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01-29-2023, 05:32 PM
#2341
Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Name one gun that can do all I mentioned above better? None. that fps I stated was out of a 10.3 which is perfect. 2200-2400 is ideal for that shell and load and wrecks havoc. Absolutely does not defeat the purpose…that IS one of the purposes.
Everything 300 blk does well, something else does better. To get that 2400 fps, you're running a 16" bbl, which defeats the point of the gun. You're not fighting your way in to/out of an area requiring supers and using subs in the area to perform a quiet hit with a full auto rifle, which is what 300 was designed for.
300 has worse overpen concerns compared to 5.56, particularly if you miss, so watch your shooting lanes if that's your hd choice.
Meanwhile you're paying 60 cpr for trash ammo so you're shooting less. 300 blk is a trap.
300 has worse overpen concerns compared to 5.56, particularly if you miss, so watch your shooting lanes if that's your hd choice.
Meanwhile you're paying 60 cpr for trash ammo so you're shooting less. 300 blk is a trap.
You can absolutely use supers and subs to do what you need to do. Supers good out to 300. Subs for quiet out to 100 or a bit more. No need for full auto either but if you want it you can do it.
That load I talked about being prime pen’d 12” and started to frag 2” in which is absolutely perfect. it comes down to the pill and the load And the 300blk can literally do it all. If I want 300+ ya I’ll grab a different gun…and it wouldn’t be a 556
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01-29-2023, 06:13 PM
#2342
Blue states are trash
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01-29-2023, 07:53 PM
#2343
Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
Okay, so, you're building a 16" .300 blk. Throw a silencer and some subs on (better really be sub cause 16" barrel) and now there is a silencer hanging off the front too…how much shooting have you done with a silencer on the front of a 16" barrel?
Disagree. 300blk is extremely versatile. And extremely portable. Plus it’s all about the pill used and the fill/velocity. I saw ballistic gel/chron of a 110 v-max at 2200-2400 absolutely raging havoc for the 100-200 range mark. Use another recipe for 300+. Throw a silencer and some subs and you have what amounts to a .45 for home defense/close quarters with much better aero and in an AR performance out to 100+. Switch it up again and get some Barnes tac-tx and go hunt white tails, mule deer etx. Throw a silencer on and go shoot up some bacon that never saw it coming.
556 ya it can stretch out further. Who cares. If I want 300yrds plus I’m using another caliber. put a silencer on it and some subs and you can kill some squirrels….maybe.
At the end of the day it’s all about what you want to use your firearm for and what fits that bill best for your needs. Everyone have their personal preference…doesn’t mean any of the calibers are wrong.
556 ya it can stretch out further. Who cares. If I want 300yrds plus I’m using another caliber. put a silencer on it and some subs and you can kill some squirrels….maybe.
At the end of the day it’s all about what you want to use your firearm for and what fits that bill best for your needs. Everyone have their personal preference…doesn’t mean any of the calibers are wrong.
But yes you are right you can have what amounts to a handgun (.45 ACP) except it costs way more money and is way longer and less maneuverable
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01-29-2023, 07:58 PM
#2344
Originally Posted By bluebeltATT⏩
100%. Come and take it
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01-29-2023, 08:05 PM
#2345
Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
one of the least versatile.
300blk is extremely versatile.
01-29-2023, 08:08 PM
#2346
i want an AR pistol, you can use them on handgun hunts here. theres a handgun elk hunt im thinking about. 300blk that mfr
01-29-2023, 08:43 PM
#2347
Thoroughly explains how versatile.
> least versatile
> I want one…to shoot elk…with a pistol.
Just lol’d @ mashed potato brains
FYI…mine is a “pistol” I think. Maybe not. Rules change too much. Sorry ATF
> least versatile
> I want one…to shoot elk…with a pistol.
Just lol’d @ mashed potato brains
FYI…mine is a “pistol” I think. Maybe not. Rules change too much. Sorry ATF
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01-29-2023, 08:52 PM
#2348
Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
Yes you explained you can build a 16"+can for home defense that's basically a .45 handgun but five times longer. yay?
Thoroughly explains how versatile.
> least versatile
> I want one…to shoot elk…with a pistol.
Just lol’d @ mashed potato brains
FYI…mine is a “pistol” I think. Maybe not. Rules change too much. Sorry ATF
> least versatile
> I want one…to shoot elk…with a pistol.
Just lol’d @ mashed potato brains
FYI…mine is a “pistol” I think. Maybe not. Rules change too much. Sorry ATF
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01-29-2023, 08:57 PM
#2349
Wuttt. Said nothing about 16”s.
Let’s see that .45 handgun shoot to 100+ yards with ballisticS/aero of a 300 shell and effectiveness of an AR yay?
Then do everything else on the list
Let’s see that .45 handgun shoot to 100+ yards with ballisticS/aero of a 300 shell and effectiveness of an AR yay?
Then do everything else on the list
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01-30-2023, 04:43 AM
#2350
Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
If you want to shoot a whopping 100 yards (lol) with the effectiveness of an AR, just use an AR in 556.
Wuttt. Said nothing about 16”s.
Let’s see that .45 handgun shoot to 100+ yards with ballisticS/aero of a 300 shell and effectiveness of an AR yay?
Then do everything else on the list
Let’s see that .45 handgun shoot to 100+ yards with ballisticS/aero of a 300 shell and effectiveness of an AR yay?
Then do everything else on the list
An AR in 556 has effectiveness of an AR for home defense as well. You know what does not have the effectiveness of an AR for home defense? A .45 ACP aka 300 blk sub
Link to chrono test that that bullet/FPS in a short barrel?
I'm seeing like 1900 BTW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-nYHfnUzM
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01-30-2023, 05:13 AM
#2351
If we're talking shooting soft targets (deer in this case) out to 200 yards, using the same ammo, the win goes to 300 blk. But it's not a massive difference. The farther you get over 200 yards and the .223/5.56 gets all of the advantages of higher velocity.
Armored targets 5.56 wins at any distance.
Lots of variables here. Don't argue with me because I didn't mention some of them lol
The differences on soft targets are nuanced, not a massive difference between the two.
Ammo choice is everything for 300 blk. There is some nasty light weight high speed solid copper expanding ammo out there. And 5.56 of the same make is really outstanding as well.
Same ammo only 300 blk
So. Many. Variables.
It's hardly worth arguing about.
Armored targets 5.56 wins at any distance.
Lots of variables here. Don't argue with me because I didn't mention some of them lol
The differences on soft targets are nuanced, not a massive difference between the two.
Ammo choice is everything for 300 blk. There is some nasty light weight high speed solid copper expanding ammo out there. And 5.56 of the same make is really outstanding as well.
Same ammo only 300 blk
So. Many. Variables.
It's hardly worth arguing about.
01-30-2023, 05:16 AM
#2352
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
A rifle with a 16” barrel and a silencer becomes a musket.
Okay, so, you're building a 16" .300 blk. Throw a silencer and some subs on (better really be sub cause 16" barrel) and now there is a silencer hanging off the front too…how much shooting have you done with a silencer on the front of a 16" barrel?
But yes you are right you can have what amounts to a handgun (.45 ACP) except it costs way more money and is way longer and less maneuverable
But yes you are right you can have what amounts to a handgun (.45 ACP) except it costs way more money and is way longer and less maneuverable
01-30-2023, 05:24 AM
#2353
Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
With no way to mount a usable bayonet.
A rifle with a 16” barrel and a silencer becomes a musket.
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01-30-2023, 05:24 AM
#2354
Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
Hitting the range this afternoon with the 20" Wilson Combat with a 9" suppressor LMFAO!
A rifle with a 16” barrel and a silencer becomes a musket.
01-30-2023, 05:31 AM
#2355
Last range trip I was using a 16” AR with a full size can (and LPVO) and it’s not thaaatttt bad.
What’s wrong with a musket anyways, 20” m16 gang is master race
What’s wrong with a musket anyways, 20” m16 gang is master race
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01-30-2023, 05:39 AM
#2356
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
That’s the designer, Wilson Musket Plus model. Just beat the home intruder to death with it.
Hitting the range this afternoon with the 20" Wilson Combat with a 9" suppressor LMFAO!
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Nah. Nothing is wrong with that. I trusted my life to a 20” rifle for 10 years. I would love to have any of those rifles today.*
Last range trip I was using a 16” AR with a full size can (and LPVO) and it’s not thaaatttt bad.
What’s wrong with a musket anyways, 20” m16 gang is master race
What’s wrong with a musket anyways, 20” m16 gang is master race
*Except the one I had in infantry school. The barrel was shot out on that bitch.
01-30-2023, 10:18 AM
#2357
Lmao at you retards still justifying your range toy aka .300 BO. Just admit you fell into the gimmicky marketing and sell it to buy something actually useful. Suck it, nerds.
Fun day in the snow. Course was similar to ones we've run before. Movement of about 150m total with a variety of shooting positions throughout. Ran it for time and score (based on hits). The video here is of the last four positions on the course, engaging a steel target from 60m away with two quick shots. Mags were preloaded with an unknown amount to force sporadic reloads. I ****ed up on the last reload, moving to the last position before reloading. Probably a combination of the extra layers and being tired from running the course. I realized it after I had committed to the move.
https://imgur.com/oJbsGlU
This weekend we'll do the similar course, but essentially in reverse for a break contact drill.
Fun day in the snow. Course was similar to ones we've run before. Movement of about 150m total with a variety of shooting positions throughout. Ran it for time and score (based on hits). The video here is of the last four positions on the course, engaging a steel target from 60m away with two quick shots. Mags were preloaded with an unknown amount to force sporadic reloads. I ****ed up on the last reload, moving to the last position before reloading. Probably a combination of the extra layers and being tired from running the course. I realized it after I had committed to the move.
https://imgur.com/oJbsGlU
This weekend we'll do the similar course, but essentially in reverse for a break contact drill.
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01-30-2023, 10:24 AM
#2358
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Bingo. Does everything I want and more…better
If we're talking shooting soft targets (deer in this case) out to 200 yards, using the same ammo, the win goes to 300 blk. But it's not a massive difference. The farther you get over 200 yards and the .223/5.56 gets all of the advantages of higher velocity.
Armored targets 5.56 wins at any distance.
Lots of variables here. Don't argue with me because I didn't mention some of them lol
The differences on soft targets are nuanced, not a massive difference between the two.
Ammo choice is everything for 300 blk. There is some nasty light weight high speed solid copper expanding ammo out there. And 5.56 of the same make is really outstanding as well.
Same ammo only 300 blk
So. Many. Variables.
It's hardly worth arguing about.
Armored targets 5.56 wins at any distance.
Lots of variables here. Don't argue with me because I didn't mention some of them lol
The differences on soft targets are nuanced, not a massive difference between the two.
Ammo choice is everything for 300 blk. There is some nasty light weight high speed solid copper expanding ammo out there. And 5.56 of the same make is really outstanding as well.
Same ammo only 300 blk
So. Many. Variables.
It's hardly worth arguing about.
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01-30-2023, 10:25 AM
#2359
Originally Posted By Bo_Flecks⏩
A rifle with a 16” barrel and a silencer becomes a musket.
Hahaha needed this on a Monday.
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01-30-2023, 10:30 AM
#2360
Does the addiction to firearms ever go away?
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01-30-2023, 10:31 AM
#2361
Originally Posted By bluebeltATT⏩
No/thread
Does the addiction to firearms ever go away?
01-30-2023, 10:41 AM
#2362
Finally got to shoot my new setup yesterday, -7 temps did not deter me from going to the range. It shoots great, and is quite accurate with tight groupings even with pmc x-tac ammo. Only thing I don't like about it is that it likes to kick spent shells everywhere. I had to stop a couple of times to swat away hot casings away from my arm in a seated and rested position from the bench I was shooting off of. Is there a reason why my LaRue upper doesn't like to kick casings toward the front right of the gun?
Also what's a good quality leather shoulder holster to get? I had a poor experience with Alien gear, and galco seems to be expensive for what they offer. According to YouTube and forum comments.
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01-30-2023, 10:43 AM
#2363
I'm surprised there is still a debate over 5.56 vs 300 blk
Even if the terminal ballistics were marginally better, picking the round that is twice as expensive with 1/100th the availability seems odd.
Also, I know like 10 people with .300 blk rifles. Do you know how many have actually gotten the stamp and bought a can like they talked about? Zero. lol
Even if the terminal ballistics were marginally better, picking the round that is twice as expensive with 1/100th the availability seems odd.
Also, I know like 10 people with .300 blk rifles. Do you know how many have actually gotten the stamp and bought a can like they talked about? Zero. lol
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01-30-2023, 10:47 AM
#2364
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01-30-2023, 11:04 AM
#2365
Originally Posted By proconsul⏩
Pair of Arsenal SLR-104FRs
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01-30-2023, 11:31 AM
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It's happening boyos!
BREAKING NEWS: NRA-Backed Constitutional Carry Introduced in Florida
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1620103811766386688
Now what does this mean to the owners of a CCW permit/license?
Constitutional carry is open carry without a permit, but in order to conceal carry going to need a permit?
Is this how it works?
BREAKING NEWS: NRA-Backed Constitutional Carry Introduced in Florida
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1620103811766386688
Now what does this mean to the owners of a CCW permit/license?
Constitutional carry is open carry without a permit, but in order to conceal carry going to need a permit?
Is this how it works?
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01-30-2023, 11:32 AM
#2367
Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
How many rounds of 300 blk have you fired?
Bingo. Does everything I want and more…better
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01-30-2023, 11:34 AM
#2368
Originally Posted By bluebeltATT⏩
"Constitutional Carry" used appropriately refers to concealed carry without a permit. A number of states have had open carry without a permit for a long time, but it's not referred to as "Constitutional" until it includes concealed carry without a permit.
It's happening boyos!
BREAKING NEWS: NRA-Backed Constitutional Carry Introduced in Florida
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1620103811766386688
Now what does this mean to the owners of a CCW permit/license?
Constitutional carry is open carry without a permit, but in order to conceal carry going to need a permit?
Is this how it works?
BREAKING NEWS: NRA-Backed Constitutional Carry Introduced in Florida
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1620103811766386688
Now what does this mean to the owners of a CCW permit/license?
Constitutional carry is open carry without a permit, but in order to conceal carry going to need a permit?
Is this how it works?
Currently, 25 states are permitless concealed carry aka Constitutional carry. Even if FL passes it, they'll be in the bottom half
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01-30-2023, 11:37 AM
#2369
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
"Constitutional Carry" used appropriately refers to concealed carry without a permit. A number of states have had open carry without a permit for a long time, but it's not referred to as "Constitutional" until it includes concealed carry without a permit.
Currently, 25 states are permitless concealed carry aka Constitutional carry. Even if FL passes it, they'll be in the bottom half
Currently, 25 states are permitless concealed carry aka Constitutional carry. Even if FL passes it, they'll be in the bottom half
I'm guessing that anyone with a criminal background caught carrying a weapon will go to prison.
So now if/when this bill passes we won't need a permit to conceal carry?
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01-30-2023, 11:40 AM
#2370
Originally Posted By bluebeltATT⏩
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It's happening boyos!
BREAKING NEWS: NRA-Backed Constitutional Carry Introduced in Florida
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1620103811766386688
Now what does this mean to the owners of a CCW permit/license?
Constitutional carry is open carry without a permit, but in order to conceal carry going to need a permit?
Is this how it works?
BREAKING NEWS: NRA-Backed Constitutional Carry Introduced in Florida
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1620103811766386688
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Constitutional carry is open carry without a permit, but in order to conceal carry going to need a permit?
Is this how it works?
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