid, nothing to die over.
Please, I urge you, attend an Appleseed event and learn a thing or five.
Your ignorance is embarrassing honestly next thing you know you're going to ask what trigger reset is
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01-14-2023, 10:44 AM
#1964
Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
So how's this "free" SBR work? You buy/have a pistol AR, but you then register it with the ATF and then put a traditional stock on it?
I was planning to SBR my 7.62x39 AR Pistol. I will now be SBR-ing it for free. The federal government knows I own firearms, since I have 4 suppressors registered to me.
I hope this is overturned, and that the overreach results in the overthrow of the NFA, but in the meantime I'm taking the free stamp
I hope this is overturned, and that the overreach results in the overthrow of the NFA, but in the meantime I'm taking the free stamp
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01-14-2023, 11:15 AM
#1965
Lmao at you clowns with mUh LisT!1!1!
Bruh if you’ve ever bought a gun online, bought a gun at a gunshop with a credit card, posted in firearm ******** groups…list goes on and on and on and on…you’re already on several fking “lists”.
Get a fking grip. Getting your free stamp is 100% not the first thing that will have gotten you on some fking list.
Or just be a bad ass and don’t. You have options.
- Put a 16” barrel on said firearm.
- destroy it
- turn it over to the ATF
- take brace and buffer tube off and have the gun be inoperable (if you read it, they basically word it in a way that since a buffer tube can be shouldered - it’s still a no go)
- keep it as is like a real bad ass and live life as a felon
I’ll just be the fudd who takes his free stamp and moves on with my life.
Bruh if you’ve ever bought a gun online, bought a gun at a gunshop with a credit card, posted in firearm ******** groups…list goes on and on and on and on…you’re already on several fking “lists”.
Get a fking grip. Getting your free stamp is 100% not the first thing that will have gotten you on some fking list.
Or just be a bad ass and don’t. You have options.
- Put a 16” barrel on said firearm.
- destroy it
- turn it over to the ATF
- take brace and buffer tube off and have the gun be inoperable (if you read it, they basically word it in a way that since a buffer tube can be shouldered - it’s still a no go)
- keep it as is like a real bad ass and live life as a felon
I’ll just be the fudd who takes his free stamp and moves on with my life.
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01-14-2023, 11:30 AM
#1966
I'm not sure anyone has said that it's an SBR stamp for certain.
I could be wrong, I just haven't heard for certain that it is, in fact, a free SBR stamp. Last I knew it was supposedly a stamp for a brace.
I could be wrong, I just haven't heard for certain that it is, in fact, a free SBR stamp. Last I knew it was supposedly a stamp for a brace.
01-14-2023, 11:46 AM
#1967
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
How could you stamp a brace? It’s not serialized lol.
I'm not sure anyone has said that it's an SBR stamp for certain.
I could be wrong, I just haven't heard for certain that it is, in fact, a free SBR stamp. Last I knew it was supposedly a stamp for a brace.
I could be wrong, I just haven't heard for certain that it is, in fact, a free SBR stamp. Last I knew it was supposedly a stamp for a brace.
It has to be for the actual serialized firearm itself.
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01-14-2023, 11:58 AM
#1968
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I'm not saying anything about serializing anything. And I could be completely wrong about this.
How could you stamp a brace? It’s not serialized lol.
It has to be for the actual serialized firearm itself.
It has to be for the actual serialized firearm itself.
Have you ever done a Form 1 for an SBR? There could simply be a selection in a drop down for a stabilizing brace.
The verbage is unclear.
"This rule does not affect “stabilizing braces” that are objectively designed and intended as a “stabilizing brace” for use by individuals with disabilities, and not for shouldering the weapon as a rifle. Such stabilizing braces are designed to conform to the arm and not as a buttstock. However, if the firearm with the “stabilizing brace” is a short-barreled rifle, it needs to be registered within 120-days from the date of publication in the Federal Register.
This rule is effective the date it is published in the Federal Register. Any weapons with “stabilizing braces” or similar attachments that constitute rifles under the NFA must be registered no later than 120 days after date of publication in the Federal Register; or the short barrel removed and a 16-inch or longer rifle barrel attached to the firearm; or permanently remove and dispose of, or alter, the “stabilizing brace” such that it cannot be reattached; or the firearm is turned in to your local ATF office. Or the firearm is destroyed."
This rule is effective the date it is published in the Federal Register. Any weapons with “stabilizing braces” or similar attachments that constitute rifles under the NFA must be registered no later than 120 days after date of publication in the Federal Register; or the short barrel removed and a 16-inch or longer rifle barrel attached to the firearm; or permanently remove and dispose of, or alter, the “stabilizing brace” such that it cannot be reattached; or the firearm is turned in to your local ATF office. Or the firearm is destroyed."
01-14-2023, 12:05 PM
#1969
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Again - how would they track it without it being serialized? How would they know it’s actually a registered brace or not?
I'm not saying anything about serializing anything. And I could be completely wrong about this.
Have you ever done a Form 1 for an SBR? There could simply be a selection in a drop down for a stabilizing brace.
The verbage is unclear.
It just says it needs to be registered. It doesn't say it needs to be registered as an SBR.
Have you ever done a Form 1 for an SBR? There could simply be a selection in a drop down for a stabilizing brace.
The verbage is unclear.
It just says it needs to be registered. It doesn't say it needs to be registered as an SBR.
There’s no way this won’t be the actual firearm.
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01-14-2023, 12:06 PM
#1970
checking thread to make sure Farley is still being unnecessarily and constantly condescending itt. Leaving satisfied
01-14-2023, 12:11 PM
#1971
Wtf is 550
01-14-2023, 12:12 PM
#1972
Cliffs on the whole brace deal?
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01-14-2023, 12:15 PM
#1973
I just got a used pig pauer rangefinder. It’s pretty sick
01-14-2023, 12:18 PM
#1974
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Yeah, you don't get it and I don't care to explain anymore. The receiver would be the serialized part obviously.
Again - how would they track it without it being serialized? How would they know it’s actually a registered brace or not?
There’s no way this won’t be the actual firearm.
There’s no way this won’t be the actual firearm.
Ultimately it PROBABLY is an SBR stamp you get, but nothing I've seen actually say that for certain.
01-14-2023, 12:28 PM
#1975
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Yes you’re right. I don’t get it and you can’t explain it because what you’re saying makes zero sense.
Yeah, you don't get it and I don't care to explain anymore. The receiver would be the serialized part obviously.
Ultimately it PROBABLY is an SBR stamp you get, but nothing I've seen actually say that for certain.
Ultimately it PROBABLY is an SBR stamp you get, but nothing I've seen actually say that for certain.
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01-14-2023, 12:29 PM
#1976
How many people are they seriously expecting to comply with this? lol
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01-14-2023, 12:33 PM
#1977
Fuk son I'm picking up a CZ 75 compact but I had to get the 10-round mags. All the 15-round ones are sold out every-fuking-where.
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01-14-2023, 12:41 PM
#1978
Originally Posted By iabs⏩
I don’t have a pistol brace or an SBR, so I wonder if they’ll let be register all my guns for good measure, anyway?
How many people are they seriously expecting to comply with this? lol
01-14-2023, 12:54 PM
#1979
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
It almost seems that it's a stamp for a brace, not necessarily a stock.
Yes you’re right. I don’t get it and you can’t explain it because what you’re saying makes zero sense.
No where does it say that once you register you can now throw a stock on if you want.
01-14-2023, 01:05 PM
#1980
Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Bc buying pistols. In cash (even not in cash). And registering it. As a pistol….Is the same list as an SBR, silencer etc. mmmk
Lmao at you clowns with mUh LisT!1!1!
Bruh if you’ve ever bought a gun online, bought a gun at a gunshop with a credit card, posted in firearm ******** groups…list goes on and on and on and on…you’re already on several fking “lists”.
Get a fking grip. Getting your free stamp is 100% not the first thing that will have gotten you on some fking list.
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Bruh if you’ve ever bought a gun online, bought a gun at a gunshop with a credit card, posted in firearm ******** groups…list goes on and on and on and on…you’re already on several fking “lists”.
Get a fking grip. Getting your free stamp is 100% not the first thing that will have gotten you on some fking list.
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