05-13-2023, 06:40 PM
#2191
Originally Posted By Omnivium⏩
I have a Boss GT1 running through 2 Blackstar ID core 100s in stereo. It's a decent unit for a couple hundred dollars. I guess it depends on what you plan on doing with it. I just noodle around at home. It serves that purpose well for me.
Anyone here use a multi effects pedal instead of an amp? I hear the line 6 helix is good but I'm not trying to spend $1200 so I'm looking at the line 6 pod go
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05-14-2023, 12:36 AM
#2192
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
That applies to most guitars. John Suhr didn't build your Suhr.
If you drop $8K+ and get in line you can have a guitar he's done the frets on
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I'm glad you're happy with the guitar but if I'm being honest still can't get over paying that much for a guitar
made by someone who didn't dedicate his life towards building electric guitars
. And even then that's an absurd amount of money to pay imo.
These days a lot of the work is already done by a CNC. Parts are cut and routed. Fret slots are cut. Holes are drilled. It moves through a production line. Some people working there have a lot of experience but for the most part a business is not going to be at the mercy of skilled luthiers who demand a higher salary and could leave at any time to do their own thing, so they build a business around staff who are trained up to do one task reliably. Paint, frets, and final assembly require more skill but your guitar isn't in the hands of a skilled luthier caressing your neck in his workshop sipping on wine as the sun goes down.
Look up what Fender staff are paid. Some of them earn less than kids here working at McDonald's.
05-14-2023, 06:19 AM
#2193
Spend your money how ever the fukk you want to
No ragrets
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05-14-2023, 06:41 AM
#2194
Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
Even more reasons not to pay that much for guitars. The price of custom shop and boutique guitars has gotten retarded.
That applies to most guitars. John Suhr didn't build your Suhr.
If you drop $8K+ and get in line you can have a guitar he's done the frets on
.
These days a lot of the work is already done by a CNC. Parts are cut and routed. Fret slots are cut. Holes are drilled. It moves through a production line. Some people working there have a lot of experience but for the most part a business is not going to be at the mercy of skilled luthiers who demand a higher salary and could leave at any time to do their own thing, so they build a business around staff who are trained up to do one task reliably. Paint, frets, and final assembly require more skill but your guitar isn't in the hands of a skilled luthier caressing your neck in his workshop sipping on wine as the sun goes down.
Look up what Fender staff are paid. Some of them earn less than kids here working at McDonald's.
These days a lot of the work is already done by a CNC. Parts are cut and routed. Fret slots are cut. Holes are drilled. It moves through a production line. Some people working there have a lot of experience but for the most part a business is not going to be at the mercy of skilled luthiers who demand a higher salary and could leave at any time to do their own thing, so they build a business around staff who are trained up to do one task reliably. Paint, frets, and final assembly require more skill but your guitar isn't in the hands of a skilled luthier caressing your neck in his workshop sipping on wine as the sun goes down.
Look up what Fender staff are paid. Some of them earn less than kids here working at McDonald's.
IMO production Suhrs are not worth $4K. USA Charvels are not worth $4K. Don't even get me started on Fenders. Or Gibsons. Chit is ridiculous.
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05-14-2023, 07:06 AM
#2195
Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
Agree with this.
Spend your money how ever the fukk you want to
No ragrets
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I've spent a lot on stuff that makes maybe 5% of a difference and I'm not a professional musician.
George Lynch turns 70 next year. Those guitars might be worth a lot of money one day but it shouldn't even be about that. If it makes you happy and you can afford it, go for it.
05-14-2023, 07:35 AM
#2196
Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
I just don't share that same philosophy, when it comes to this sort of stuff I need proportionate applicable value. There is no way $7000 for a standard solid body electric makes sense to me. But that's just me.
Agree with this.
I've spent a lot on stuff that makes maybe 5% of a difference and I'm not a professional musician.
George Lynch turns 70 next year. Those guitars might be worth a lot of money one day but it shouldn't even be about that. If it makes you happy and you can afford it, go for it.
I've spent a lot on stuff that makes maybe 5% of a difference and I'm not a professional musician.
George Lynch turns 70 next year. Those guitars might be worth a lot of money one day but it shouldn't even be about that. If it makes you happy and you can afford it, go for it.
Perhaps from a collectors point of view it makes more sense but for a non-collecting normie to buy one is almost shocking to me.
Now this might sound like criticism, but it's not. It's actual curiosity in the thought process behind it.
Soda explained that it has more to do with him being a huge fan, and if that's the value he gets out of it then that's fair enough.
But I wouldn't spend more than $2500 on any electric solid body guitar ever.
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05-14-2023, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I don't think I would either although when I see working musicians with vintage guitars worth more than most cars I can understand why they buy/loan them. They're not making any more '59 LP bursts. Likewise George Lynch can only build so many guitars from scratch so they're bound to go up in value especially with each one being unique.
But I wouldn't spend more than $2500 on any electric solid body guitar ever.
My daily driver is pretty much line ball to 60 with a Huracan. Can I understand why someone would want the Lambo? Do I think it's worth the extra dough? Absolutely, but I personally wouldn't want to deal with the extra hassle and stress of owning it. Roads are garbage here and car spaces seem to be shrinking so it'd be a track only purchase. Of course when I see one I can admire it and I completely understand why someone who can afford it would drive one.
That same logic applies to guitars and amps. I like every Suhr I see posted on TGP but I'll probably never own one for the simple reason I prefer a partscaster workhorse where I'm not going to care about every scratch and dent plus I enjoy working on it. And someone who's content with a 2mm action doesn't need immaculate fretwork.
05-14-2023, 08:31 AM
#2198
Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
Yeah but lambos have a lot more to offer over cheaper cars than that lynch guitar does over cheaper guitars. The lynch guitar really offers nothing else but the name.
I don't think I would either although when I see working musicians with vintage guitars worth more than most cars I can understand why they buy/loan them. They're not making any more '59 LP bursts. Likewise George Lynch can only build so many guitars from scratch so they're bound to go up in value especially with each one being unique.
My daily driver is pretty much line ball to 60 with a Huracan. Can I understand why someone would want the Lambo? Do I think it's worth the extra dough? Absolutely, but I personally wouldn't want to deal with the extra hassle and stress of owning it. Roads are garbage here and car spaces seem to be shrinking so it'd be a track only purchase. Of course when I see one I can admire it and I completely understand why someone who can afford it would drive one.
That same logic applies to guitars and amps. I like every Suhr I see posted on TGP but I'll probably never own one for the simple reason I prefer a partscaster workhorse where I'm not going to care about every scratch and dent plus I enjoy working on it. And someone who's content with a 2mm action doesn't need immaculate fretwork.
My daily driver is pretty much line ball to 60 with a Huracan. Can I understand why someone would want the Lambo? Do I think it's worth the extra dough? Absolutely, but I personally wouldn't want to deal with the extra hassle and stress of owning it. Roads are garbage here and car spaces seem to be shrinking so it'd be a track only purchase. Of course when I see one I can admire it and I completely understand why someone who can afford it would drive one.
That same logic applies to guitars and amps. I like every Suhr I see posted on TGP but I'll probably never own one for the simple reason I prefer a partscaster workhorse where I'm not going to care about every scratch and dent plus I enjoy working on it. And someone who's content with a 2mm action doesn't need immaculate fretwork.
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05-14-2023, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
After checking out a few $1000+ guitars, I wasn't thrilled with the QC and playability. Besides the actual parts used they seemed the same as $500 and below guitars. So I've been buying and working on lower priced guitars and they're always pretty solid players. Hell, I got a cheap Jackson new for $220 on sale. Neck and body were good. Polished the frets, upgraded most of the parts on the cheap Floyd, new tuners, and full set up. I can't even really knock it out of tune. The pickups aren't great, but I change those out on the next string change.
I just don't share that same philosophy, when it comes to this sort of stuff I need proportionate applicable value. There is no way $7000 for a standard solid body electric makes sense to me. But that's just me.
Perhaps from a collectors point of view it makes more sense but for a non-collecting normie to buy one is almost shocking to me.
Now this might sound like criticism, but it's not. It's actual curiosity in the thought process behind it.
Soda explained that it has more to do with him being a huge fan, and if that's the value he gets out of it then that's fair enough.
But I wouldn't spend more than $2500 on any electric solid body guitar ever.
Perhaps from a collectors point of view it makes more sense but for a non-collecting normie to buy one is almost shocking to me.
Now this might sound like criticism, but it's not. It's actual curiosity in the thought process behind it.
Soda explained that it has more to do with him being a huge fan, and if that's the value he gets out of it then that's fair enough.
But I wouldn't spend more than $2500 on any electric solid body guitar ever.
In my opinion, learning to work on guitars is probably the best thing someone could do. On cheaper guitars, as long as the neck, frets, and body are good there's not much you can't fix or upgrade yourself.
05-14-2023, 08:39 AM
#2200
Originally Posted By badger6⏩
Yeah I think there is a lot that can be done in terms of modding and upgrading.
After checking out a few $1000+ guitars, I wasn't thrilled with the QC and playability. Besides the actual parts used they seemed the same as $500 and below guitars. So I've been buying and working on lower priced guitars and they're always pretty solid players. Hell, I got a cheap Jackson new for $220 on sale. Neck and body were good. Polished the frets, upgraded most of the parts on the cheap Floyd, new tuners, and full set up. I can't even really knock it out of tune. The pickups aren't great, but I change those out on the next string change.
In my opinion, learning to work on guitars is probably the best thing someone could do. On cheaper guitars, as long as the neck, frets, and body are good there's not much you can't fix or upgrade yourself.
In my opinion, learning to work on guitars is probably the best thing someone could do. On cheaper guitars, as long as the neck, frets, and body are good there's not much you can't fix or upgrade yourself.
In terms of $1000 guitars, there’s a lot of chitty ones surprisingly. Lot of those $1000 MIM Charvels were pretty crappy imo. Moral of the story? Pay either below $1000 or around $1700-$2500 for a new electric solid body guitar lol.
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05-14-2023, 08:51 AM
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After selling 3 guitars I now have 7. Do I need 7? I've thought about selling a few and buying a fender custom shop or from the fender mod shop, but I kind of like having a few lower priced to mid priced guitars. Some of which are partscasters but those that are, are exactly like I want them after tweaking and tinkering with them, and it's fun to do.
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05-14-2023, 09:26 AM
#2202
Originally Posted By badger6⏩
What he said. Trying different pickups, wiring mods, doing your own setups… feels good man.
In my opinion, learning to work on guitars is probably the best thing someone could do. On cheaper guitars, as long as the neck, frets, and body are good there's not much you can't fix or upgrade yourself.
I've posted this before. I'm not a fan of plastic on guitars and was tired of popping the trem cover off to adjust the claw but didn't like how it looked back there which was like this. I cleaned it up with some beefier parts that didn't feel like recycled Coke cans, eliminated all noise from the springs, and it's much better than stock.
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05-14-2023, 09:35 AM
#2203
Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
Fender custom shop guitars seem, to me, wildly over-priced. I would probably be too afraid to take it out of its case other than for special occasions lol.
After selling 3 guitars I now have 7. Do I need 7? I've thought about selling a few and buying a fender custom shop or from the fender mod shop, but I kind of like having a few lower priced to mid priced guitars. Some of which are partscasters but those that are, are exactly like I want them after tweaking and tinkering with them, and it's fun to do.
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05-14-2023, 09:37 AM
#2204
Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
What happens if there is no ground wire connected to the bridge? Is it dangerous in terms of electric shocks?
What he said. Trying different pickups, wiring mods, doing your own setups… feels good man.
I've posted this before. I'm not a fan of plastic on guitars and was tired of popping the trem cover off to adjust the claw but didn't like how it looked back there which was like this. I cleaned it up with some beefier parts that didn't feel like recycled Coke cans, eliminated all noise from the springs, and it's much better than stock.
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I've posted this before. I'm not a fan of plastic on guitars and was tired of popping the trem cover off to adjust the claw but didn't like how it looked back there which was like this. I cleaned it up with some beefier parts that didn't feel like recycled Coke cans, eliminated all noise from the springs, and it's much better than stock.
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05-14-2023, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
Yeah, I have 7 too. 6 electrics and one acoustic that I rarely pickup. Got a disassembled Kramer that I'm working on now. The pro to having a bunch of guitars is that I can get away with changing strings and setting them up only once every 8-10 months or so because they all get some use. The con to having a bunch of guitars is that you have to change strings and set them ALL up eventually. Do you have any acoustic guitars? If so do you ever play them?
After selling 3 guitars I now have 7. Do I need 7? I've thought about selling a few and buying a fender custom shop or from the fender mod shop, but I kind of like having a few lower priced to mid priced guitars. Some of which are partscasters but those that are, are exactly like I want them after tweaking and tinkering with them, and it's fun to do.
05-14-2023, 09:44 AM
#2206
Originally Posted By badger6⏩
I had 2 acoustics that I never played so I sold those about 2 years ago. Also sold a couple old Kramer's.
Yeah, I have 7 too. 6 electrics and one acoustic that I rarely pickup. Got a disassembled Kramer that I'm working on now. The pro to having a bunch of guitars is that I can get away with changing strings and setting them up only once every 8-10 months or so because they all get some use. The con to having a bunch of guitars is that you have to change strings and set them ALL up eventually. Do you have any acoustic guitars? If so do you ever play them?
What's the Kramer you're working on?
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05-14-2023, 09:45 AM
#2207
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
No danger. Just a lot more buzzing usually
What happens if there is no ground wire connected to the bridge? Is it dangerous in terms of electric shocks?
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05-14-2023, 09:47 AM
#2208
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
You get noise. You ground the instrument by touching the strings. Pickups have a ground wire, you ground the pots, you ground everything via the bridge and output jack sleeve, ideally shielding the cavity and cover so it creates a Faraday cage. My JS is the quietest guitar I've played because I went full OCD on grounding and shielding. Some manufacturers use conductive paint. I found that stuff to be crap and prefer the 3M copper foil.
What happens if there is no ground wire connected to the bridge? Is it dangerous in terms of electric shocks?
05-14-2023, 09:58 AM
#2209
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
They are expensive
Fender custom shop guitars seem, to me, wildly over-priced. I would probably be too afraid to take it out of its case other than for special occasions lol.
Just take all the hard objects out of the room before taking it out of the case
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05-14-2023, 10:06 AM
#2210
Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
Yeah, saw a good deal on this Yamaha a couple years ago. But it just sits there and never gets any love lol
I had 2 acoustics that I never played so I sold those about 2 years ago. Also sold a couple old Kramer's.
What's the Kramer you're working on?
What's the Kramer you're working on?
The Kramer I'm working on is just a cheap Baretta Special. I got a cheap floyd and upgraded it with all stainless steel and brass. Scraped all the finish of the fingerboard so it will get all nasty looking after a year or two. I still need to get some Gotoh tuners, drill the studs and mount the lock nut. Then decide what pickup I want to put in there. I'm thinking I'll put a JB in there. Maybe an EMG super 77
I still have these Kramer necks I've had sitting around for 30+ years. I bought them when Kramer had their fire sale in the '90-92 range. I'm still trying to figure out what actual guitar they were made for?
05-14-2023, 10:10 AM
#2211
Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
Those Shijie guitars shilled by your favorite Phillip McShill and Darrel Braun have that copper foil nicely lined in the internals of their guitars.
You get noise. You ground the instrument by touching the strings. Pickups have a ground wire, you ground the pots, you ground everything via the bridge and output jack sleeve, ideally shielding the cavity and cover so it creates a Faraday cage. My JS is the quietest guitar I've played because I went full OCD on grounding and shielding. Some manufacturers use conductive paint. I found that stuff to be crap and prefer the 3M copper foil.
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05-14-2023, 10:11 AM
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What amp is Andy Wood using at 0:22 of this video? I love the clean tone.
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05-14-2023, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
It's not hard to do.
Those Shijie guitars shilled by your favorite Phillip McShill and Darrel Braun have that copper foil nicely lined in the internals of their guitars.
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Look's like he's plugged into Troy's Cornford Hellcat. I always thought those Cornford amps sounded amazing. Richie Kotzen used to play one.
What amp is Andy Wood using at 0:22 of this video? I love the clean tone.
Just my 2c on clean tones — with a really dynamic amp, low wind pickups, dialing in some dirt and playing with the right touch actually produces the best clean tones.
05-14-2023, 10:44 AM
#2214
Originally Posted By badger6⏩
That color is very similar to the pointy headstock Baretta I had. I would guess those necks were maybe for a model that was never released? I haven't seen too many with the white headstock
Yeah, saw a good deal on this Yamaha a couple years ago. But it just sits there and never gets any love lol
The Kramer I'm working on is just a cheap Baretta Special. I got a cheap floyd and upgraded it with all stainless steel and brass. Scraped all the finish of the fingerboard so it will get all nasty looking after a year or two. I still need to get some Gotoh tuners, drill the studs and mount the lock nut. Then decide what pickup I want to put in there. I'm thinking I'll put a JB in there. Maybe an EMG super 77
I still have these Kramer necks I've had sitting around for 30+ years. I bought them when Kramer had their fire sale in the '90-92 range. I'm still trying to figure out what actual guitar they were made for?
The Kramer I'm working on is just a cheap Baretta Special. I got a cheap floyd and upgraded it with all stainless steel and brass. Scraped all the finish of the fingerboard so it will get all nasty looking after a year or two. I still need to get some Gotoh tuners, drill the studs and mount the lock nut. Then decide what pickup I want to put in there. I'm thinking I'll put a JB in there. Maybe an EMG super 77
I still have these Kramer necks I've had sitting around for 30+ years. I bought them when Kramer had their fire sale in the '90-92 range. I'm still trying to figure out what actual guitar they were made for?
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05-14-2023, 10:48 AM
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Listen to what Andy Timmons is doing from around 4:30 in. He can seamlessly switch from distorted to clean tones because it's the same tone. It doesn't sound sterile. The pick attack is more pronounced with a bit more gain but the tone is so dynamic you think it's clean but it's not. His neck pickup is actually a stacked humbucker. The secret is in his volume control — his tone is darker but the treble bleed cuts all the mud only it's the right value so it doesn't kill all the mids.
05-14-2023, 11:45 AM
#2216
Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
The one on the left has a white headstock. And the one on the right is more of a cream off white. Dot inlays and no binding. Guess I need to do some research if I want to put together a build of something period correct.
That color is very similar to the pointy headstock Baretta I had. I would guess those necks were maybe for a model that was never released? I haven't seen too many with the white headstock
05-14-2023, 12:09 PM
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I thought I was done with buying guitars for a couple months but now I've been watching vids of the Squire classic vibe bass VI
The thing is fukking crazy, tuned an octave lower than a standard guitar
The thing is fukking crazy, tuned an octave lower than a standard guitar
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05-14-2023, 12:10 PM
#2218
Originally Posted By badger6⏩
Whatever they are they are pretty cool
The one on the left has a white headstock. And the one on the right is more of a cream off white. Dot inlays and no binding. Guess I need to do some research if I want to put together a build of something period correct.
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05-14-2023, 01:35 PM
#2219
Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
And yet like no manufactures do the copper foil thing other than Shijie. Lazy bastardos.
It's not hard to do.
Look's like he's plugged into Troy's Cornford Hellcat. I always thought those Cornford amps sounded amazing. Richie Kotzen used to play one.
Just my 2c on clean tones — with a really dynamic amp, low wind pickups, dialing in some dirt and playing with the right touch actually produces the best clean tones.
Look's like he's plugged into Troy's Cornford Hellcat. I always thought those Cornford amps sounded amazing. Richie Kotzen used to play one.
Just my 2c on clean tones — with a really dynamic amp, low wind pickups, dialing in some dirt and playing with the right touch actually produces the best clean tones.
Does Cornford even exist anymore?
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05-14-2023, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
They went out of business 10 years ago. Made in the UK with point to point wiring on turret boards like the early Marshalls.
Does Cornford even exist anymore?
Martin Kidd from Cornford started Victory amps which is where Guthrie, Kotzen, etc. ended up.
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