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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LX: Tyler's guide to concealed carry and dating: man the harpoons!

post 1449478103 06-24-2016, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By LeBoat⏩
what now?
shoot him in the face
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
I would establish if whether they believe it to be morally/ethically justified to use deadly force to defend your life. I would explain some very real/plausible scenarios in which they might find deadly force necessary. If they don't find any of the scenarios necessary, then I just stop there.
Yes. I had a coworker that straight up said a woman locked in her home, when her violent abusive ex-husband for whom she has a restraining order, kicks in the front door and rushes her with a butcher knife saying "I'm going to rape and kill you bitch" is not justified in using a firearm or any other lethal force because "everybody has options and killing somebody is never justified". Some people are just hopeless, worthless excuses for human beings
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and thanks for that link farles, good info. I'll have to read some more on that site.
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post 1449480423 06-24-2016, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
and thanks for that link farles, good info. I'll have to read some more on that site.
Related, I should probably read it again as it's been like a decade now

https://www.amazon.com/Other-Surviva...6789127&sr=8-1
post 1449480703 06-24-2016, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Yes. I had a coworker that straight up said a woman locked in her home, when her violent abusive ex-husband for whom she has a restraining order, kicks in the front door and rushes her with a butcher knife saying "I'm going to rape and kill you bitch" is not justified in using a firearm or any other lethal force because "everybody has options and killing somebody is never justified". Some people are just hopeless, worthless excuses for human beings
Yeah there's no hope for them at that point. But I'd leave this with them, "Ok, that's fine ifyoufeel that is your only recourse, you can do what you want. But you wanting to legislate gun-control laws forceseveryoneto have that same recourse." Then I'd have them clarify if they just personally feel that they couldn't kill, or if they think that literally no one should be able to defend themselves.

I'd also ask:

"So you think that when Nazi Germany invades Poland in 1939, the Polish people have no recourse. They should just let Nazis kill them?"

I've had these conversations with people that I care about and also with work acquaintances. The ones that I have a good rapport with to where I could get more "real" with them and talk about some more macabre topics...

I explain to them that there is no physical law of the universe which prevents me from taking what belongs to you. I have free will to make that decision if I choose to. I then point at their cell phone and say "Okay, that belongs to me now. What are you going to do about it?"

I make the point that real life isn't a video game where it's impossible to shoot/kill certain non player characters, where there are (coded) laws that prevent people from doing something or force others to do something. Humans have free will.

Then I go on to explain that our society has decided that "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" is an important thing. The concept of "property" is also an important thing. There are no laws of the universe which guarantee this, so we establish a government and set of ideas to protect it. The use, or implied threat, of deadly force is necessary to uphold this.

EDIT:

I think that the people who think that lethal force is never justified, in fact just do not feel that they are capable of using lethal force and therefore no one should be able to. By "capable", that could mean whether they're emotionally/mentally capable, or physically capable.
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I had a pretty in depth conversation with my friend about gun laws and ARs specifically on our road trip. Brought up all the points about how low rifle deaths really are, rifles are more effective for defense, etc, etc...

He still just keeps saying "they aren't necessary, I don't see why you can't just use a pistol" SMH

We get to talking about confiscation and banning them altogether. I try saying that won't happen but he's convinced it will and "even if it takes 100+ years" things will change and they will get all the rifles eventually. I talk about the fact that there are people who will die to keep their guns.. "they are stupid and wrong, the gov. will just kill them."

I mention that they will come after other things once they get the rifles... "the slippery slope argument is invalid, we learned that in (insert random college course)"

I just dropped it after that.
Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
LOL . . . the bottom sure fell out on Alien Gear quickly.
MFC kept saying it was g2g so I buy the package deal and they both suck ass. Negged whole thread.
Originally Posted By DualRectifier⏩
I hate this state. My AR is sitting at FFL but I can't pick it up because I moved a week ago and I don't have my updated license yet. I have to wait until I get my new license, go to the fukking sheriff's office, show it to them, and fill out a change of address in person. Only then, when both my concealed permit and drivers license match my permanent address, can I pick up the fukking gun.

May be the same in other states, I just think it sucks. And I've got two more guns coming in the next week.
I had a really odd experience with something similar to this.
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post 1449482423 06-24-2016, 11:39 AM
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Strong friend logic. Is he from OR or CA?

That's "it's true because I learned it in college" reminds me of a 'conversation' I had in a class with a liberal arts professor who told the class that the single most efficient and effective form of government is the benevolent dictator...this in response to the idea that 'democracy' is overrated.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Yes. I had a coworker that straight up said a woman locked in her home, when her violent abusive ex-husband for whom she has a restraining order, kicks in the front door and rushes her with a butcher knife saying "I'm going to rape and kill you bitch" is not justified in using a firearm or any other lethal force because "everybody has options and killing somebody is never justified". Some people are just hopeless, worthless excuses for human beings
There's no helping those people. I have heard/read people commenting in various sources that they would rather die than take someone else's life. That's their choice, certainly, but phukk that mentality. If it's me or them---tough luck for them.
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post 1449483053 06-24-2016, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
There's no helping those people. I have heard/read people commenting in various sources that they would rather die than take someone else's life. That's their choice, certainly, but phukk that mentality. If it's me or them---tough luck for them.
Yeah, and as pointed out by millz, the REAL problem is when they try to force that situation onto other people via laws...and of course they will send men with guns to take away your guns because nobody should have guns. Nevermind the astronomical irony of that process, let's at least have the people who want to take other people's guns volunteer to be the ones to do it.
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Sounds like I made a good choice not wasting any $ on a college edumacation. I ain't no college boy.
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Originally Posted By jason_bh⏩
I use an AG 3.0. Mine has been flawless. Highly recommend it.
This. I use mine a few times a week and no issues. Maybe those who don't like them got a lemon or just became too fat to properly use them


What don't you guys like about your alien gears?
post 1449485323 06-24-2016, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
single most efficient and effective form of government is the benevolent dictator
They don't exactly have anyone to stand in their way, maybe I missed something.
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post 1449487383 06-24-2016, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Millz⏩
Also regarding "it costs society" it'd be difficult to not argue in support of anarchism there, "screw you and you wanting to control how I defend myself. Keep to yourself *******."
Bottom line, i think this reason alone should be sufficient. Everything else we gun owners come up with is just to reason with the unreasonable, crazy anti-gunners
Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
shoot him in the face
I couldn't have said it better myself. Such eloquence.
Originally Posted By GingerBrah84⏩
*snipped semi-retard conversation*
I have friends like this. I use them to refine my trolling skills.

They get mad. oh so mad.
Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
This. I use mine a few times a week and no issues. Maybe those who don't like them got a lemon or just became too fat to properly use them

What don't you guys like about your alien gears?
The backing is too soft so the opening closes up and prevents me from reholstering. When I do reholster (I pull pack the kydex with my left hand), the rubber backing tears/scratches/rips from either the front serrations or the front sight of my TRP.
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post 1449487763 06-24-2016, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By BULL1980⏩
They don't exactly have anyone to stand in their way, maybe I missed something.
There's the conundrum. Because of the above, there has been no true examples of a benevolent dictator.
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Originally Posted By LeBoat⏩
There's the conundrum. Because of the above, there has been no true examples of a benevolent dictator.
Exactly, benevolent being the key word.

Vote for me Leboat, I'll turn this **** around in 3 months.
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post 1449488843 06-24-2016, 12:15 PM
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People generally have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that there are people out there that are looking to hurt them. Maybe or maybe not them in particular, but anyone. They don't understand that criminals are simply a different breed of people that are more than okay with causing the victim mental and/or physical pain or death to get what they want. It's just a hard truth to accept that we live in such a world - you can either adapt to it or perish, up to you.
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I use my OWB AG holster often, no issues. I've only used my IWB AG holster a few times and never had any issues either. I dunno
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post 1449490403 06-24-2016, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted By BULL1980⏩
Exactly, benevolent being the key word.

Vote for me Leboat, I'll turn this **** around in 3 months.
you have my vote. i will follow you across the valley of the buttcrack of death, through the darkest of buttholes.
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Originally Posted By DualRectifier⏩
It's 2016. I wouldn't be very welcoming of a door-to-door salesman whether he had good intentions or not. Had to slam the door on some fuking jehovah witnesses a couple months ago.
Reminded me of a joke my GF made on ******** about that around Halloween.
"No thanks, guys. I just watched The Purge- no damn way am I opening the good for teenagers in masks."
"Evidently Mr. Ringo's an educated man. Now I really hate him."
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Originally Posted By velocityrob⏩
Reminded me of a joke my GF made on ******** about that around Halloween.
"No thanks, guys. I just watched The Purge- no damn way am I opening the good for teenagers in masks."
teenagers still go trick or treating? I stopped that shiit when I was like 8-10

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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Strong friend logic. Is he from OR or CA?

That's "it's true because I learned it in college" reminds me of a 'conversation' I had in a class with a liberal arts professor who told the class that the single most efficient and effective form of government is the benevolent dictator...this in response to the idea that 'democracy' is overrated.
OR born and raised. His dad and mom/step dad are all into guns too lol. His dad has an AR or two and I talked about ARs for a while one night with his step dad and he bought one shortly after lol

He also told me he'd vote Hillary over Trump
Originally Posted By OrificeSpunk⏩
This. I use mine a few times a week and no issues. Maybe those who don't like them got a lemon or just became too fat to properly use them


What don't you guys like about your alien gears?
Same thing Boat said. Plus the fact that it feels cheap all around (inb4 it is) and not very comfortable imo.
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Originally Posted By Sp3cialK⏩
Lol at banana talking about in Mfc in the burn pit. Cheeky inside references.
dis guy knows

i just saw the perfect opportunity to put them in there and got it. my dad was not even aware.

speaking of which, how was the audio for you on this last one? my dads been working on his house nonstop the last week so episodes have been slow to come out.
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Originally Posted By GingerBrah84⏩
OR born and raised. His dad and mom/step dad are all into guns too lol. His dad has an AR or two and I talked about ARs for a while one night with his step dad and he bought one shortly after lol

He also told me he'd vote Hillary over Trump



Same thing Boat said. Plus the fact that it feels cheap all around (inb4 it is) and not very comfortable imo.
So he's a ******* neckbeard.
Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
shoot him in the face
With a nice hot load of...

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The Burn Pit podcasts available for download? I see some sites that are linking the play option but no download. I don't pay attention too often.
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Funny story:

At work we're having a big department meeting. We're going over tedious things that shouldn't have to be said. The director of our department is reminding people to be mindful of how long and when they take breaks.

Someone asks, "Well what if we have to use the restroom?"

Director, "You guys can govern yourselves, use the restroom when you need to. We don't want anyone to have any accidents on the carpet."

Small laughter from the department.

My buddy whom is notorious for asking cheeky questions raises his hand and asks, "What if they're not accidents?"

I started laughing so hard at that, no one else is laughing. LMAO at the thought of someone intentionally ****ting on the carpet.

Director bert stares him then moves on.
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Welp . . . 2 out of 2 insurance-recommended roofers spent about the same amount of time looking and the roof needs to be replaced after that hail storm from hell we had. Was pretty sure that was going to be the case, but you never know. The last guy went up for about 5 mins today and came back down, said, "most of the roofs I've been on in this area had the standard shingles and they were trashed, but yours is the worst I've have seen with the impact resistant ones". Said it's not in danger of leaking, but it's bad enough to where it needs to be redone. I'm going to go with a different brand of shingle this time, I think.

Guess I'll be shelling out another deductible 3 years into it.
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Originally Posted By LeBoat⏩
The Burn Pit podcasts available for download? I see some sites that are linking the play option but no download. I don't pay attention too often.
http://theburnpit.libsyn.com/or on iTunes/apple's podcast app just search "The Burn Pit"

website's coming out soon, pretty much just going to be a repository for writing from me and my dad. we'll link to it on our ********
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Originally Posted By GingerBrah84⏩
Phone is dead all day. Sit down to chit and it rings twice within 2-3 minutes. Brb talking quiet so my voice doesn't echo in the stall.



Listen to this man.
feels.
If what I've posted offends you, please feel free to leave your need for validation below.


dont put words in my mouth either you stupid little sh_t
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