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Originally Posted By Igmann⏩
This a recent trend. Too many people blowing their nuts off on the re holster.

Personally I would never appendix carry a striker fired pistol w/o an external safety.
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Well, my hotel stay during my shooting class might be turning into a camping trip...
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
sup ya god dam conor mcgregor/ Rasputin hybrid head?
I was going for the Rasputin look, thanks for recognizing.

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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Well, my hotel stay during my shooting class might be turning into a camping trip...
That isn't always a bad thing.
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Purchased a Glock 17 Gen 4 today. Really wanted the Beretta 92, but didn't feel like dropping the $900 for it.

I now have two pistols, an AR, and a Mossberg.

That should be able to hold me over.
Good work. G17>Beretta 92 anyway.






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Originally Posted By Igmann⏩
This a recent trend. Too many people blowing their nuts off on the re holster.

Personally I would never appendix carry a striker fired pistol w/o an external safety.
Of course . . . Igmann's margin for error is a lot less than most for appendix carry. Probably still in danger at 3:00.
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
Of course . . . Igmann's margin for error is a lot less than most for appendix carry. Probably still in danger at 3:00.
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
Of course . . . Igmann's margin for error is a lot less than most for appendix carry. Probably still in danger at 3:00.
Let's be honest, I have way more on the line every time I appendix carry than the average male.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
And grab a gun lists it at $780 out of stock
Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
The Ruger 8542 went from "readily obtainable for ~$650" to "doesn't exist" in the span of about two weeks in March, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
ruger 5.56 in stock as of now

https://palmettostatearmory.com/ruge...ifle-8500.html

and searching locally, 5 stores claim to have from Ruger's website "search for availability" feature
the above post is not serious and is for entertainment purposes only.
Thanks for your time.
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Originally Posted By Igmann⏩
This a recent trend. Too many people blowing their nuts off on the re holster.

Personally I would never appendix carry a striker fired pistol w/o an external safety.
shirley this isn't real....
the above post is not serious and is for entertainment purposes only.
Thanks for your time.
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Originally Posted By JChippy⏩
shirley this isn't real....
It's real, you gotta imagine, thousands of people training appendix carry, that's 10s of thousands of draws/reholsters... someone is bound to get their shirt stuck in the trigger guard or miss the holster altogether and hit their belt buckle w the trigger and go boom. Everyone wanna be tacticool and re hoslter without looking down. Which is the right way to do it but w a striker fired pistol, probably not the best way to do it.
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Originally Posted By JChippy⏩
ruger 5.56 in stock as of now

https://palmettostatearmory.com/ruge...ifle-8500.html

and searching locally, 5 stores claim to have from Ruger's website "search for availability" feature
Compare the 8500 to the 8542 and realize that PSA is selling the 8500 for $50 more than the 8542 was going for.
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Originally Posted By Igmann⏩
It's real, you gotta imagine, thousands of people training appendix carry, that's 10s of thousands of draws/reholsters... someone is bound to get their shirt stuck in the trigger guard or miss the holster altogether and hit their belt buckle w the trigger and go boom. Everyone wanna be tacticool and re hoslter without looking down. Which is the right way to do it but w a striker fired pistol, probably not the best way to do it.
Looking the gun into the holster is the right way to do it. This is like quadruply true with striker carried appendix (no hammer to ride your thumb over)

The argument for the tacticool no look reholster is dumb. If you don't have 1-2 seconds to look down and visually verify the holster mouth and trigger guard are clear, you don't have 1-2 seconds to re-draw either, keep the gun in your hand. Because, like you say, how many people carrying AIWB, training or competing AIWB, it's a lot of opportunity to have that one mistake. And, unlike with hip carry, well, appendix is areally badmuzzle direction

That said, you SHOULD be capable of a no-look reholster, if for no other reason, than you might be somewhere really dark etc etc. So it's a good skill to practice, but AIWB and striker, practicing it unloaded is probably best

Now, if you were a cop, with an all-kydex OWB holster, and you were putting the gun back into the holster while keeping your eyes on a suspect that you're going to close distance with...totally different scenario. As a private citizen carrying concealed you shouldn't really be putting the gun away to approach somebody at all like that, and, an all-kydex OWB duty-style (usually rides even farther away from the body to clear armour etc)...much different muzzle direction and much more margin for error in where you align the muzzle to get it in
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Looking the gun into the holster is the right way to do it. This is like quadruply true with striker carried appendix (no hammer to ride your thumb over)

The argument for the tacticool no look reholster is dumb. If you don't have 1-2 seconds to look down and visually verify the holster mouth and trigger guard are clear, you don't have 1-2 seconds to re-draw either, keep the gun in your hand. Because, like you say, how many people carrying AIWB, training or competing AIWB, it's a lot of opportunity to have that one mistake. And, unlike with hip carry, well, appendix is areally badmuzzle direction

That said, you SHOULD be capable of a no-look reholster, if for no other reason, than you might be somewhere really dark etc etc. So it's a good skill to practice, but AIWB and striker, practicing it unloaded is probably best

Now, if you were a cop, with an all-kydex OWB holster, and you were putting the gun back into the holster while keeping your eyes on a suspect that you're going to close distance with...totally different scenario. As a private citizen carrying concealed you shouldn't really be putting the gun away to approach somebody at all like that, and, an all-kydex OWB duty-style (usually rides even farther away from the body to clear armour etc)...much different muzzle direction and much more margin for error in where you align the muzzle to get it in
I agree, there isn't anything wrong with looking down, it's just not how most schools train.

My other issue w appendix carrying a striker fired pistol is that even if you look down, you could be shaky, vision could be out of whack, you might not be as mechanically sound with your movements. And you very well may just reholster it instinctively without looking down. Just a personal preference, for appendix carry, I'm only doing it with a da/sa pistol, no safety engaged. Decock before reholstering.

I used to think that da/sa pistols were antiquated but totally get it now. When you train with them, learning the 2 different trigger pulls isn't that difficult either.
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Originally Posted By Igmann⏩
I agree, there isn't anything wrong with looking down, it's just not how most schools train.

My other issue w appendix carrying a striker fired pistol is that even if you look down, you could be shaky, vision could be out of whack, you might not be as mechanically sound with your movements. And you very well may just reholster it instinctively without looking down. Just a personal preference, for appendix carry, I'm only doing it with a da/sa pistol, no safety engaged. Decock before reholstering.

I used to think that da/sa pistols were antiquated but totally get it now. When you train with them, learning the 2 different trigger pulls isn't that difficult either.
I'd worry about forgetting to decock. Because, then you might de cock. I just can't imagine AIWB for myself unless it's a hammer fired DAO (or go full OCD and only put the gun into the holster then put the holster on, for super deep concealment NPE situations, not normal daily)

Better really hammer home the training point of dropping the hammer in a safe direction and riding the now-down hammer with your thumb (and take a moment during the process to consciously verify that the hammer is down as you put your thumb over it, before into the holster)
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I'd worry about forgetting to decock. Because, then you might de cock. I just can't imagine AIWB for myself unless it's a hammer fired DAO (or go full OCD and only put the gun into the holster then put the holster on, for super deep concealment NPE situations, not normal daily)

Better really hammer home the training point of dropping the hammer in a safe direction and riding the now-down hammer with your thumb (and take a moment during the process to consciously verify that the hammer is down as you put your thumb over it, before into the holster)
I think the decocking can be learned as a habit as long as you teach yourself to ride the hammer on the reholster.

Theres also a concern that if you do get shot, beat up and your motor functions are shot that you could have difficulty reholstering when you really need to. Most people haven't been in a state of adrenaline to understand how something as basic as reholstering can be difficult under a stressful situation.

I had an LEO tell me that he once responded to a shooting and the ccw holder was so out of it that he put his pistol into his pants pocket, didn't even reholster.

Either way, dao or da/sa for appendix. I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks this way. Everyone's like "nah you'll be fine" and I'm like yeah femoral artery disagrees
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Originally Posted By Igmann⏩
I think the decocking can be learned as a habit as long as you teach yourself to ride the hammer on the reholster.

Theres also a concern that if you do get shot, beat up and your motor functions are shot that you could have difficulty reholstering when you really need to. Most people haven't been in a state of adrenaline to understand how something as basic as reholstering can be difficult under a stressful situation.

I had an LEO tell me that he once responded to a shooting and the ccw holder was so out of it that he put his pistol into his pants pocket, didn't even reholster.

Either way, dao or da/sa for appendix. I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks this way. Everyone's like "nah you'll be fine" and I'm like yeah femoral artery disagrees
Nice to know I'm not the only one terrified of blowing my dink off lol.
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Where is a safe place to store my black powder? The only place I could find some had a minimum order of 4 pounds because of the hazardous shipping price. I dont need 4 pounds but it finally got here. I was thinking of keeping it in my garage but it is humid and hot here in Florida. Thanks
In your safe, on a shelf, on the side, whichever of the two sides is the most exposed/not up against a wall.

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Nice to know I'm not the only one terrified of blowing my dink off lol.
just lol @ not wearing ballistic boxer briefs
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
just lol @ not wearing ballistic boxer briefs
My bigger concern is that the bullet might ricochet off my shaft and kill a bystander.
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
just lol @ not wearing ballistic boxer briefs
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that face you make when Ahmaud Arbery gets posthumously convicted of criminal mischief and 2 counts of aggravated assault with intent to do bodily harm, and the two defendants get their charges dropped which spurs massive civil unrest with violence out on the streets with protesters wearing "Justice for TreyVaugn" and "Die Rhodesia" t shirts




edit: also holy **** at this vid from the NRA going around about a self-defense shooting

9 to the body, 1 to the head to stop the threat?

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[QUOTE=Meatie post_id=1605416951]that face you make when Ahmaud Arbery gets posthumously convicted of criminal mischief and 2 counts of aggravated assault with intent to do bodily harm, and the two defendants get their charges dropped which spurs massive civil unrest with violence out on the streets with protesters wearing "Justice for TreyVaugn" and "Die Rhodesia" t shirts

[img]https://scontent-msp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/99336613_1327418944122012_4838595089204772864_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=ROKHC9OXVdgAX_d7eo3&_nc_ht=scontent-msp1-1.xx&oh=b726c941f66ee8970a4002019c386d42&oe=5EEA22D3[/img]


edit: also holy **** at this vid from the NRA going around about a self-defense shooting

9 to the body, 1 to the head to stop the threat?

[youtube]cEVWo9n5eKU[/yutube][/QUOTE]That's about the worst person you should ever pick to get into a gunfight with.
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
9 to the body, 1 to the head to stop the threat?
You're damn right. All kinds of freedom, all kinds.
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