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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LX: Tyler's guide to concealed carry and dating: man the harpoons!

post 1449459453 06-24-2016, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Any of you daily carry guys use an AlienGear Cloak Tuck 3.0 IWB? Haven't been a fan of my current one for my Glock .23 and I've been looking for something affordable/comfortable.
I have one for my USP, but don't use it. Honestly, I think it's more because of the size of the USP than it is the holster. Haven't had a chance to use one with a more reasonable sized carry pistol.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
It sounds like she doesn't know what a process predator is, and doesn't understand what can and does happen in some home invasions.

There is something wrong with:

1) The guy going into the garage
2) The guy coming back and knocking on the door later after already being told to leave, and leave now.
3) Not taking extra precautions after 1&2. Generally when people get freaked out by somebody, it's for a reason. Trust your gut (and in this case there are easily quantified reasons to be extra weary of the guy anyway)



They are cheap. Not inexpensive, cheap. *I never bought or used one* but I see plenty of reviews and feedback on holsters and am happy to have never spent money with aliengear.
No kidding. When the guy came back, she had armed herself. Same thing happened to a girl here in Norman when I was in high school. It didn't work out so well for her.
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
yesterday afternoon, my wife ran outside to pull her truck into the garage and took our daughter with her. This door to door salesman just walked into the garage and tried to roll the sales pitch on her. She kind of freaked out and told him to leave, and leave now. She told me the guy really creeped her out. So about an hour later, the guy knocks on the door. She didn't answer. When she went out to move the truck, she left her gun in the safe... Because what could happen in the driveway?
So the dude enters the garage and was told to leave . . . and then came back. That's Grade-A azzhat.

My wife NEVER carries--makes me a little vexed. Especially when she works in an area that can be a little sketchy if she's there late. I keep nudging her to give it a try . . . she's never carried once.
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
So the dude enters the garage and was told to leave . . . and then came back. That's Grade-A azzhat.

My wife NEVER carries--makes me a little vexed. Especially when she works in an area that can be a little sketchy if she's there late. I keep nudging her to give it a try . . . she's never carried once.
Stubborn Latina. Think they can look at some dude, say 'don't you know I'm loco' and they'll be left alone.
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http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...l?intcmp=hpbt4

Kelly McGillis said she plans to apply for a concealed carry gun permit after she was assaulted by an intruder in her North Carolina home Friday, June 17. The actress, who is best known for playing Charlotte "Charlie" Blackwood in "Top Gun," recalled the scary incident in a recent ******** post.

"Upon entering the house I notice a pair of girls pink sandals and a black larger pair," McGillis wrote. At first, she thought it her daughter might be home and she called out several times for her.

"[But then] a stranger, a woman, came barreling down the hallway and began yelling at me. I asked her who she is and why she was in my house and she said 'you know why you've been stalking me in Twitter.' Not true."

The 58-year-old wrote that she keeps guns and ammunition in her home and was concerned one of the intruders had gotten a hold of them.
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It's 2016. I wouldn't be very welcoming of a door-to-door salesman whether he had good intentions or not. Had to slam the door on some fuking jehovah witnesses a couple months ago.
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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
Stubborn Latina. Think they can look at some dude, say 'don't you know I'm loco' and they'll be left alone.
That does work sometimes . . . lezbehonest.

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Originally Posted By PapaBurgandy⏩
Stubborn Latina. Think they can look at some dude, say 'don't you know I'm loco' and they'll be left alone.
Just have her play some Cypress Hill when she comes in contact with any sketchy people like that. They'll get the message.
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
It sounds like she doesn't know what a process predator is, and doesn't understand what can and does happen in some home invasions.

There is something wrong with:

1) The guy going into the garage
2) The guy coming back and knocking on the door later after already being told to leave, and leave now.
3) Not taking extra precautions after 1&2. Generally when people get freaked out by somebody, it's for a reason. Trust your gut (and in this case there are easily quantified reasons to be extra weary of the guy anyway)



They are cheap. Not inexpensive, cheap. *I never bought or used one* but I see plenty of reviews and feedback on holsters and am happy to have never spent money with aliengear.
underwear me on a process predator?
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Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
Just have her play some Cypress Hill when she comes in contact with any sketchy people like that. They'll get the message.
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...l?intcmp=hpbt4

Kelly McGillis said she plans to apply for a concealed carry gun permit after she was assaulted by an intruder in her North Carolina home Friday, June 17. The actress, who is best known for playing Charlotte "Charlie" Blackwood in "Top Gun," recalled the scary incident in a recent ******** post.

"Upon entering the house I notice a pair of girls pink sandals and a black larger pair," McGillis wrote. At first, she thought it her daughter might be home and she called out several times for her.

"[But then] a stranger, a woman, came barreling down the hallway and began yelling at me. I asked her who she is and why she was in my house and she said 'you know why you've been stalking me in Twitter.' Not true."

The 58-year-old wrote that she keeps guns and ammunition in her home and was concerned one of the intruders had gotten a hold of them.
huh, til that charlie's last name was Blackwood
post 1449463753 06-24-2016, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
underwear me on a process predator?
Resource vs process. One wants stuff (money, guns, jewelry, valuables) and may or may not harm or kill in order to get that stuff...the other enjoys hurting and/or killing other people, doesn't care what stuff you have or offer or forfeit, they want you. They are the ones who will kidnap a person or persons and take them to a second crime scene, or invade a location where they can be alone with the victim(s), such as the home. They are the real monsters you sometimes hear or read about, like the two guys in CT that tied the ~12 or however old girl to the bed to rape and abuse her then burn everything and everyone down (IIRC they killed both pre teen girls and the mother in that one)...or beat/stab the elderly to death just because they can...or the guy in PA who held three women prisoner and raped and tortured them for weeks/months until one escaped to tell authorities (the captor even had police come to his home over a smell he claimed was a burnt roast when it was actually him cooking up the remains of a woman who died/he killed during this). Or the hi-fi murders way back when, making people drink drano just-because, or the group of aspiring rappers in TN who raped and abused the nice young couple and then left one tied up to suffocate in the trash and hog tied the other to the railroad tracks, after gang raping and penetrating with table legs and trying to erase DNA evidence by pouring bleach in all the orifices of the victims afterwards


A guy who enters the garage in that scenario and freaks her out and THEN comes back an hour later jumps to the top of the list as being a suspected psychopath not to be allowed anywhere near you or family, ever. That's just not right behavior, a normal person would be smart enough not to come back even if they were stupid enough to go into the garage to begin with
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Resource vs process. One wants stuff (money, guns, jewelry, valuables) and may or may not harm or kill in order to get that stuff...the other enjoys hurting and/or killing other people, doesn't care what stuff you have or offer or forfeit, they want you. They are the ones who will kidnap a person or persons and take them to a second crime scene, or invade a location where they can be alone with the victim(s), such as the home. They are the real monsters you sometimes hear or read about, like the two guys in CT that tied the ~12 or however old girl to the bed to rape and abuse her then burn everything and everyone down (IIRC they killed both pre teen girls and the mother in that one)...or beat/stab the elderly to death just because they can...or the guy in PA who held three women prisoner and raped and tortured them for weeks/months until one escaped to tell authorities (the captor even had police come to his home over a smell he claimed was a burnt roast when it was actually him cooking up the remains of a woman who died/he killed during this). Or the hi-fi murders way back when, making people drink drano just-because, or the group of aspiring rappers in TN who raped and abused the nice young couple and then left one tied up to suffocate in the trash and hog tied the other to the railroad tracks, after gang raping and penetrating with table legs and trying to erase DNA evidence by pouring bleach in all the orifices of the victims afterwards


A guy who enters the garage in that scenario and freaks her out and THEN comes back an hour later jumps to the top of the list as being a suspected psychopath not to be allowed anywhere near you or family, ever. That's just not right behavior, a normal person would be smart enough not to come back even if they were stupid enough to go into the garage to begin with
I've used those exact stories to explain to the dumbasses who ask me why I need a gun.

Their response is, "That's such a small chance something like that would happen."

"I wonder if that's what those people were thinking as they were dying?"

Makes me rage
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BTW, you guys may want to read this. I looked it up after tyler's question above. It has some stats/facts in it that I would post but, well, you'll see what I mean

http://ccwvslaw.org/item/1617
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser⏩
I have one for my USP, but don't use it. Honestly, I think it's more because of the size of the USP than it is the holster. Haven't had a chance to use one with a more reasonable sized carry pistol.
USP is a decent sized weapon to carry for sure. Does it feel comfortable? aside form being bulky
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Any of you daily carry guys use an AlienGear Cloak Tuck 3.0 IWB? Haven't been a fan of my current one for my Glock .23 and I've been looking for something affordable/comfortable.
AlienGear can suck my dink and the cloak tuck 3.0 is a pos as far as I'm concerned.
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Originally Posted By LeBoat⏩
I've used those exact stories to explain to the dumbasses who ask me why I need a gun.

Their response is, "That's such a small chance something like that would happen."

"I wonder if that's what those people were thinking as they were dying?"

Makes me rage
That girl from last night was exactly like that. UGH YOU DONT NEED A GUN 24/7. NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN. CRIMINALS ARE JUST GOOD PEOPLE IN A BAD PART OF THEIR LIFE.

yh, I bet the 3k victims on 9/11 thought nothing was gonna happen that morning either. or the 50 dead in Orlando. I don't understand how people can willingly live in such naivety.

Also, friend of mine broke his leg during MCT and was recycled to a new platoon. Yesterday he was NJPd for being 10 minutes late for an athletic trainer appointment, idk if he got 45/45 or loss of rank. I feel for him but I lold.
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Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
CRIMINALS ARE JUST GOOD PEOPLE IN A BAD PART OF THEIR LIFE.
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Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
yh, I bet the 3k victims on 9/11 thought nothing was gonna happen that morning either. or the 50 dead in Orlando. I don't understand how people can willingly live in such naivety.
i dont think carrying would have helped anyone at the WTC, unless they played a lot of BF4 and could 360 no scope a pilot out of their cockpit
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Originally Posted By GingerBrah84⏩
AlienGear can suck my dink and the cloak tuck 3.0 is a pos as far as I'm concerned.
this. Do not go with Aliengear.
Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
That girl from last night was exactly like that.UGH YOU DONT NEED A GUN 24/7. NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN. CRIMINALS ARE JUST GOOD PEOPLE IN A BAD PART OF THEIR LIFE.

yh, I bet the 3k victims on 9/11 thought nothing was gonna happen that morning either. or the 50 dead in Orlando. I don't understand how people can willingly live in such naivety.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
USP is a decent sized weapon to carry for sure. Does it feel comfortable? aside form being bulky
It was my first holster, so unfortunately I can't give a really good answer as to how it compares or what a holster is supposed to feel like. With zero experience otherwise, it seems like it should be fine. My main issue was that I couldn't find a position with the USP where it wasn't simultaneously rubbing my back raw and poking into the top of my ass cheek. I now have a Comp-Tac that I carry an XD9 sub compact in. It's obviously much easier to deal with, but it's also significantly smaller. Not that the leather backing of the Comp-Tac is necessarily uncomfortable, but I have to imagine the neoprene backing of the Alien Gear would feel better, especially on those hot summer days, if I had one for the more reasonable sized gun.


But then everyone else, who likely have more experience with various holsters than me, seem to not care for them.
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this. Do not go with Aliengear.
Listen to this man.
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LOL . . . the bottom sure fell out on Alien Gear quickly.
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
LOL . . . the bottom sure fell out on Alien Gear quickly.
Over the years I have noticed that happen a lot with the "I want something good but don't want to spend good money" companies and products. Everybody wants to be cheap, everybody wants to spend half as much money and get just as much for it...doesn't usually work out that way. Sure some people will convince themselves (largely by trying to convince others) that whatever they spent less on is "as good as", but the truth comes out as more people get whatever it is and the miles start racking up
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Any of you daily carry guys use an AlienGear Cloak Tuck 3.0 IWB? Haven't been a fan of my current one for my Glock .23 and I've been looking for something affordable/comfortable.
I use an AG 3.0. Mine has been flawless. Highly recommend it.
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I hate this state. My AR is sitting at FFL but I can't pick it up because I moved a week ago and I don't have my updated license yet. I have to wait until I get my new license, go to the fukking sheriff's office, show it to them, and fill out a change of address in person. Only then, when both my concealed permit and drivers license match my permanent address, can I pick up the fukking gun.

May be the same in other states, I just think it sucks. And I've got two more guns coming in the next week.
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When people ask me "Y U HEFF TO CARRY GUN?" this is the cliff notes of what I explain to them:

What does it cost me to carry a gun?

- It costs a bit of physical comfort. It's not entirely uncomfortable, but it's less comfortable than not carrying.
- It costs the USD$ it takes to purchase the firearm and other gear
- Ammo
- Training
- Time

That's really all it costs me. What is the return on that investment?

Guaranteed:
- Fun/entertainment/hobby aspect and all that comes along with that: friends, mental health, physical health, etc

My ROI is very damn well worth it on that part of the return alone. There are more expensive and less practical hobbies.

Potential return:
- Could save my life, loved ones' lives, or other people's lives.

The ROI on that is literally priceless.

I compare it to similar reasons why anyone would learn a martial art (BJJ/boxing/etc), "operating" is a martial art. IMO firearms aren't a costly investment, they have a guaranteed ROI that is well worth it to me. The potential ROI is priceless.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
BTW, you guys may want to read this. I looked it up after tyler's question above. It has some stats/facts in it that I would post but, well, you'll see what I mean

http://ccwvslaw.org/item/1617
Good read. will be trolling ******** later with this
Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
LOL . . . the bottom sure fell out on Alien Gear quickly.
got one for my TRP and it is just not cooperating well. the backing is too soft.
Originally Posted By Millz⏩
When people ask me "Y U HEFF TO CARRY GUN?" this is the cliff notes of what I explain to them:

What does it cost me to carry a gun?

- It costs a bit of physical comfort. It's not entirely uncomfortable, but it's less comfortable than not carrying.
- It costs the USD$ it takes to purchase the firearm and other gear
- Ammo
- Training
- Time

That's really all it costs me. What is the return on that investment?

Guaranteed:
- Fun/entertainment/hobby aspect and all that comes along with that: friends, mental health, physical health, etc

My ROI is very damn well worth it on that part of the return alone. There are more expensive and less practical hobbies.

Potential return:
- Could save my life, loved ones' lives, or other people's lives.

The ROI on that is literally priceless.

I compare it to similar reasons why anyone would learn a martial art (BJJ/boxing/etc), "operating" is a martial art. IMO firearms aren't a costly investment, they have a guaranteed ROI that is well worth it to me. The potential ROI is priceless.
Nice, logical approach. A logical person would be like, "oh nice that makes sense."

Anti-Gunner's response would be: "BUT YOUR GUN IS MEANT TO ONLY KILL PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. WHY DO YOU NEED TO KILL PEOPLE? OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE? YOU HAVE A SMALL DIK."

what now?
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Originally Posted By LeBoat⏩
Nice, logical approach. A logical person would be like, "oh nice that makes sense."

Anti-Gunner's response would be: "BUT YOUR GUN IS MEANT TO ONLY KILL PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. WHY DO YOU NEED TO KILL PEOPLE? OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE? YOU HAVE A SMALL DIK."

what now?
I would establish if whether they believe it to be morally/ethically justified to use deadly force to defend your life. I would explain some very real/plausible scenarios in which they might find deadly force necessary. If they don't find any of the scenarios necessary, then I just stop there.

If they do, then I explain "Yes, firearms' purpose is to kill but as we have just discussed, there are cases where using a firearm to kill another human is necessary."

Then they'd probably counter with examples of (unjustified) murder with firearms and argue that should be factored into "what does it cost me to carry a firearm?". They'd argue that it costs society as a whole.

Then I'd counter with actual statistics to show that the cost really isn't that high. Then I'd argue the benefits (personal defense, tyranny safeguard) of society being able to possess firearms and that these outweigh the costs.

Also regarding "it costs society" it'd be difficult to not argue in support of anarchism there, "screw you and you wanting to control how I defend myself. Keep to yourself *******."
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