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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
See...here we go. Your nativity shines through.

No one says don't come here to the USA legally. Same as my ancestors did.

What I am saying is don't come here Illegally and don't try and change the culture that my ancestors built over the past 300 years.

How can you not understand this?

It is called ASSIMILATION into a society that is accepting you.
You don't actually sound very accepting. You sound like you want to be the Borg and make everyone look and sound just like you do. (Editing. I see you already figured out it's naivete. Or naivety, or naiveness. Tricky to spell, probably because it's French... although apparently you are assimilating its use)
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The irish, germans, italians etc that immigrated came here to work a piece of undeveloped land and turn it into something. They weren't coming here for handouts.
I can't tell if you're agreeing with his opinion or disagreeing. I don't think any immigrant's motivation is to get a handout. 13-14% of our population is made up of legal immigrants, and many estimates fall in the 3-4% range for the portion of our population that is illegal/undocumented immigrants.

Pretty sure the vast majority of both populations want to become productive members of our population and never need a handout.
There's probably a bigger portion of the non-immigrant population that just wants a handout than there is of the immigrant populations. Half the illegal immigrants here are Mexican, and almost all of the ones I know are some incredibly hard working people!
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Originally Posted By metroins
You are wrong and a liar. To have the emotional breakdown you're having, you are also on drugs.
Being honest.....you seem as though you are the only one tipping over here.

I'm fine.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
So you believe that hispanic/Mexican/S American people share the same cultures/values/traditions as Euro whites?

This is your premise?

As I said.....so so naive.
When they assimilate yes. People used to think Irish were *iggers and Catholicism was viewed as pure evil by the people that came over slightly before.

Hell my German grandfather’s family didn’t want him marrying my Swedish grandmother (and same for her family) because they didn’t want “mixed race” grandkids.

You’re not doing anything that hasn’t been done since the dawn of time.
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Originally Posted By JustTheDad
You don't actually sound very accepting. You sound like you want to be the Borg and make everyone look and sound just like you do. (Also, naivete, naivety, or naiveness. It is tricky to spell and we knew what you meant, but I you should know that nativity is the thing you put out around Christmas. Maybe spell check got you.)



I can't tell if you're agreeing with his opinion or disagreeing. I don't think any immigrant's motivation is to get a handout. 13-14% of our population is made up of legal immigrants, and many estimates fall in the 3-4% range for the portion of our population that is illegal/undocumented immigrants.

Pretty sure the vast majority of both populations want to become productive members of our population and never need a handout.
There's probably a bigger portion of the non-immigrant population that just wants a handout than there is of the immigrant populations. Half the illegal immigrants here are Mexican, and almost all of the ones I know are some incredibly hard working people!
One....I changed the spelling in a later post.

And you are correct. I am not accepting of people that do not want to be a part of and learn the culture that built the USA into the world's greatest civilization.

Hey....if you want to be a part of Mexican or Colombian or Venezuelan or Haitian or African cultures? All 3rd world countries btw? Knock yourself out. Me? I would rather stick with a culture that has built more first world countries in human history than any other culture in existence. That being white Euro based.

As I said....stop trying to change ME into what you are. You came here. I didn't go to Mexico or wherever it is you are from.

The USA is the ONLY country in the world where we are made to feel guilty for wanting to protect our way of life and how the USA was built.

It is ludicrous.
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post 1683331923 05-24-2023, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
When they assimilate yes. People used to think Irish were *iggers and Catholicism was viewed as pure evil by the people that came over slightly before.

Hell my German grandfather’s family didn’t want him marrying my Swedish grandmother (and same for her family) because they didn’t want “mixed race” grandkids.

You’re not doing anything that hasn’t been done since the dawn of time.
But they don't. I live in S Cal. And I am flat out telling you they don't. I see it every day.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
But they don't. I live in S Cal. And I am flat out telling you they don't. I see it every day.
That’s what so many here before your German and Irish and Italian family tree said about them too. Now here you are a handful of generations later claiming “300 years” of “White Euro” ideals with ZERO understanding of how this country was actually built and how every single wave of immigrants has been treated. Somewhere 150 years ago someone was saying exactly the same sht about your ancestors.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
That’s what everyone hear before your German and Irish and Italian family tree said about them too. Now here you are claiming credit for 300 years of “values” because you don’t like hearing Spanish.
Ok but it is 2 different worlds. German/Italy/Irish/English/Scandinavian/Russian/Poland people etc when they all came over to the USA may not have spoken the same language....but they shared similar cultures/religion/land mass/food/skin color. Hence why it was so easy to form into one cohesive culture after maybe only one generation. They were Americans.

People from C or S America or Africa? They have nothing in common with Christian Euro whites.

And look, I am not blaming them for that.

What I am saying is don't try to change US into THEM. Don't try to diversify us.

Again...why is it in the US and the western white world is it ok to do this? But no where else? I don't see it happening in S Korea. Or Japan. Or China. Even Thailand.

But whites in the US Canada and Europe? YOU MUST DIVERSIFY!!!!

Imagine the outrage these days if 10 M white people from California decided to rush the Nigerian border and say to the native people "you must accept our culture or you are a racist"!!


But no one says a word when it happens to my race and culture.

You can't see the hypocrisy?
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post 1683333153 05-24-2023, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
Ok but it is 2 different worlds. German/Italy/Irish/English/Scandinavian/Russian/Poland people etc when they all came over to the USA may not have spoken the same language....but they shared similar cultures/religion/land mass/food/skin color. Hence why it was so easy to form into one cohesive culture after maybe only one generation. They were Americans.

People from C or S America or Africa? They have nothing in common with Christian Euro whites.

And look, I am not blaming them for that.

What I am saying is don't try to change US into THEM. Don't try to diversify us.

Again...why is it in the US and the western white world is it ok to do this? But no where else? I don't see it happening in S Korea. Or Japan. Or China. Even Thailand.

But whites in the US Canada and Europe? YOU MUST DIVERSIFY!!!!

Imagine the outrage these days if 10 M white people from California decided to rush the Nigerian border and say to the native people "you must accept our culture or you are a racist"!!


But no one says a word when it happens to my race and culture.

You can't see the hypocrisy?
And btw I know the answer to the question of why we are being made to be 'diverse'.

The more dumbed down and diluted a culture is? The easier it is to control by the Power Elite.

It really is that simple.
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Originally Posted By BeachPro11
Ok but it is 2 different worlds. German/Italy/Irish/English/Scandinavian/Russian/Poland people etc when they all came over to the USA may not have spoken the same language....but they shared similarcultures/religion/land mass/food/skin color.
Literally none of that’s true other than a vague skin tone.

And why do you even care about that?
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Well … not really. Some sure, but they also formed insular communities were English may not have been spoken by many, they didn’t marry outside of those communities, and they were despised by many groups that were here before them for fcking up the culture and religion.

It took a couple generations before they were assimilated.
Yes and they were discriminated against by Americans until they did.

Not sure how this changes anything I said. Immigration then was very different from immigration now. They got no hand outs and were not able to vote. Eliminate those to factors and I suspect that even the right will lose most of its fuks on this topic.

Of course I also suspect that would result in the left no longer acting like immigration is the best thing in the world.
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Originally Posted By metroins
I'm fine.

Lol you really are a woman.
Your ability to use sarcastic repertoire to criticize is second only to Roman Roy.

10/10!
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
Yes and they were discriminated against by Americans until they did.

Not sure how this changes anything I said. Immigration then was very different from immigration now. They got no hand outs and were not able to vote. Eliminate those to factors and I suspect that even the right will lose most of its fuks on this topic.

Of course I also suspect that would result in the left no longer acting like immigration is the best thing in the world.
Yes, they were discriminated against for multiple generations, but they became just as American as me (you remain to be seen). All the rest is a bunch of BS, times have changed for everyone - not just the evil immigrants.
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Why didn't DeSantis announce on a live camera instead of doing a prepared statement on audio?
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
I’m not naive. You’re assuming everyone of Mexican heritage is here illegally, or that it taking a generation or two to assimilate is something new. It’s not - at least not for many people. And news flash, the world doesn’t owe you **** because someone did something before you were even born.
Mexicans aren't assimilating the same way Italians, Irish, Polish, etc. etc. did back in the day. Not even close. It's been quite the opposite (Spanish is even more common now).
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
Mexicans aren't assimilating the same way Italians, Irish, Polish, etc. etc. did back in the day. Not even close. It's been quite the opposite (Spanish is even more common now).
It took generations for them to assimilate. Some still kind of haven't in some places.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
It took generations for them to assimilate. Some still kind of haven't in some places.
No, it didn't.

I never had to "Press 1 for Italian; Press 2 for English."

Wanna know how I know you live in a 90% white area?
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
No, it didn't.

I never had to "Press 1 for Italian; Press 2 for English."

Wanna know how I know you live in a 90% white area?
(1) Yes, yes, it did. You're completely ignorant of American history if you think otherwise.

(2) We didn't do that when they immigrated - and I think it's a good thing we do - however we should be pushing the melting pot idea again more. But the things is they will assimilate - just like the evil Italians or the Irish *iggers, or any other group hated on by the group that got here slightly before them.

I have a lot of friends from Hispanic backgrounds and they are just as American as me.

(3) My wife is of Chinese decent. Her parents immigrated when they were in their 20s. She and her brother are also just as American as me. There have been many many family functions where I was the only white person around. It doesn't bother me one tiny bit because who you are isn't your damn skin color.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
(1) Yes, yes, it did. You're completely ignorant of American history if you think otherwise.

(2) We didn't do that when they immigrated - and I think it's a good thing we do - however we should be pushing the melting pot idea again more. But the things is they will assimilate - just like the evil Italians or the Irish *iggers, or any other group hated on by the group that got here slightly before them.

I have a lot of friends from Hispanic backgrounds and they are just as American as me.

(3) My wife is of Chinese decent. Her parents immigrated when they were in their 20s. She and her brother are also just as American as me. There have been many many family functions where I was the only white person around. It doesn't bother me one tiny bit because who you are isn't your damn skin color.
My wife is of Chinese descent as well. Actually Taiwanese. Her parents immigrated to the US when she was 4. And I can tell you that they have nothing....absolutely NOTHING in common with the US as I grew up and its heritage. But they try.

Don't get me wrong. Her parents have done an amazing job raising her and making a success of themselves. In fact they are very successful. But they know nothing deep down other than what they learned here of traditional American culture.

My wife does. She speaks English with no accent. Knows everything about America that I do...for the most part. She still does not know a lot about the midwestern middle class as she grew up in CA. But she is very very American.

The difference between her and her family and all of the illegals that you are defending?

They came here legally.

They learned English. Or at least try. They understand it.

They work hard.

They asked for no handouts.

They embraced American culture. In fact the mom loves Trump haha. Celebrates all the traditional American holidays even though she can barely speak English and the dad can't speak really any.

But they try.

The problem is most immigrants that do come here?

Do none of that. But want us white people to change to their ways.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Don’t change my words and then demand an example of what I didn’t say. His policy - his actions - were all driven by his ego. Hell, he wouldn’t have even run if Obama didn’t make fun of him.
So you cant seperate emotion from logic, either.

You responded to:
Originally Posted By BullittEV
That sucks you and your father dont know how to separate emotion from logic and vote based on policy.
Originally Posted By miscinbro
Except that his policy is deeply effected by the fact he has the emotional maturity of a toddler.
Originally Posted By BullittEV
Name one piece of legislation that was due to this "immaturity."
Originally Posted By miscinbro
Don’t change my words and then demand an example of what I didn’t say. His policy - his actions - were all driven by his ego. Hell, he wouldn’t have even run if Obama didn’t make fun of him.
what the fuk? Youre saying that his immature emotions affected his policy. I ask what policy and I'm changing your words? lol
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
(1) Yes, yes, it did. You're completely ignorant of American history if you think otherwise.

(2) We didn't do that when they immigrated - and I think it's a good thing we do - however we should be pushing the melting pot idea again more. But the things is they will assimilate - just like the evil Italians or the Irish *iggers, or any other group hated on by the group that got here slightly before them.

I have a lot of friends from Hispanic backgrounds and they are just as American as me.

(3) My wife is of Chinese decent. Her parents immigrated when they were in their 20s. She and her brother are also just as American as me. There have been many many family functions where I was the only white person around. It doesn't bother me one tiny bit because who you are isn't your damn skin color.
Show me one state with 40% Italian speakers or GTFO.

(BTW, to answer the question - there is none. In New York and New Jersey, roughly 0.5% of the population are Native Italian speakers. On the other hand, Spanish is GROWING at a rapid pace since the 1960s. They're not assimilating).
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desantis sucks and would be a failure if he were elected. You don't have to be galaxy brained to understand that everything he's been trying to do is a setup for running for president. If he were elected, all of his laws and other things would get immediately memory holed and go nowhere. Then in the white house he'll do whatever for israel and probably start ww3

also lol @ mexicans assimilating. My ex's mom has been in LA for 20 years and has never even bothered to learn english. I'm sure some of them are good people
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Originally Posted By metroins
I'm fine.

Lol you really are a woman.
Holy crap the dude started the day by wanting you to kill yourself and then just proceeded to post the entire day spewing his low IQ, racist, "hur dur da immigrants be here for hand out hur dur" garbage.

It's like he's vying for some kind of prize for top racist moron in this cesspool.

SAD
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Originally Posted By Fishman15
Why didn't DeSantis announce on a live camera instead of doing a prepared statement on audio?
why not announce in FL
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
Show me one state with 40% Italian speakers or GTFO.

(BTW, to answer the question - there is none. In New York and New Jersey, roughly 0.5% of the population are Native Italian speakers. On the other hand, Spanish is GROWING at a rapid pace since the 1960s. They're not assimilating).
Italian-Americans know close to zero Italian. It’s crazy. My grandfather was born in Sicily, he came over after WWII around age 12, one of the last waves of Italian immigration to New York. He immediately renounced his Italian citizenship and for the rest of his life corrected anyone who called him Italian. That man was an American. He even refused to teach my dad the Italian language. I’m kinda rustled about it now because I only know a few words but at the end of the day that’s the story of my family. We assimilated and put in every effort to do so.

I’m not anti-immigration at all, but I’ve been to neighborhoods down South where you drive through and every sign is in Spanish, every business only caters to Spanish-speaking customers and English is not even understood. Not acceptable IMO. We don’t have that where I’m from so it was a weird thing to experience inside U.S. borders.
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caught some of it...it was pretty awkward / monotone ... not a very charismatic announcement

he did get some pull tho overloading the servers especially when Musk tried to host it on his acct

missing the visual and not doing this in FL was a forced error IMO
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
Italian-Americans know close to zero Italian. It’s crazy. My grandfather was born in Sicily, he came over after WWII around age 12, one of the last waves of Italian immigration to New York. He immediately renounced his Italian citizenship and for the rest of his life corrected anyone who called him Italian. That man was an American. He even refused to teach my dad the Italian language. I’m kinda rustled about it now because I only know a few words but at the end of the day that’s the story of my family. We assimilated and put in every effort to do so.

I’m not anti-immigration at all, but I’ve been to neighborhoods down South where you drive through and every sign is in Spanish, every business only caters to Spanish-speaking customers and English is not even understood. Not acceptable IMO. We don’t have that where I’m from so it was a weird thing to experience inside U.S. borders.
Right? Some enclaves here and there are OK. Some cultural stuff is OK (restaurants, stores, etc. etc.). But they go far beyond that. They straight up are not assimilating and it's getting worse.

When someone tells me the Mexicans are assimilating, I know right then there neighborhood's demographics are full blown Martha's Vineyard status.

Chit I just went to Subway for breakfast and their advertisements areonlyin Spanish.
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caught some of it...it was pretty awkward / monotone ... not a very charismatic announcement

he did get some pull tho overloading the servers especially when Musk tried to host it on his acct

missing the visual and not doing this in FL was a forced error IMO
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
Right? Some enclaves here and there are OK. Some cultural stuff is OK (restaurants, stores, etc. etc.). But they go far beyond that. They straight up are not assimilating and it's getting worse.

When someone tells me the Mexicans are assimilating, I know right then there neighborhood's demographics are full blown Martha's Vineyard status.

Chit I just went to Subway for breakfast and their advertisements areonlyin Spanish.
Strongly agree man. I don’t understand why some of the Mexican immigrants refuse to assimilate. I grew up with a lot of Puerto Ricans and even the FOB ones were all bilingual, knew American cultural norms and so forth. Being a territory helps, but then you also have Cubans in Florida who do the same. They’re proud of their heritage and celebrate their culture, but they assimilate. Parts of Texas and California are like you said completely different. Nobody wants to be an American. They just want to live here.

And the thing is I actually enjoy diversity. That’s where I differ with a lot of conservatives. I see the value in it. There are hard working, intelligent people of literally every ethnic background who help keep this country running and we can all learn from each other. I think it’s a beautiful thing that we live in a country where you can get authentic Vietnamese food, walk into a Hindu temple and listen to Latin Jazz all on the same block. I am pro-melting pot. But it should be a drip, not a pour. We need strong borders and to hold immigrants to a certain standard, making sure they take an effort to assimilate.

This bullchit in New York where they’re giving migrants Xbox consoles and free hotel rooms is infuriating. If Hochul ships them Upstate it’s going to be a fkin disaster.
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