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If you take lifting seriously and you’re not lean, why the fuk aren’t you?
12-13-2018, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
You're talking to a 50 year old man that comes to a forum of 20 somethings to brag about his sexual conquestsI don’t know what my test is. What I do know is I train my fukin balls off twice a day and apologize for none of it. You’re on a bodybuilding forum and sharing progress or videos is not flaunting.
You’re placing your words in a way that are attempting to discredit the hobby that some do based on your moral positioning and it’s silly.
I know a guy irl that acts like this who is on a prescription and acts above people and it’s hilarious. That must be why he’s still stuck on a 400 squat at 10 years younger than me.
You’re placing your words in a way that are attempting to discredit the hobby that some do based on your moral positioning and it’s silly.
I know a guy irl that acts like this who is on a prescription and acts above people and it’s hilarious. That must be why he’s still stuck on a 400 squat at 10 years younger than me.
Enough said
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12-13-2018, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Fair point. Back to work.You're talking to a 50 year old man that comes to a forum of 20 somethings to brag about his sexual conquests
Enough said
Enough said
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12-13-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
You're overlooking the most common one. The overwhelming majorityA lot of tech talk in this thread, and at the risk of a ban since it's supposed to be Shh-Shh on that stuff,
There are two types of techies:
1. The usual type: the guys using it to get a shortcut. They don't want to take the time to figure out lifting, they want it All and they want it Now. They techup, it works, they get swole -- and eventually they almost always shrink when off.
2. The guys who tech to take themselves to the next level. More of a rarity, but some guys learn and hit something to their natural limit and use tech to take them further.
... personally, I don't care either way, it's not my life and I got my own worries to keep myself occupied, but while I don't particularly respect type 1 techies and I'm not especially interested in their opinions on training or bragging about themselves, I would not lump them with the type 2 types.
If a guy is a big strong guy who can maintain their gains, who learned how to train and diet before or at some point, tech or not they know their stuff. Really, they have a deeper and better understanding than I ever will, they know how to gain under normal situations, they understand tech intimately and they have a personal understanding of how to keep that ball rolling.
There are two types of techies:
1. The usual type: the guys using it to get a shortcut. They don't want to take the time to figure out lifting, they want it All and they want it Now. They techup, it works, they get swole -- and eventually they almost always shrink when off.
2. The guys who tech to take themselves to the next level. More of a rarity, but some guys learn and hit something to their natural limit and use tech to take them further.
... personally, I don't care either way, it's not my life and I got my own worries to keep myself occupied, but while I don't particularly respect type 1 techies and I'm not especially interested in their opinions on training or bragging about themselves, I would not lump them with the type 2 types.
If a guy is a big strong guy who can maintain their gains, who learned how to train and diet before or at some point, tech or not they know their stuff. Really, they have a deeper and better understanding than I ever will, they know how to gain under normal situations, they understand tech intimately and they have a personal understanding of how to keep that ball rolling.
3. The guy that does it and somehow ends up looking worse than when he started while spreading absolute rubbish advice as if he had any clue.
Those people make up at least 85% of the culture
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12-13-2018, 02:43 PM
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I'm trying to take lifting and eating right serious, but it ain't easy. Started going to the gym last week, going after work is the last thing on your mind.
As for eating, sht happens. You eat good for 2-3 days, boom your office gets tons of Christmas treats. You go back to eating good for 2 days, boom your grandmother's birthday and everyone is eating Beggar's pizza.
I will say, I really need to go shopping. I think Once I do that I should be ok. A miscer already awared me on Rotisserie chicken, gonna figure out where to start buying that.
As for eating, sht happens. You eat good for 2-3 days, boom your office gets tons of Christmas treats. You go back to eating good for 2 days, boom your grandmother's birthday and everyone is eating Beggar's pizza.
I will say, I really need to go shopping. I think Once I do that I should be ok. A miscer already awared me on Rotisserie chicken, gonna figure out where to start buying that.
12-13-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
You've never had labs drawn?I don’t know what my test is. What I do know is I train my fukin balls off twice a day and apologize for none of it. You’re on a bodybuilding forum and sharing progress or videos is not flaunting.
You’re placing your words in a way that are attempting to discredit the hobby that some do based on your moral positioning and it’s silly.
I know a guy irl that acts like this who is on a prescription and acts above people and it’s hilarious. That must be why he’s still stuck on a 400 squat at 10 years younger than me.
You’re placing your words in a way that are attempting to discredit the hobby that some do based on your moral positioning and it’s silly.
I know a guy irl that acts like this who is on a prescription and acts above people and it’s hilarious. That must be why he’s still stuck on a 400 squat at 10 years younger than me.
Look I didn't say it makes someone immoral.
I liken it to someone who takes the carburetor off a nascar and ads fuel injection and wins a race.
He's dramatically unevened the playing field is all.
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12-13-2018, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Nobody looks worse than when they started from cell tech.You're overlooking the most common one. The overwhelming majority
3. The guy that does it and somehow ends up looking worse than when he started while spreading absolute rubbish advice as if he had any clue.
Those people make up at least 85% of the culture
3. The guy that does it and somehow ends up looking worse than when he started while spreading absolute rubbish advice as if he had any clue.
Those people make up at least 85% of the culture
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12-13-2018, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
That's not the point of those threads and you damn well know it.You're talking to a 50 year old man that comes to a forum of 20 somethings to brag about his sexual conquests
Enough said
Enough said
Those threads are to eliminate all these guys excuses as to why they can't get laid.
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12-13-2018, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
lol wut you’re telling me you gained 52 lbs in the span of your lifetime and only gained 1% bf? even guys on tech don’t do that lmfaoI've been 13 or 14% but no visible abs at 168 and I've been 220 at 15% no abs.
But yeah I've been around long enough to see what guys could do on and off OJ
But yeah I've been around long enough to see what guys could do on and off OJ
ive seen what you considered “lean”. ur not anywhere near 15% anywhere SRS
Originally Posted By arn710⏩
I feel like I know the miscer you’re talking about but I won’t name him since I’m ok with him lmaoYou're overlooking the most common one. The overwhelming majority
3. The guy that does it and somehow ends up looking worse than when he started while spreading absolute rubbish advice as if he had any clue.
Those people make up at least 85% of the culture
3. The guy that does it and somehow ends up looking worse than when he started while spreading absolute rubbish advice as if he had any clue.
Those people make up at least 85% of the culture
srs, the tech hate on here is laughable. I really despise the guys that use being natty as an excuse to be fking subpar.
The reality is the natural guy is probably not tracking his food to a T, half asses his workout, and parties it up while coping meanwhile the guy on tech (that didn’t use it as a shortcut) is training his ass off twice a day, tracking his progress diligently, and surrounds a large part of his life with the gym.
with that being said, im only 5 ft 8 170 so i don’t have room to talk compared to most of you fukers so inb4 someone discredits me via a quote and lists my stats
12-13-2018, 02:54 PM
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12-13-2018, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I didn’t know I was in a competition with someone...You've never had labs drawn?
Look I didn't say it makes someone immoral.
I liken it to someone who takes the carburetor off a nascar and ads fuel injection and wins a race.
He's dramatically unevened the playing field is all.
Look I didn't say it makes someone immoral.
I liken it to someone who takes the carburetor off a nascar and ads fuel injection and wins a race.
He's dramatically unevened the playing field is all.
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12-13-2018, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
I really couldn't care less if you believe me or not. I've seen it more times than I care to admitNobody looks worse than when they started from cell tech.
Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
Like I said, I don't go in them and tell you how to do your thingThat's not the point of those threads and you damn well know it.
Those threads are to eliminate all these guys excuses as to why they can't get laid.
Those threads are to eliminate all these guys excuses as to why they can't get laid.
Stay in your lane
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12-13-2018, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
You watchout your comments, he benched 405lbs before you had pubes.I’m sorry you think that I’m someone seeking your credit/approval when I take what’s given to you by a doctor.
I guess I’ll stop lifting because a guy online doesn’t approve.
I guess I’ll stop lifting because a guy online doesn’t approve.
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12-13-2018, 03:06 PM
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12-13-2018, 03:08 PM
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12-13-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By MichaelDuong⏩
Lol 5'8 and 170lol wut you’re telling me you gained 52 lbs in the span of your lifetime and only gained 1% bf? even guys on tech don’t do that lmfao
ive seen what you considered “lean”. ur not anywhere near 15% anywhere SRS
I feel like I know the miscer you’re talking about but I won’t name him since I’m ok with him lmao
srs, the tech hate on here is laughable. I really despise the guys that use being natty as an excuse to be fking subpar.
The reality is the natural guy is probably not tracking his food to a T, half asses his workout, and parties it up while coping meanwhile the guy on tech (that didn’t use it as a shortcut) is training his ass off twice a day, tracking his progress diligently, and surrounds a large part of his life with the gym.
with that being said, im only 5 ft 8 170 so i don’t have room to talk compared to most of you fukers so inb4 someone discredits me via a quote and lists my stats
ive seen what you considered “lean”. ur not anywhere near 15% anywhere SRS
I feel like I know the miscer you’re talking about but I won’t name him since I’m ok with him lmao
srs, the tech hate on here is laughable. I really despise the guys that use being natty as an excuse to be fking subpar.
The reality is the natural guy is probably not tracking his food to a T, half asses his workout, and parties it up while coping meanwhile the guy on tech (that didn’t use it as a shortcut) is training his ass off twice a day, tracking his progress diligently, and surrounds a large part of his life with the gym.
with that being said, im only 5 ft 8 170 so i don’t have room to talk compared to most of you fukers so inb4 someone discredits me via a quote and lists my stats
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12-13-2018, 03:20 PM
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12-13-2018, 03:21 PM
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being super lean as a natty sucks. 12% is the best BF for natties
12-13-2018, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By MichaelDuong⏩
No I played college football at 220. After that I joined the Air Force and was forced to drop to 193 quickly.lol wut you’re telling me you gained 52 lbs in the span of your lifetime and only gained 1% bf? even guys on tech don’t do that lmfao
ive seen what you considered “lean”. ur not anywhere near 15% anywhere SRS
I feel like I know the miscer you’re talking about but I won’t name him since I’m ok with him lmao
srs, the tech hate on here is laughable. I really despise the guys that use being natty as an excuse to be fking subpar.
The reality is the natural guy is probably not tracking his food to a T, half asses his workout, and parties it up while coping meanwhile the guy on tech (that didn’t use it as a shortcut) is training his ass off twice a day, tracking his progress diligently, and surrounds a large part of his life with the gym.
with that being said, im only 5 ft 8 170 so i don’t have room to talk compared to most of you fukers so inb4 someone discredits me via a quote and lists my stats
ive seen what you considered “lean”. ur not anywhere near 15% anywhere SRS
I feel like I know the miscer you’re talking about but I won’t name him since I’m ok with him lmao
srs, the tech hate on here is laughable. I really despise the guys that use being natty as an excuse to be fking subpar.
The reality is the natural guy is probably not tracking his food to a T, half asses his workout, and parties it up while coping meanwhile the guy on tech (that didn’t use it as a shortcut) is training his ass off twice a day, tracking his progress diligently, and surrounds a large part of his life with the gym.
with that being said, im only 5 ft 8 170 so i don’t have room to talk compared to most of you fukers so inb4 someone discredits me via a quote and lists my stats
While in the air force I tried to get abs for the first time doing a program called Cybergenix.
A former Mr Hawaii ran the base gym and would help us.
I went from 193 to 168.
I got out came back to the states slowly got out of the gym but had a physical job. Got away from that job at 217 and ballooned up to 257 early in my marriage.
This is the God awful mess I was about 2002 or 03 then years removed from the gym.

At 40 I was divorced and they thought I had ALS fortunately I have a much milder neuromuscular disorder that makes things a challenge at times.
This is the start of my new cut

I'll get as low as I can I'd guess my floor is 15%
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12-13-2018, 03:24 PM
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Btw:
Bobby and Arn seem like good examples of what this thread is actually about.
From what I gather they’re both reasonably lean now where no one in their right mind could call them fat or “soft” and they’re both strong as fuk with an emphasis on powerlifting. While they’re chasing strength, they’re not fooling themselves by adding unnecessary amounts of fat just to move a couple extra pounds.
Whatever their supplementation happens to be is mostly irrelevant, they’d both still be nearly the same versions of themselves without it but to a slightly lower degree.
Our genetics may give us different upper limits on strength and size but they certainly don’t doom you to be fat all your life and incapable of maintaining a nice, reasonably aesthetic bf% while still being able to chase down some of those strength or size goals.
Bobby and Arn seem like good examples of what this thread is actually about.
From what I gather they’re both reasonably lean now where no one in their right mind could call them fat or “soft” and they’re both strong as fuk with an emphasis on powerlifting. While they’re chasing strength, they’re not fooling themselves by adding unnecessary amounts of fat just to move a couple extra pounds.
Whatever their supplementation happens to be is mostly irrelevant, they’d both still be nearly the same versions of themselves without it but to a slightly lower degree.
Our genetics may give us different upper limits on strength and size but they certainly don’t doom you to be fat all your life and incapable of maintaining a nice, reasonably aesthetic bf% while still being able to chase down some of those strength or size goals.
12-13-2018, 03:24 PM
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Because i'm almost 6'2 i can't be lean and fill out a shirt so i just stay between 12-18% bf
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12-13-2018, 03:27 PM
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Man...waiting for the ****fest in here.
Never been on tech, probably never will. i just want to maintain in shape and hang with the younger crowds in sports n ****. I'm almost 40 so whatevs.
Never been on tech, probably never will. i just want to maintain in shape and hang with the younger crowds in sports n ****. I'm almost 40 so whatevs.
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12-13-2018, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Dont forget to mention that guy #3 couldn't even hit 2/3/4 and weighed 160 when they decided to start cyclingYou're overlooking the most common one. The overwhelming majority
3. The guy that does it and somehow ends up looking worse than when he started while spreading absolute rubbish advice as if he had any clue.
Those people make up at least 85% of the culture
3. The guy that does it and somehow ends up looking worse than when he started while spreading absolute rubbish advice as if he had any clue.
Those people make up at least 85% of the culture
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
I know you're actually just trolling at this point to make natties mad. This made me giggle. If they would be the same, why do people even sip the juice?Whatever their supplementation happens to be is mostly irrelevant, they’d both still be nearly the same versions of themselves without it but to a slightly lower degree.
12-13-2018, 03:53 PM
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12-13-2018, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By AdvancedDreamer⏩
Didn’t say the same, they’d likely still be well above average in both strength and size amongst serious gym goers while still maintaining a relatively lean physique. It’s just about striking the right balance and knowing how to eat and train, but not necessarily having to kill yourself with a rigorous diet.I know you're actually just trolling at this point to make natties mad. This made me giggle. If they would be the same, why do people even sip the juice?
No one needs an extreme diet just to maintain below 15%.
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