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Originally Posted By roosky11
Until she spends a day or "walks a mile in those shoes" she better keep a fooking open mind. Plenty of high class well provided for women think they're the sht or come from great families and then when everything falls down around them they end up like these women out there doing this stuff or pimping themselves out to get a tent over their head. That's the reality of it. Easier to say those things when you're born into a good family, have money, fuk the right dude (OP). Statistically, TONS of people are literally one missed paycheck from being out on the street. For her to say NEVER give money and just hard work blah blah. Yeah fuk her. My younger bro, came from a loving healthy background in our family. Had all the doors open in life for him. Turned to drugs and the wrong people. If for some reason one day him surviving an extra day meant OP and his Wife giving him 2$, I would hope they do the right thing. Sounds like we'll be planning a funeral thanks to OP's wife. This is just an example but it's also reality for a lot of people out there. I'm not saying give EVERY person $$ or you'd be broke. But it would serve you, the community, and maybe society to do a good deed once in awhile regardless of what the person CHOOSES to do with it.

Back when I drank a lot I had so many days where I told myself I was done with it. Took a long time to happen. But someone getting $$, especially today with a top of 104*, may just be that day.
Yup, that homeless guy I helped a few times ended up getting some kind of street cleaning job in the area, saved up to buy a basic cellphone and I haven't seen him in years. No idea if he made it but at least he put in the effort. I wonder if I still have his number saved somewhere.

He was nice and grateful in return too. Whenever he saw me carrying a heavy box around or something he'd easily be like hey bro let me get that for you and carry it to your front door. I'm 100% sure if some crazy dude had ever attacked me or tried to rob me when he was around he'd jump in and fight for me.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
Yup, that homeless guy I helped a few times ended up getting some kind of street cleaning job in the area, saved up to buy a basic cellphone and I haven't seen him in years. No idea if he made it but at least he put in the effort. I wonder if I still have his number saved somewhere.

He was nice and grateful in return too. Whenever he saw me carrying a heavy box around or something he'd easily be like hey bro let me get that for you and carry it to your front door. I'm 100% sure if some crazy dude had ever attacked me or tried to rob me when he was around he'd jump in and fight for me.
I repped you yesterday. Would rep again. Most people who are homeless do turn to drugs to deal with life. Who wouldn't when you've lost everything for awhile? But people act like EVERYONE on the street is a druggy. Many fall into that trap. But some never start or end up getting out of the drug side of it. I don't carry cash so even though sometimes I want to help I can't. Occasionally I've had some meet me at the gas station or food place close by or told them to wait for me at the end of the drive thru and I'll get them something. I do this once a month. I can actually see where my $$ is going. Now if they trade that for drugs, it's out of my hands.
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
I guess the best thing to do is not communicate with your wife about it and instead post on a gay dying indian bodybuilding forum for some well-thought out, critically-formed, unbiased opinions.
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Shutting this down.

The extreme negativity, mysogany, hate, and pure
idiocy a lot of you "men" post here daily
truly makes me cringe Irl.

The reality here is: OP found a woman
he loves and wanted to marry.
Did it in an unconventional venue,
and was a success. Good for him!
Don't be such a negative bastard
for the sake of beig a dick...

The insane amount of comments
degrading women also has to stop.
I'll begin mass banning for those
comments when I see them. So knock it off.

OP has more life experience than the
vast majority of the misc,
with the average age being around 22,
and knows his relationship better than anyone here.
Who the fuk are you to tear him down? Get a life. Truly.


OP. I wish you the best of luck.
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Originally Posted By roosky11
Until she spends a day or "walks a mile in those shoes" she better keep a fooking open mind. Plenty of high class well provided for women think they're the sht or come from great families and then when everything falls down around them they end up like these women out there doing this stuff or pimping themselves out to get a tent over their head. That's the reality of it. Easier to say those things when you're born into a good family, have money, fuk the right dude (OP). Statistically, TONS of people are literally one missed paycheck from being out on the street. For her to say NEVER give money and just hard work blah blah. Yeah fuk her. My younger bro, came from a loving healthy background in our family. Had all the doors open in life for him. Turned to drugs and the wrong people. If for some reason one day him surviving an extra day meant OP and his Wife giving him 2$, I would hope they do the right thing. Sounds like we'll be planning a funeral thanks to OP's wife. This is just an example but it's also reality for a lot of people out there. I'm not saying give EVERY person $$ or you'd be broke. But it would serve you, the community, and maybe society to do a good deed once in awhile regardless of what the person CHOOSES to do with it.

Back when I drank a lot I had so many days where I told myself I was done with it. Took a long time to happen. But someone getting $$, especially today with a top of 104*, may just be that day.
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Originally Posted By roosky11
I repped you yesterday. Would rep again. Most people who are homeless do turn to drugs to deal with life. Who wouldn't when you've lost everything for awhile? But people act like EVERYONE on the street is a druggy. Many fall into that trap. But some never start or end up getting out of the drug side of it. I don't carry cash so even though sometimes I want to help I can't. Occasionally I've had some meet me at the gas station or food place close by or told them to wait for me at the end of the drive thru and I'll get them something. I do this once a month. I can actually see where my $$ is going. Now if they trade that for drugs, it's out of my hands.
I'm mainly a cash only kinda guy, even have paid my rent in cash both in Colombia and the Netherlands.

In the Netherlands my attitude towards the homeless is a bit different though. There are so many support systems for them that it's almost impossible to end up in a situation where you have to sleep on the streets. Have bought food for some before but my attitude towards them is definitely a bit more negative.
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Your wife has higher test than you do.

But yeah, some people are probably legit homeless.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Kinda like your jawline.

Homeless people are druggies and not functioning members of society. If they want help, they need to work for it, not beg.
Not sure what my jawline has to do with this.

I understand you feel that way, but that isn’t how reality works.

They can beg for it. They do beg for it, and they make quite a bit of money doing that. Which is why they are going to continue doing that.

Your feelings and opinions do not change that, they will not change that.

Accept it, ignore it, or continue to fight the losing battle. Those are our options.
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Originally Posted By OptimusTrajan
Your wife has higher test than you do.

But yeah, some people are probably legit homeless.
This is definitely a very logical line of thinking based on everything that was said.
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u retards are way off the mark calling her based or redpilled srs. Maybe if a man says it, but a woman? huge fkn red flag the lack of compassion and empathy, aka femininity. Even if there is some truth to what she said, no need to be so blunt about it and the not eating part is straight cold.
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I think it's a good lesson that you need to work in order to eat, but I wouldn't phrase it as "deserve". Kid might develop the attitude that the richer you are, the more you inherently deserve it. And that it makes you a better person. That would also be a false understanding of the world.

She should have just explained that pan-handlers are often scam artists. And probably leave it there.
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Originally Posted By PowerPal
u retards are way off the mark calling her based or redpilled srs. Maybe if a man says it, but a woman? huge fkn red flag the lack of compassion and empathy, aka femininity. Even if there is some truth to what she said, no need to be so blunt about it and the not eating part is straight cold.
This also. A woman shouldn't be this masculine minded and jaded. Women are the compassionate and loving ones. They're supposed to be. Especially for children. The last thing I want is some try hard "alpha" wife. I'll be harsh enough for the both of us.

What she says is true for the most part, but as I said earlier, the idea that no one deserves to eat that is homeless is a pretty absurd idea.
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Got to agree with her to an extent. When any money you're giving is going into drugs fuk all that. If someone was legit down and out and hungry, that's different but to do anything to enable a junkie, fuk that chit.
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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah
I’d be pissed too. Her reaction smacks of cold heartedness and a lack of compassion.

Not the kind of wife I’d want but to each their own.
This is the bigger problem, sounds like she wouldn't stick by you at all. Not everyone can make it in society so I don't see how giving someone the basic needs hurts people who are very successful.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
You don't have to be mean about it but there's 0 reason he should be in that position.

Straight up that's the reality of the situation.
This is an example of what I referred to before. You cannot conclusively claim this.

Claiming this so confidently is exactly the reason OP’s wife is wrong. God forbid you ever develop a severe health condition (especially mental) and lose the support of family and friends.

You are failing to empathize and projecting your current mindset onto everyone else. Severe mental illness is no joke - whatever discipline and determination and vitality you feel within you now may dissipate. You have no idea how you’d operate with that condition if you haven’t experienced it.
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The way she worded that statement was very wrong

like she was talking about men struggling in general and dont deserve to eat if they dont figure their situation out
everyone is different. I got sick a few years ago and had to quit working for example.
If I didn't meet my gf, I don't know what would have happened cuz sht was fukd.

And other ppl just can't find work. Haven't searched for a while but like 1000 ppl are applying for random cashier jobs i'm sure

I don't even agree with giving them money either but the way she talked about men like that is the problem.
Though, if I had some pocket change on me, I have given them some in the past if they seem genuine and I see them around a lot.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
Curious why some of you think eating is this basic right that should be given to you. What species gets to eat that can't provide for itself? Those animals starve off and die. Best case scenario is there's a pack that supports one another, but usually each member still brings value in some form or another that allows them to be a part of the benefits which includes eating.

I agree with her completely. Is it a bit cruel and callous to say it out loud? Yeah but she's 100% correct as well. In this life you need to be able to provide for yourself and your son should know that lesson. She's literally trying to teach him to avoid being some leech expecting handouts.

This is something Democrats would support tbh.
Hope one of your family members goes broke, get injured, mental health issues, get old, your kid have issues etc etc and ask that same question, why should they eat ( I don't really hope that)
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
Curious why some of you think eating is this basic right that should be given to you. What species gets to eat that can't provide for itself? Those animals starve off and die. Best case scenario is there's a pack that supports one another, but usually each member still brings value in some form or another that allows them to be a part of the benefits which includes eating.

I agree with her completely. Is it a bit cruel and callous to say it out loud? Yeah but she's 100% correct as well. In this life you need to be able to provide for yourself and your son should know that lesson. She's literally trying to teach him to avoid being some leech expecting handouts.

This is something Democrats would support tbh.
Hope one of your family members goes broke, gets injured, mental health issues, gets old, your kid has issues etc etc and ask that same question, why should they eat ( I don't really hope that)
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I had a bit of a mental breakdown maybe 10 years ago, stopped working and ended up going to a homeless shelter to live, I bummed for money a lot, I had no need for the money because there were places everywhere that gave out free meals, I used the money to buy Mcdonalds or buy tobacco, some people would call me lazy or yell at me to get a job and some even took money out of my cup (or whatever I happened to be using to get money) while I was sitting directly behind it, like they felt some kinda power surge because I was homeless and they weren't. The amount of homeless people I met that were legitimate lazy bums was staggering, a lot of them wanted to live the bum life bumming for money because it was easier than working, some of them did have mental illnesses and couldn't care for themselves though.
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Originally Posted By Nicklol
The way she worded that statement was very wrong

like she was talking about men struggling in general and dont deserve to eat if they dont figure their situation out
everyone is different. I got sick a few years ago and had to quit working for example.
If I didn't meet my gf, I don't know what would have happened cuz sht was fukd.

And other ppl just can't find work. Haven't searched for a while but like 1000 ppl are applying for random cashier jobs i'm sure

I don't even agree with giving them money either but the way she talked about men like that is the problem.
Though, if I had some pocket change on me, I have given them some in the past if they seem genuine and I see them around a lot.
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker
This also. A woman shouldn't be this masculine minded and jaded.
This is the opposite of masculine minded. The notion that men have no value and should starve unless they are laboring and providing resources is aFEMININEperspective.

Miscers are so tarded and brainwashed by (namely jewish) classist propaganda, they have adopted this view thinking it's stoicism lol. But it's not. A stoic man would strive to feed everyone.

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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
This is the opposite of masculine minded. The notion that men have no value and should starve unless they are laboring and providing resources is aFEMININEperspective.

Miscers are so tarded and brainwashed by (namely jewish) classist propaganda, they have adopted this view thinking it's stoicism lol. But it's not. A stoic man would strive to feed everyone.

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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
I guess the best thing to do is not communicate with your wife about it and instead post on a gay dying indian bodybuilding forum for some well-thought out, critically-formed, unbiased opinions.
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Forgiveness, Mercy, Compassion, Love.

It was given out of Mercy.

The disappointment I'd have is not that the wife chose not to have mercy, BUT to discourage the little one of giving mercy.

It is our responsibility to teach our children these things. There are volunteer groups that create bags for homeless. They include toothbrushes, soap, socks, other knick-knacks that help those who are homeless. We would then distribute them among the homeless. They were grateful. Take your kid to one.

When I had my kids, we did that through our local girl scout troop.
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37Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink? 38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39When did we see You sick or in prison and visit You?’

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Originally Posted By johnvee73
I had a bit of a mental breakdown maybe 10 years ago, stopped working and ended up going to a homeless shelter to live, I bummed for money a lot, I had no need for the money because there were places everywhere that gave out free meals, I used the money to buy Mcdonalds or buy tobacco, some people would call me lazy or yell at me to get a job and some even took money out of my cup (or whatever I happened to be using to get money) while I was sitting directly behind it, like they felt some kinda power surge because I was homeless and they weren't. The amount of homeless people I met that were legitimate lazy bums was staggering, a lot of them wanted to live the bum life bumming for money because it was easier than working, some of them did have mental illnesses and couldn't care for themselves though.
You went from homeless to having a place with socks drained with coom lying around all over the floor. Not sure which situation I'd prefer.
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I really can't tell if this is a troll thread or not

The situation in the OP sounds like the start of a curb your enthusiasm episode
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Originally Posted By Barteh
You went from homeless to having a place with socks drained with coom lying around all over the floor. Not sure which situation I'd prefer.
Being homeless may have been better actually.
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