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01-17-2023, 05:52 PM
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What makes this any different at all than me doing the normal form 1 that requires me to pay the $200?
You don't normally take what is legally a handgun, make 0 changes whatsoever, and suddenly it's legally an SBR and you better register or bye bye doggo
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01-17-2023, 05:53 PM
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A picture of the receiver serial number and manufacturer are a requirement for an SBR application. I've done them before lol.
Where does the ATF say that? I know several people who have form 1 SBR's and not a single one uploaded or sent photos of their receiver. Some people do it only to avoid the possibility of them asking and further delaying anything.
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Anyone who sends pics of a receiver transferred as a rifle with a short barrel and a brace is going to get fuking nailed. They will ask and people will send them unknowingly. It definitely will happen.
I'm sure it will. Any FFL who know what the fk they're doing will transfer receivers as other. Not rifle.
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01-17-2023, 05:55 PM
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You don't normally take what is legally a handgun, make 0 changes whatsoever, and suddenly it's legally an SBR and you better register or bye bye doggo
So again - what makes this any different for someone who already planned to form 1 for an SBR anyway?
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01-17-2023, 05:56 PM
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So again - what makes this any different for someone who already planned to form 1 for an SBR anyway?
Someone who already planned to SBR? No different.

Estimate on the number of braced pistol owners who intended to SBR their firearm in the next 4 months? I'd put the over/under at 1%
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01-17-2023, 06:00 PM
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Someone who already planned to SBR? No different.

Estimate on the number of braced pistol owners who intended to SBR their firearm in the next 4 months? I'd put the over/under at 1%
I'm not disagreeing. And like I already said - I might be upset too if I had ENVER planned to SBR my gun. But for someone who planned to already, this is no different at all other than it costs $0 instead of $200.
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01-17-2023, 06:01 PM
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I'm not disagreeing. And like I already said - I might be upset too if I had ENVER planned to SBR my gun. But for someone who planned to already, this is no different at all other than it costs $0 instead of $200.
Go for it and report back.

I have two registered title II receivers, kinda curious how it will go.
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01-17-2023, 06:16 PM
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There's absolutely nowhere on the new form 1 that says you MUST submit pictures. It says you MIGHT have to. Any time you do a form 1 there's a possibility they will ask you for pics of the receiver. This is literally no different.

Had one I already planned to SBR at some point anyway…why would I not buy $200 worth of ammo instead of going this route?

What makes this any different at all than me doing the normal form 1 that requires me to pay the $200?

End result is both an SBR stamp and both end with the gun being registered technically. Only difference is one costs me $0, and the other costs me $200.

Would me handing over $200 to pay for what should be a right anyway to own an SBR show how bad ass I am instead? I'm so confused as to why so many people aren't ok with this.

If you NEVER planned to SBR your gun, I guess I get it. You don't want it registered. (Even though you're already on a dozen government lists anyway, so I'm not sure why them knowing you have 1 matters.)
But for those of us who planned to SBR at some point anyway…why not?
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01-17-2023, 06:25 PM
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So apparently buying a brace or braced pistol now, or in the next 120ish days however many are left, it can not be registered for free.


"The tax forbearance only pertains to the firearms with an attached “stabilizing brace” in your
possession at the time the final rule is published."

So like the guy who got a great deal a couple days ago, etc, can't register for 'free'
That guy bought it the day before the rule came out and did the owner paperwork the day of. Not like it matters anyway
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01-17-2023, 06:42 PM
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That guy bought it the day before the rule came out and did the owner paperwork the day of. Not like it matters anyway
Depends on whether or not the ATF decides to carry I guess. It's written as possess, paying for it isn't possessing it. Just sayin', don't put anything past the AFT
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01-17-2023, 06:52 PM
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Depends on whether or not the ATF decides to carry I guess. It's written as possess, paying for it isn't possessing it. Just sayin', don't put anything past the AFT
There’s realistically no way they can really enforce it…
Maybe you had a friends brace on it before you bought your own. Maybe you found one on the side the road one day before you bought a new one. I mean, really…
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01-17-2023, 07:20 PM
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So again - what makes this any different for someone who already planned to form 1 for an SBR anyway?
This will be a different list, obviously. Not publicly. It's the same form. But they are clearly going to know who got on the free "I was cheating the system with the pistol brace" $0 fee list and who was on the normal "I play by the rules" $200 fee list.

So which group do you think will be randomly suspected of having oil filter suppressors and other "loophole" items worth visiting to inspect?
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01-17-2023, 07:30 PM
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There’s realistically no way they can really enforce it…
Maybe you had a friends brace on it before you bought your own. Maybe you found one on the side the road one day before you bought a new one. I mean, really…
In this case it would be you filled out the 4473 at the FFL after the release of the thing, but, overall, it's a massive dumbass cluster fuk of illegal unconstitutional impossibility and I hope even 1/4 of the pistol braces owned out there all file within the 120 days just to see what happens
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01-17-2023, 07:49 PM
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I’d be shocked if it’s even 1/4. I’d put the over under at 1/10
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01-17-2023, 07:56 PM
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01-17-2023, 08:01 PM
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I’d be shocked if it’s even 1/4. I’d put the over under at 1/10
Of course, 1/4 is kind of a pipe dream. Probably not even 1/4 will realize it's a thing the aft is telling them to do
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I’d be shocked if it’s even 1/4. I’d put the over under at 1/10
I would bet less than 1/10 hear about it. Unless you actively follow 2A groups on social media, it's not a thing making any news.

Here is my #1 question they nobody is asking-

What happens when people inevitably file the paperwork after the 120 day mark? You know people will hear about this late, not read the full details and send in their form 1 anyway. They are then basically certifying the fact they are committing a crime.
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01-17-2023, 08:10 PM
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glonk has served me well but ill finally let it rest when my m&p compact slide gets back from slidework.



What’s the deets on the new holos? They have new tech or just cosmetics? I should be getting my replacement holo tomorrow.
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Liberal govt: here's a rule change that only negatively effects law abiding conservatives.

Conservatives: yes daddy harder.

Lmao imagine liberals getting you to cuck yourself. They don't have to do anything to win you will just roll over.

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Liberal govt: here's a rule change that only negatively effects law abiding conservatives.

Conservatives: yes daddy harder.

Lmao imagine liberals getting you to cuck yourself. They don't have to do anything to win you will just roll over.

Good thing I ended up selling all the ar pistols I had. Don't have to worry about it.
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01-18-2023, 03:47 AM
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Where does the ATF say that? I know several people who have form 1 SBR's and not a single one uploaded or sent photos of their receiver. Some people do it only to avoid the possibility of them asking and further delaying anything.
You do realize if you don't upload pics and they decide they want them, they deny you application and you go to the back of the line. You have to start all over again, fingerprints and everything. And hopefully that happens within their cucking 120 days.

Trust me, I've been denied on a SBR Form 1. They make you start all over again even with the slightest error.


Don't take the "free sBr sTaMp!" bait they are fishing with bro.
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Conservatives: yes daddy harder.

Lmao imagine liberals getting you to cuck yourself. They don't have to do anything to win you will just roll over.

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