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07-11-2023, 08:16 AM
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i'm buying one of these 5 watt 1x12 laney combo amps



so then I can jam in different room other than my bedroom where my digital amp is
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07-11-2023, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By 7empest
i'm buying one of these 5 watt 1x12 laney combo amps

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so then I can jam in different room other than my bedroom where my digital amp is
Lol what is this late 80s garbage
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07-11-2023, 08:51 AM
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had a bad flood a few months back- woke up to 15" of water in my finished basement, even with 2 sump pumps going. almost all of my guitars took some water on. They were all in the cases floating around like little boats.

Emotionally devastating to say the least. All of my electrics took have some serious finish checking, but surprisingly all the electronics work fine and they're playable. the Neck on my 79 LP custom twisted but it's fixable.

My acoustics were a different story- bracing let go, tops warped…. they're fixable, but 1000+ each, and who knows how well they'd hold up after. At this point I'd rather put that money towards a new one.

I really want a Gibby SJ200, but holy fuk they're expensive, plus I never see any around for sale that I can try out. Taylor has some really nice models, I test drove a 424ce the weekend that was dope, plus they have a BOGO deal right now where you can add on a travel size or a 3/4 mini for 100-200 bucks extra if you buy a 200 series or better….

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07-11-2023, 10:21 AM
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Emotionally devastating to say the least. My acoustics were a different story- bracing let go, tops warped…. they're fixable, but 1000+ each, and who knows how well they'd hold up after. At this pointAt this point I'd rather put that money towards a new one . so much to consider
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I'm 'devastated' hearing your story.

I agree….I'd go with replacement based on you statement above.

Good luck on your decision.

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07-11-2023, 12:17 PM
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Lol what is this late 80s garbage
great amp srs
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07-11-2023, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted By 7empest
i'm buying one of these 5 watt 1x12 laney combo amps



so then I can jam in different room other than my bedroom where my digital amp is
5 watts is still loud!
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07-11-2023, 02:53 PM
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5 watts is still loud!
yeah brah

will I be able to get it loud enough to play with a drummer do you think?
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07-11-2023, 02:58 PM
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yeah brah

will I be able to get it loud enough to play with a drummer do you think?
Yes.
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07-11-2023, 03:13 PM
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Yes.
amazing ty brah. i've only played digital besides SS practice amps
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07-11-2023, 03:33 PM
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amazing ty brah. i've only played digital besides SS practice amps
I have a feeling you'll love it.

I bet it'll make for a good pedal platform too
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07-11-2023, 04:05 PM
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I have a feeling you'll love it.

I bet it'll make for a good pedal platform too
nice one dude, thanks

yeah I think it would. I think I'll get one
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07-11-2023, 05:10 PM
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nice one dude, thanks

yeah I think it would. I think I'll get one
Fender Champs are another very popular 5w amp. I haven't played one of those either, but I kinda want one.
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07-12-2023, 01:20 AM
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Fender Champs are another very popular 5w amp. I haven't played one of those either, but I kinda want one.
nice, yeah I like the idea of getting a fender but I also do want to be able to get high gain lead, and I've heard Fenders kinda lack that
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07-12-2023, 01:11 PM
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nice, yeah I like the idea of getting a fender but I also do want to be able to get high gain lead, and I've heard Fenders kinda lack that
Hence why pedals were created. A decent boost or drive pedal with a Fender is often all you need.

Some amps sound good at higher gain but their clean channel is garbage. Of course you could always run two amps with a switcher .

My signal chain: Boost > Drive (tube preamp) > Delay > ACS1* (Fender) > Fender cabinet

*Could be easily substituted for a Fender amp but the pedal sounds close enough at the volume I play at *Could be easily substituted for a Fender amp but the pedal sounds close enough at the volume I play at
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07-12-2023, 01:43 PM
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Hence why pedals were created. A decent boost or drive pedal with a Fender is often all you need.

Some amps sound good at higher gain but their clean channel is garbage. Of course you could always run two amps with a switcher .

My signal chain: Boost > Drive (tube preamp) > Delay > ACS1* (Fender) > Fender cabinet

*Could be easily substituted for a Fender amp but the pedal sounds close enough at the volume I play at *Could be easily substituted for a Fender amp but the pedal sounds close enough at the volume I play at
My approach to tone has changed. I used to run though Marshalls or Laney's. and the clean tone always suffered.Now I start with the best clean tone I can dial up and use a OD, distortion or fuzz combo to get the dirt I need.
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07-12-2023, 11:03 PM
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yeah brah

will I be able to get it loud enough to play with a drummer do you think?

Really? The drummer I played with (now a well known session musician - he is the drummer for Plini) played pretty fiercely and I had to have my 100 watt Marshall cranked at absolute full blast just to hear my playing over him.

You really think 5 watts will cut it?
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07-13-2023, 05:17 PM
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Any of you guys have a chance to try one of the new Kramer Nightswans? I'm kinda wanting one lol
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07-13-2023, 09:32 PM
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Any of you guys have a chance to try one of the new Kramer Nightswans? I'm kinda wanting one lol


As am I. I think they're on sale at a specialist guitar store a few hrs drive up north, going for $1400 brand new. Great price. You can see the clip I posted earlier of the Kramer Baretta, even though it's cheaper it still sounds great with the right setup.


Glad to see Kramer making a gradual comeback, hugely underrated brand. I'd like to see them pushed for modern metal, too, to mix up the monopoly ESP and Schecter have on the market.
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07-17-2023, 03:03 AM
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As am I. I think they're on sale at a specialist guitar store a few hrs drive up north, going for $1400 brand new. Great price. You can see the clip I posted earlier of the Kramer Baretta, even though it's cheaper it still sounds great with the right setup.


Glad to see Kramer making a gradual comeback, hugely underrated brand. I'd like to see them pushed for modern metal, too, to mix up the monopoly ESP and Schecter have on the market.
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07-17-2023, 06:12 AM
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Lol what is this late 80s garbage


Please. I wish I still had some of those amps.

I had Gallien Kruger and Ampeg tube amps with amazing tone that put anything made today, with all their fancy bullchit to shame.

Amp simulators get it about 75% right.
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07-17-2023, 08:10 AM
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Really? The drummer I played with (now a well known session musician - he is the drummer for Plini) played pretty fiercely and I had to have my 100 watt Marshall cranked at absolute full blast just to hear my playing over him.

You really think 5 watts will cut it?
5 tube watts is loud.
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07-17-2023, 10:52 AM
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Please. I wish I still had some of those amps.

I had Gallien Kruger and Ampeg tube amps with amazing tone that put anything made today, with all their fancy bullchit to shame.

Amp simulators get it about 75% right.
Gallien Kruger and Ampeg? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I'll take a Tonex or FM3 over a Gallien Kruger or Ampeg any day or the week, year, month, century, epoch. Next thing this guy will be reminiscing about the amazing tones he got out of his Crate practice amp.
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07-17-2023, 11:08 AM
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Crate practice amp.
You're not old enough to remember Gorilla. That was real tone.

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07-17-2023, 11:11 AM
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You're not old enough to remember Gorilla. That was real tone.

Lmao I demand Fractal Audio to model this amp immediately
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I'll take a Tonex or FM3 over a Gallien Kruger or Ampeg any day or the week, year, month, century, epoch. Next thing this guy will be reminiscing about the amazing tones he got out of his Crate practice amp.
It reminds me of film vs. digital 20 years ago. Once 24mp+ CMOS sensors were affordable it was hard to make a case for film and when 100mp medium format arrived the only reason to use film would be nostalgia. Axe FX III is that 100mp camera.

I've got a Walrus ACS1 on my board which does a Fender Deluxe Reverb and I go into a real Fender cabinet. Now if I had a Fender amp to plug into I'd just switch the pedal off. Best of both worlds. I don't have to worry about replacing and biasing power tubes. I agree with you gear has evolved and it's hard to make a case for that 80s gear. I still have a soft spot for 80s and 90s rack gear from Lexicon and Eventide. Most guitarists from that era are now using a Fractal to get those sounds but I'd still rather use those racks. They're just stupidly expensive now and difficult to repair.

Edit: 2 minutes in. This Aussie gets it.

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07-17-2023, 11:56 AM
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You're not old enough to remember Gorilla. That was real tone.

I had one as my first amp. I didn't know crap about anything at the time but I remember guys I knew who been playing a while loved the sound of it
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07-17-2023, 12:00 PM
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I had one as my first amp. I didn't know crap about anything at the time but I remember guys I knew who been playing a while loved the sound of it
My first amp was a Peavey Rage. Ridiculously loud for what it was + can of bees distortion. Indestructible.

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It reminds me of film vs. digital 20 years ago. Once 24mp+ CMOS sensors were affordable it was hard to make a case for film and when 100mp medium format arrived the only reason to use film would be nostalgia. Axe FX III is that 100mp camera.

I've got a Walrus ACS1 on my board which does a Fender Deluxe Reverb and I go into a real Fender cabinet. Now if I had a Fender amp to plug into I'd just switch the pedal off. Best of both worlds. I don't have to worry about replacing and biasing power tubes. I agree with you gear has evolved and it's hard to make a case for that 80s gear. I still have a soft spot for 80s and 90s rack gear from Lexicon and Eventide. Most guitarists from that era are now using a Fractal to get those sounds but I'd still rather use those racks. They're just stupidly expensive now and difficult to repair.

Edit: 2 minutes in. This Aussie gets it.



<3 Leon Todd.


Here, he does a solo over a synthwave song, and uses Axe-FX to nail an absolutely mogging tone:




This is the ultimate argument for going digital right here in this vid, IMO.
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<3 Leon Todd.


Here, he does a solo over a synthwave song, and uses Axe-FX to nail an absolutely mogging tone:




This is the ultimate argument for going digital right here in this vid, IMO.
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<3 Leon Todd.

Here, he does a solo over a synthwave song, and uses Axe-FX to nail an absolutely mogging tone:



This is the ultimate argument for going digital right here in this vid, IMO.
Our Aussie mate loves his slow wide vibrato. He knows the Fractal stuff inside out so it's no surprise he gets great tones but you can tell he loves all the analog/tube gear as well.

My 2 cents — digital is incredible for clean and high gain tones. Where the real thing has the edge is at low gain, "edge of breakup," etc, but getting great tones at low volume can be a challenge. I do most of my playing late at night and I don't want to piss off the neighbours. And loading down a tube amp is no free lunch since you're going to burn through power tubes much faster and that's $200 plus in local money for a matched quad set of EL34s. Unless you feel comfortable biasing the amp that's more money for a tech to do it.

Go back to the 80s and great tone cost big bucks. When Vai joined DLR band he needed to loan some Marshalls from Steve Stevens because his Carvin rig wasn't cutting it. Today everyone on youtube and instagram can dial in those kinds of tones at bedroom volume. Don't need to know anything about speakers and miking cabinets.
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