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post 1645746353 08-26-2021, 06:03 AM
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I really don't want to get it, but I can see the writing on the wall you know? Word on the street today is when they will announce you need it in order to continue working for the company, otherwise you will be terminated. I also think across the board we'll start to see increasingly annoying mandates to the point where eventually it will make your life near impossible to live without the vaccine. At some point you'd figure they'd have to stop, but I don't see the end in sight.

Meeting today is at lunch, so hold me brahs.
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Originally Posted By GM54
that website is ridiculous. the articles are written by a rabbi and nothing from any doctors anywhere.
I just clicked on that link and saw a banner advertising some doctor "with Dinesh D'Souza." What a crock of ****.
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Originally Posted By JStrez
I really don't want to get it, but I can see the writing on the wall you know? Word on the street today is when they will announce you need it in order to continue working for the company, otherwise you will be terminated. I also think across the board we'll start to see increasingly annoying mandates to the point where eventually it will make your life near impossible to live without the vaccine. At some point you'd figure they'd have to stop, but I don't see the end in sight.

Meeting today is at lunch, so hold me brahs.
Be sure to ask about severance packages and if they can be held liable for any negative effects you may have from getting the vaccine.
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post 1645746483 08-26-2021, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
I just clicked on that link and saw a banner advertising some doctor "with Dinesh D'Souza." What a crock of ****.
Yeah bro. Just two weeks to flatten the curve!
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post 1645747343 08-26-2021, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE
so why dont you want to take the vaccine?
it isn't a vaccine. it is experimental gene therapy. even the pioneer of MRNA is against it's use.

lol show me where they are actually injecting covid into people?

i'll wait
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post 1645747673 08-26-2021, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
SinoVac, SinoPharm and a couple more Chinese vaccines are deactivated virus types. None are available in Western countries, and AFAIK no Western countries consider being vaccinated with ones of those as "vaccinated", even though they are recognized by the WHO as Covid vaccines.
Now ask yourself why the EUA hasn't been pulled from the other vaccines.
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Originally Posted By chaunce54
No, let's hope it does. The people in this country have become far too comfortable and complacent...
So you’re suggestion is an apocalyptic collapse of society to “reset” things?

That’ll show ‘em
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The Republicans literally end Enhanced Unemployment on Labor Day. Talk about bad timing.
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Originally Posted By mp83
Just get the damn vaccine.What are you so afraid of?


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post 1645753573 08-26-2021, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE
So you’re suggestion is an apocalyptic collapse of society to “reset” things?

That’ll show ‘em
It's what you voted for...
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post 1645754913 08-26-2021, 08:24 AM
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Good for you OP. Stand by your principles. I know your feels of being isolated, imagine living in Canada it's x1000.

To all the Americans, just take a look at other countries to see the abuse of power. My province is at 82% with one jab aged 12+. Now they're pressuring to have children under 12 vaccinated. First, herd immunity was if we hit 75%, now they want 90%, soon it'll be 100%. Provinces have passports and major banks, institutions, and cities now require vaccination.

To those that simply state "who cares just get the jab" do not have theforesightto see that your compliance is what makes this continue.
Originally Posted By lexbishop
Also, Montana just passed no employer mandated vaccines at all; so, actually even better than Florida. Start looking into it, and it might just be what your wife and you need to move forward. I don't know the details but a few of the boards on communities.win and r/nonewnormal were talking about it today.
I have been in the works to move to a red state. I'll definitely take a look into Montana now. Florida was my top option but Montana with the protected class law, is looking great.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
SinoVac, SinoPharm and a couple more Chinese vaccines are deactivated virus types. None are available in Western countries, and AFAIK no Western countries consider being vaccinated with ones of those as "vaccinated", even though they are recognized by the WHO as Covid vaccines.
Wasn't aware of this...
post 1645755513 08-26-2021, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Wasn't aware of this...
The propaganda machine doesn't want you to know...
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
What I don't understand is how people like OP can't appreciate that these employers/schools/airlines/bars/other businesses are well within their rights to want to prevent unvaccinated spreadnecks from turning their businesses/schools/etc into covid hotspots that sicken their employees, make vaccinated customers feel unsafe, and contribute unnecessarily to an ongoing pandemic. Why can't unvaccinated people just accept the consequences of their actions?
This argument immediately falls apart when you consider vaccinated employees can cause the same event in a workplace. Do better
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Just heard on radio that japan has suspended moderna vaccinations because foreign chemicals were discovered in the tubes.
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400
Just heard on radio that japan has suspended moderna vaccinations because foreign chemicals were discovered in the tubes.
Yep and they are moving forward with ivermectin after seeing the success in India.
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Originally Posted By IronILLinois
are u vaxxed m'lady?
No.
Originally Posted By samsbolton
snowflakes afraid of a needle
No. Mandates are NOT about the vaccine or about public health.

If the vaccine was proven to be safe and effective there wouldn't be any need for a mandate. People would be lining up to get it and paying for it too. If the vaccine protects people that are vaccinated + everyone has had plenty of time to get a free vaccination = f*ck off.

Many people struggle with alcoholism and drunkeness and alcoholism do a lot of damage to individuals and to society as a whole. There has even been a good amount of research around a potential genetic link re:vulnerability to alcoholism.

But we still have alcohol available in most places for whoever wants to purchase and consume it. We don't ban alcohol because "some people" may be damaged by it or can't deal with it. We assume that adult humans can assess their own situation and make their own choices.

You can't completely NERF reality to provide some kind of complete protection for all humans.
Originally Posted By StoliFun
I can understand how people like OP see these mandates by employers and schools and whatnot and "vaccine passport" requirements at public-facing businesses are in the same league as gov't-enforced vaccine mandates, though I don't agree with them on that. What I don't understand is how people like OP can't appreciate that these employers/schools/airlines/bars/other businesses are well within their rights to want to prevent unvaccinated spreadnecks from turning their businesses/schools/etc into covid hotspots that sicken their employees, make vaccinated customers feel unsafe, and contribute unnecessarily to an ongoing pandemic.Why can't unvaccinated people just accept the consequences of their actions?
Why can't businesses/schools/etc. accept that this leaky vaccination is failing and may even make the pandemic worse?
Originally Posted By ezmac31
This argument immediately falls apart when you consider vaccinated employees can cause the same event in a workplace. Do better
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This.
Originally Posted By BredRoller
This is because you have by-stander mentality.

"Oh yes, someone else will make these decisions for me"

"Someone else will protest for muh rights"

"Government will surely change their mind and not try to overreach their powers"

No chit they're going to keep going farther and farther - it's only going to stop when people rise up to stop it. Seriously, think about it and look to places like Australia. Just a year ago people thought this would all "be over" once the vaccines were out but the goal posts keep moving every month basically. First lockdowns, then masks, then "Once vaccinated...", then "once 70% vaccinated", etc.

...

The change starts with people like you doing something, even if it's small. You just said in your post you "really don't want to get it". So DON'T. Be part of the solution, not the problem.

inb4 excuses
And at this point non-participation seems like the best weapon against tyranny.

What, you won't "allow" me to work? You won't "allow" me to go to restaurants? movies? events? You won't "allow" me to travel?

What will they do if a large enough number of people #stopspending? #canceleverything? #essentialsonly?
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im going to get my first jab of pfizer today. literally millions of people have this chit and are fine.

i had covid in april, mild case..nbd.

my brother, 31 years old, healthy, no underlying conditions, ended up in the hospital for 3 months... yes 12 weeks. went from 240lb to 180lb at 6ft 2. legs looked like he just got out of auschwitz. hes one of the lucky ones because hes out and doesnt need oxygen.

yea the death rate is 1% or whatever but if you get hit with that 1% your life is changed forever.


all that being said.... i dont think we should be forcing people to get it
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Originally Posted By Ck4288
Sorry Opie,

Looks like it's time to head to North Caroli.......Nebraska?


https://www.lmtonline.com/news/artic...e-16408819.php
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Originally Posted By katya422
I don't think so. Not this exactly. There have been several threads by miscers who either say that they will have to get the vax soon or lose their job, or that they got the vax either so they won't lose their job or so they can travel.
I swear to God I read this exact thread not long ago.
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Have you or her taken any other vaccines in the past?
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Originally Posted By keels141
It is disturbing to think we are moving towards a two-tiered society where the unvaccinated are treated as inferior.
Allow me to introduce you to America, where a multi-tiered society exists, especially if you are a person of color....but vaccines are the thing that sets the real revolution off, as opposed to just going for a jog in the "wrong area" and being shot....lol.
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Originally Posted By chaunce54
Be sure to ask about severance packages and if they can be held liable for any negative effects you may have from getting the vaccine.
Not to mention, most jobs are "at will". They can require you get the deathjab and then 2 weeks later lay you off. Then what?
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To those who said to let them fire her instead, that is what we're doing. She is a "travel nurse" doing a local assignment. So the hospital instituted the policy. Her travel staffing agency said that the hospital needs her to be vaccinated by Sept. 6th or they are severing the contract. She told the agency that's fine, and she'll work until her last scheduled day before the 6th, which is the 5th. Because she doesn't actually work for the hospital, there is no possibility of severance or anything like that.

To the few people who said "Have fun being homeless", or some variety of that, you clearly didn't read the OP. We have enough cash to live for 3+ years without either of us getting a job. If we absolutely needed to dig into our retirement accounts because for some reason over the next 3 years we couldn't find a way to make money, then our retirement accounts will take us another 12 to 15 years at least. So, I appreciate the concern, but we'll be okay. We've made a series of really good financial decisions over the last 10 years which have seemingly all led up to allowing us to choose personal freedom in this instance. Choosing to buy the 2004 Honda Accord for $3k when I could have bough the new Audi, Buying a 200k house when we could have easily afforded the 500k one, are just a few of the great decisions we've made. I have absolute 0 concern that we'll be just fine.

To be completely honest it feels liberating. I'm excited for my wife to see what her next phase of life is. She's been burned out from the hospital setting for a long time now. She used to be a staff nurse, and the reason she switched to traveling was she was hoping it would bring back the spark to and make her excited again about nursing. While we enjoyed the actual travelling part of it, the nursing part was the same, and often times worse. I'm very excited to see what the future holds for her.
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Why is OP’s wife such a selfish bitch?

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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610
To those who said to let them fire her instead, that is what we're doing. She is a "travel nurse" doing a local assignment. So the hospital instituted the policy. Her travel staffing agency said that the hospital needs her to be vaccinated by Sept. 6th or they are severing the contract. She told the agency that's fine, and she'll work until her last scheduled day before the 6th, which is the 5th. Because she doesn't actually work for the hospital, there is no possibility of severance or anything like that.

To the few people who said "Have fun being homeless", or some variety of that, you clearly didn't read the OP. We have enough cash to live for 3+ years without either of us getting a job. If we absolutely needed to dig into our retirement accounts because for some reason over the next 3 years we couldn't find a way to make money, then our retirement accounts will take us another 12 to 15 years at least. So, I appreciate the concern, but we'll be okay. We've made a series of really good financial decisions over the last 10 years which have seemingly all led up to allowing us to choose personal freedom in this instance. Choosing to buy the 2004 Honda Accord for $3k when I could have bough the new Audi, Buying a 200k house when we could have easily afforded the 500k one, are just a few of the great decisions we've made. I have absolute 0 concern that we'll be just fine.

To be completely honest it feels liberating. I'm excited for my wife to see what her next phase of life is. She's been burned out from the hospital setting for a long time now. She used to be a staff nurse, and the reason she switched to traveling was she was hoping it would bring back the spark to and make her excited again about nursing. While we enjoyed the actual travelling part of it, the nursing part was the same, and often times worse. I'm very excited to see what the future holds for her.
Sounds like you're just using the COVID vaccines as an excuse to do something you already had in mind for a while, which is something I kinda suspected
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Originally Posted By Destor
Sounds like you're just using the COVID vaccines as an excuse to do something you already had in mind for a while, which is something I kinda suspected
Not at all. Her goal was going to be to switch out of Med-Surg, into a more lax department after all of the Covid stuff died down. AKA she still wanted to be a nurse, but not a Med-Surg nurse. Something like infusion or an outpatient place with a normal monday to friday dayshift schedule. This has completely upended that. At this moment she has no clue about what she's going to do next. I'm saying that being pushed out the door allows her to discover something other than nursing.

What that's going to be? Who knows. Will she make more money than she will in nursing? Highly unlikely, at least for the next 5+ years. Will a lot of our life goals be pushed back or altered completely? Absolutely. Having her high(ish) income as a nurse was a significant factor in us being able to ultimately live the life we wanted to while also allowing me the flexibility to find a career that I enjoyed after leaving a career that was literally killing me. This is a game changer for our future, there is no doubt about that. I'm just saying that maybe it will be a blessing in disguise for her and for us to be forced into pursuing something different than what we had originally set out to pursue.
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Originally Posted By BredRoller
Yeah non-participation, samzidat, laughing in the faces of these people trying this stuff, and protesting. All non-violent solutions that can work with enough people.





You don't trust nature and natural antibodies? They most likely last much longer than the vacc ones anyway. Combining your natural immunity plus this rando vacc your rate of survival just went from 0.0001% to 0.00001%. Congrats!! (I don't care if you get it or not just a really odd conclusion to make imo)





>Healthy
>240lbs

picc 1, unless he was elite level athlete i don't buy it one bit that your bro is healthy m8
definitely higher on the body fat side but active and a typical 5 day per week lifter. Let's leave the subjective wording out. i'll replace the word "healthy" with "didn't have any underlying conditions". doctors were baffled how he got so sick from it.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
6'2" 240 is the equivalent of 5'9" 223, and to put that into context, Frank Zane was 5'9" 180lbs shredded, so maybe 5'9" 200-210 offseason.

I doubt the guy was at Frank Zane's level lmao
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well boys...

talked on the phone with my clinical director. doesnt look good for me since these hospitals are considering students as guests and not employees.

sigh... i will try to delay as long as possible. it is really insane how living in a chithole state like IL is like living in a totally different country compared to TX.
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