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08-27-2015, 01:23 PM
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need help deciding on what camera to get.

not much experience but have taken a class and had a t5i for a little while.

mainly I will be shooting some portrait and some action (motorcycle, some gym shoots). I want the image quality to be pretty damn good. I like the Canon brand overall, which camera would be my best bet? getting real confused over these 70d vs 7D vs mark ii vs etc. $1k max budget, will consider buying used.

guide me please
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08-27-2015, 05:58 PM
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need help deciding on what camera to get.

not much experience but have taken a class and had a t5i for a little while.

mainly I will be shooting some portrait and some action (motorcycle, some gym shoots). I want the image quality to be pretty damn good. I like the Canon brand overall, which camera would be my best bet? getting real confused over these 70d vs 7D vs mark ii vs etc. $1k max budget, will consider buying used.

guide me please
Your T5i should be up to the task for most of your needs…. but you'll want to invest in some good glass. Get glass that can move to your next camera once you grow out of the T5i…. so EF lenses, not EF-S. Get the 50mm f/1.8. ($125) You do NOT have an option on this. Then, I'd suggest either a 70-200 f/4 IS($800) or 70-200 f/2.8($850) to start. If you're willing to go third party lenses like Tamron you can get the f/2.8 for closer to $600. There goes your budget, but you'll be well equipped.
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08-27-2015, 08:31 PM
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Your T5i should be up to the task for most of your needs…. but you'll want to invest in some good glass. Get glass that can move to your next camera once you grow out of the T5i…. so EF lenses, not EF-S. Get the 50mm f/1.8. ($125) You do NOT have an option on this. Then, I'd suggest either a 70-200 f/4 IS($800) or 70-200 f/2.8($850) to start. If you're willing to go third party lenses like Tamron you can get the f/2.8 for closer to $600. There goes your budget, but you'll be well equipped.
only issue is he needs a body, ("had t5i") so needs to input his budget into a decent body and some decent glass, id say maybe t5i (body only 400 or so) with maybe 17-40L series f/4 (500 used or even less) the L series is transferable with a fullframe which will pay itself off later, try to avoid crop sensor only lenses since they'll be useless if you move up to FF

edit: 50mm is a must as well, its the best bang for your buck lens.
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08-27-2015, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted By snorlaxxx
need help deciding on what camera to get.

not much experience but have taken a class and had a t5i for a little while.

mainly I will be shooting some portrait and some action (motorcycle, some gym shoots). I want the image quality to be pretty damn good. I like the Canon brand overall, which camera would be my best bet? getting real confused over these 70d vs 7D vs mark ii vs etc. $1k max budget, will consider buying used.

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Used 6D can be had for 1K and a 5D mark Ii can definitely be had for less than 1K.

These are not great for action but excel in IQ and low light. If you want to shoot sports or birds or need reach go with 7D mk II or 70D

Is this for body only or with lenses as well.
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08-27-2015, 09:33 PM
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Used 6D can be had for 1K and a 5D mark Ii can definitely be had for less than 1K.

These are not great for action but excel in IQ and low light. If you want to shoot sports or birds or need reach go with 7D mk II or 70D

Is this for body only or with lenses as well.
I have two of these (5dmk2 and 7dmk2) for sale too!!
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Your T5i should be up to the task for most of your needs…. but you'll want to invest in some good glass. Get glass that can move to your next camera once you grow out of the T5i…. so EF lenses, not EF-S. Get the 50mm f/1.8. ($125) You do NOT have an option on this. Then, I'd suggest either a 70-200 f/4 IS($800) or 70-200 f/2.8($850) to start. If you're willing to go third party lenses like Tamron you can get the f/2.8 for closer to $600. There goes your budget, but you'll be well equipped.
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only issue is he needs a body, ("had t5i") so needs to input his budget into a decent body and some decent glass, id say maybe t5i (body only 400 or so) with maybe 17-40L series f/4 (500 used or even less) the L series is transferable with a fullframe which will pay itself off later, try to avoid crop sensor only lenses since they'll be useless if you move up to FF

edit: 50mm is a must as well, its the best bang for your buck lens.
thanks guys. (yeah dont have the t5i anymore) yeah I hadn't realized lenses can get that expensive. I need to do more research to understand the benefits/cons of all those lenses you guys were talking about. really not sure what all those terms mean. any good resources/links for me to read through?

also yeah, i was talking about 1k budget for body. figured i would have to start collecting lenses over time and that would be additional cost. thanks for the lenses recommendations, will look those up

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Used 6D can be had for 1K and a 5D mark Ii can definitely be had for less than 1K.

These are not great for action but excel in IQ and low light. If you want to shoot sports or birds or need reach go with 7D mk II or 70D

Is this for body only or with lenses as well.
body, and thanks will look into those. can you tell me the main differences between these models in simple terms? I've looked up the specs differences but making sense of the numbers is confusing me

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I have two of these (5dmk2 and 7dmk2) for sale too!!
whats the difference between those two? tried to google it before and couldn't find it, only the 5 in front vs the 7 so im assuming not a totally different camera

also what are the misc brah prices on those? i may be interested


thanks everyone, appreciate the help. hard to find this kind of information even with googling.
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08-28-2015, 02:14 AM
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thanks guys. (yeah dont have the t5i anymore) yeah I hadn't realized lenses can get that expensive. I need to do more research to understand the benefits/cons of all those lenses you guys were talking about. really not sure what all those terms mean. any good resources/links for me to read through?

also yeah, i was talking about 1k budget for body. figured i would have to start collecting lenses over time and that would be additional cost. thanks for the lenses recommendations, will look those up


body, and thanks will look into those. can you tell me the main differences between these models in simple terms? I've looked up the specs differences but making sense of the numbers is confusing me


whats the difference between those two? tried to google it before and couldn't find it, only the 5 in front vs the 7 so im assuming not a totally different camera

also what are the misc brah prices on those? i may be interested


thanks everyone, appreciate the help. hard to find this kind of information even with googling.
For canon the lower the model number the higher in the line it is

1D pro
5D semi pro
6D, 7D enthusiast - semi pro
50-60-70D enthusiast
Rebel - general consumer

The mark number is its iteration. 5d mark III is the 3rd edition mark II is the second.

1D 5D and 6D are full frame. Full frame perform better in low light and have a narrower depth of field at the same aperture.
All others are crop 1.6x

This means with the same lens at the same distance your field of view will be magnified by 1.6x for crop cameras

As far as image quality full frame will be better since it has less noise at higher ISO and more dynamic range as well. There is little difference between the image quality between the full frame cameras. The crop cameras are the same except the newer ones 70d and 7d mark II will have slightly better IQ than the rest of the crop cameras.

In terms of autofocus 1DX = 7D mark II which is slightly better than 5D mark III which is much better than 70D, 7D which is better than 60D which is better than 6D which is a little bit better than the 5D mark ii

FPS wise 1dx > 7d mk 2 > 7d > 5D I'm not sure about 60 and 70 d but it's somewhere around 7d

1dx and 7d mk II are the most weather sealed
5d mark 3 almost as good
7d below that
The rest are below this

1dx has a built in grip which includes a better battery and side grip for portrait use.

6d also has wifi and I think gps as well

6D is better than 5d mark II even though it is lower in the line because it is much newer.
Same can be said with 70d and 7d though that is arguable.
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08-28-2015, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted By snorlaxxx

whats the difference between those two? tried to google it before and couldn't find it, only the 5 in front vs the 7 so im assuming not a totally different camera

also what are the misc brah prices on those? i may be interested


thanks everyone, appreciate the help. hard to find this kind of information even with googling.
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Honestly, sounds like you are just getting into photography. I would just get a consumer level camera. I'd even consider a Sony Alpha series (they are the future, imo).
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08-28-2015, 07:11 AM
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My nikon d610 came back from the mail from me 2 days ago. I shipped it out last thursday. I was amazed at how fast nikon fixed it and sent it back. Must of caught them at a good time.


Did a few test shoots yesterday. Man i got some good results!
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08-28-2015, 08:55 AM
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only issue is he needs a body, ("had t5i") so needs to input his budget into a decent body and some decent glass, id say maybe t5i (body only 400 or so) with maybe 17-40L series f/4 (500 used or even less) the L series is transferable with a fullframe which will pay itself off later, try to avoid crop sensor only lenses since they'll be useless if you move up to FF

edit: 50mm is a must as well, its the best bang for your buck lens.
Doh! sorry, read it as "I have had"….. if you're going for sports or motorcycles(are they in motion or staged?) you'll maybe do better with a longer lens rather than a wider one. It'd also double as a portrait lens if you need it.
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08-28-2015, 11:18 AM
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edit: 50mm is a must as well, its the best bang for your buck lens.
it certainly is good value but i wouldnt say it is a must have. its probably my least used lens. that focal length just doesnt fit my shooting style
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08-28-2015, 12:35 PM
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For canon the lower the model number the higher in the line it is

1D pro
5D semi pro
6D, 7D enthusiast - semi pro
50-60-70D enthusiast
Rebel - general consumer

The mark number is its iteration. 5d mark III is the 3rd edition mark II is the second.

1D 5D and 6D are full frame. Full frame perform better in low light and have a narrower depth of field at the same aperture
All others are crop 1.6x

This means with the same lens at the same distance your field of view will be magnified by 1.6x for crop cameras

As far as image quality full frame will be better since it has less noise at higher ISO. And more dynamic range as well. There is little difference between the image quality between. The full frame cameras. The crop cameras the same except the newer ones 70d and 7d mark II will have slightly better IQ than the rest of the crop cameras.

In terms of autofocus 1DX = 7D mark II which is slightly better than 5D mark III which is much better than 70D, 7D which is better than 60D which is better than 6D which is a little bit better than the 5D mark ii

FPS wise 1dx > 7d mk 2 > 7d > 5D I'm. It sure about 60 and 70 d but it's somewhere around 7d or 5d mark III

1dx and 7d mk II are the most weather sealed
5d mark 3 almost as good
7d below that
The rest are below this

1dx has. Built in grip

6d also has wifi and I think gps as well

6D is better than 5d mark II even though it is lower in the line because it is much newer
Same can be said with 70d and 7d though that is arguable.
thank you so much man. you are awesome. this helps so much, gonna do some more reading before i pull the trigger
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Honestly, sounds like you are just getting into photography. I would just get a consumer level camera. I'd even consider a Sony Alpha series (they are the future, imo).
yeah youre right ill admit im not very experienced yet but I do want to step it up in terms of gear since I have the $ and want to start collecting good lenses that ill keep for a long time. never heard of those cameras ill look them up.

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Doh! sorry, read it as "I have had"….. if you're going for sports or motorcycles(are they in motion or staged?) you'll maybe do better with a longer lens rather than a wider one. It'd also double as a portrait lens if you need it.
motorcycles mostly in motion but also a few staged. thanks, any examples of the wider lenses that you recommend?
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08-28-2015, 12:41 PM
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I really despise the 50mm lens on a ff. It's not wide enough for most wide angle shots i take, and not close enough for portraits…


It's my least used too.
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Brahs, please check out my new website and tell me what it lacks, if anything, and what's good about it
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On a side note, my 50MM sigma 1.4 will be here today with my 6D after getting calibrated under warranty by Sigma. They received it Tuesday and had it hear today. Well done!
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www.codylerephotodesign.com

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On a side note, my 50MM sigma 1.4 will be here today with my 6D after getting calibrated under warranty by Sigma. They received it Tuesday and had it hear today. Well done!
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it certainly is good value but i wouldnt say it is a must have. its probably my least used lens. that focal length just doesnt fit my shooting style
yeah it fits well for my shooting style which is quite nice

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I really despise the 50mm lens on a ff. It's not wide enough for most wide angle shots i take, and not close enough for portraits…

It's my least used too.
I dust it off for portraits of 2-3 people when I can't back up enough with the 85 and want f/2 or faster. I mainly bring it along so I've got a backup normal lens in the event the 24-70 dies. Looking to replace it with the old 50 f/1.2 which is a beautiful lens if you don't mind manual focus (Nikon's ancient mount won't allow AF with anything faster than 1.4).

85 1.4 is my favorite portrait lens bar none. It can give me the same result as a 105 f/2 and still spit out 25mp files on a 36mp camera. It can also get close to a 135 f/2 and give me roughly 15mp files and at base ISO where noise isn't an issue that's fine. At higher ISO and when you want more resolution obviously you need those longer f/2 lenses but the 85 can cover for them in a lot of situations which makes it incredibly versatile.

If you ever see a good deal on the older AF-D version and have some spare cash, pull the trigger. I laugh at reviews fapping over how much sharper the G version supposedly is. I posted this a while back, shot at f/4.

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At higher ISO and when you want more resolution obviously you need those longer f/2 lenses…
Would you elaborate on this some? You can get more resolution with longer lenses?
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I had a 50mm f/1.4 on my 50D and now have an 85mm f/1.8 on my 5D3, I think it's a pretty great FL for a walkaround lens. Although I notice having the non L version on my 5D3 really points out the imperfections of the lens, you really need top tier glass with full frame.
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Would you elaborate on this some? You can get more resolution with longer lenses?
With a 36mp camera, 1.2x crop mode produces files with 25mp of resolution and the field of view and DOF is like a 102mm f/1.7 lens.

What I meant was if you were shooting at high ISO where noise is more of an issue, it's better to use a longer lens (e.g. 105 f/2) and make use of the full resolution of the sensor rather than cropping with a shorter lens (e.g. 85 1.4).

And of course with a 105 f/2 on a 36mp camera you'll have more resolution than if you used a 1.2x crop factor with 85mm. 36mp > 25.

I was just trying to point out that the 85 1.4 is quite versatile because under ideal conditions where noise won't be an issue and you don't need more resolution, you could shoot portraits from the same distance and then crop so the subject fills the frame. It will look the same as the 105 f/2 only you're throwing away some pixels.
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That reminds me, on a similar note a lot of people are confused about crop sensors. They think some kind of magical magnification is taking place.

"I shoot on crop for more reach brah."

A 400mm lens on a crop sensor camera is still a 400mm lens. With a 1.5x crop you're simply getting the field of view of a 600mm lens — the edges of the lens are cropped away when the image circle is projected onto a smaller sensor.

It only appears you get "more reach" when the resolution of a crop sensor exceeds that of a full frame sensor after cropping.

So a 24mp D7200 file will look sharper with more fine detail than a 24mp D750 in 1.5x DX crop mode which produces approximately a 10mp file. Ditto for the 36mp D810 which in DX crop produces a 15mp file.

Hope that makes sense.
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50mm is so close enough for portraits if you have 1.4 That bokeh though.

So I just started using backbutton focus only…how many brahs use that strictly?
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50mm is so close enough for portraits if you have 1.4 That bokeh though.

So I just started using backbutton focus only…how many brahs use that strictly?
Once you go back button you never go back, learned that after a few months with my very first DSLR in 2007.

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So I just started using backbutton focus only…how many brahs use that strictly?
Long time and I couldn't imagine going back.

If you shoot sport, action, any kind of moving subject really, it makes sense to decouple the shutter release from focusing. Even if all you shoot are portraits it allows you to focus-recompose with ease.
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With a 36mp camera, 1.2x crop mode produces files with 25mp of resolution and the field of view and DOF is like a 102mm f/1.7 lens.

What I meant was if you were shooting at high ISO where noise is more of an issue, it's better to use a longer lens (e.g. 105 f/2) and make use of the full resolution of the sensor rather than cropping with a shorter lens (e.g. 85 1.4).

And of course with a 105 f/2 on a 36mp camera you'll have more resolution than if you used a 1.2x crop factor with 85mm. 36mp > 25.

I was just trying to point out that the 85 1.4 is quite versatile because under ideal conditions where noise won't be an issue and you don't need more resolution, you could shoot portraits from the same distance and then crop so the subject fills the frame. It will look the same as the 105 f/2 only you're throwing away some pixels.
Ah! Gotcha. I didn't realize you were talking about cropping. I get it now. And yeah, the longer reach on crop sensor thing seems to confuse a lot of people? Or maybe they understand it's just easier to use that kind of language? I've heard well informed photographers use that myth.

What are your thoughts on the 200mm f2? They seem to have a 'pop' to the images similar to medium format. Not exactly, but the separation from the backgrounds, especially full body shots outside, look awesome to my eyes. Found one used in like new condition for $4,500. Thinking about buying it.
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50mm is so close enough for portraits if you have 1.4 That bokeh though.

So I just started using backbutton focus only…how many brahs use that strictly?
I use it when I wanna 'Brenizer' something. So I don't have to flip the camera into manual focus.
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Long time and I couldn't imagine going back.

If you shoot sport, action, any kind of moving subject really, it makes sense to decouple the shutter release from focusing. Even if all you shoot are portraits it allows you to focus-recompose with ease.
Mostly wedding/portrait anymore. Obviously landscape/severe weather are my favorites but they aren't the money makers unfortunately! But I'm still in love with backbutton for recomposing.
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and a vintage photoshoot inspired by 1950s style. Could of been better but it was made up on the spot



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