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I now understand why so many guys kill themselves in their late 20s/early 30s
I now understand why so many guys kill themselves in their late 20s/early 30s
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Originally Posted By JustBasketball⏩
Go with 30 because it has some literary significance if you've ever read Brothers Karamazov. Ivan is LDAR af.yep, I've always put 28 as the cut off point. If i'm 28 and unhappy with my life, i'll kill myself.
I'm too young right now to make such a foolish decision, and if I wait longer than 28, i'll probably find myself with a wife and kids.. I would never put my kids through something like that. So I think 28 a good age, if I haven't got my chit together by then, I doubt I ever will, so why continue living meaninglessly.
I'm too young right now to make such a foolish decision, and if I wait longer than 28, i'll probably find myself with a wife and kids.. I would never put my kids through something like that. So I think 28 a good age, if I haven't got my chit together by then, I doubt I ever will, so why continue living meaninglessly.
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Originally Posted By jwarrenfit⏩
1- Stong and an engineer1- At the age of 12 what did you want to be when you grew up?
2- What do you spend most of your free time doing?
3- What do your friends and family come to you to advice about?
4- what do you spend most of your time talking/ reading about?
2- What do you spend most of your free time doing?
3- What do your friends and family come to you to advice about?
4- what do you spend most of your time talking/ reading about?
2-Powerlifting
3-Health/lifting
4-Powerlifting
Good to see that worked out for you. I got my engineering degree a year ago and have been working as a construction estimator. I train on the side as my own thing and it is so much more fulfilling and satisfying. Would you mind PMing me some advice or tips on how to continue or expand as a trainer?
Also to the people in saying they want to kill themselves, hold off on that. Suicide doesn't end your burden or struggle it just transfers them to the ones you leave behind. They are left wondering what they could have done different to make you stay. I struggle to this day because my old workout partner hung himself. Stay safe brahs and keep grinding. Things will get better. There is nothing wrong with living a normal quiet life. It is unrealistic to expect to be stupid rich with a harem of 10/10 HBBs. Stay modest. PM if you need to talk.
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coping at new levels itt
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Originally Posted By xvicknumber7x⏩
Wait a minute. Didn't you just make a thread about a GF being 100k in debt?i don't know these feels. i have no gf, an average earning job, and a fuuck ton of hobbies and interests and I have never been happier.
dont care if I'm still in college at 25, don't care if I don't have wife material waiting in bed for me, don't care about where I should have advanced to or where I should be. in this moment, I am happy and livin' and that's frankly all I need to be happy.
dont care if I'm still in college at 25, don't care if I don't have wife material waiting in bed for me, don't care about where I should have advanced to or where I should be. in this moment, I am happy and livin' and that's frankly all I need to be happy.
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06-03-2016, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted By LikeAMachine⏩
ex-gf.Wait a minute. Didn't you just make a thread about a GF being 100k in debt?
i believe I made that thread in early-mid april. I handled that problem shortly after.
06-03-2016, 08:03 AM
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Wanna know what really stings?
When you live in a city where even if you're pulling in $100,000 a year you still have to live pretty meagerly in order to get by because of how expensive property is here. Want a house? Better be able to swing a $1 Million mortgage if not more for a small bungalow that probably needs another $50 - $70,000 in rennos. Want a 2 story house? about $2.5million and up.
You can buy a condo, maybe, still $350,000+, but then you're living in a 450sq/ft space where your kitchen and living room are the same place.You gonna be confortable there? You gonna have your inlaws over for dinner there? You gonna raise a kid there? Want 2 bedrooms? Better have at least $600,000 ready.
"Look for a place out of the city" is the common reply.
Yeah but if you work in the downtown core then you're commuting 2 hrs in traffic each way. I know people who do this and their lives are miserable because of it. They barely have time to enjoy the house they're working to pay for. Plus then a car becomes mandatory. And one of the great things about being in the inner city is you don't need a car. It's like new york, having a car is almost a hassle. But woops now you live 3 hours away so you need one.
Basically here (Toronto) unless you: 1) come from money or 2) have inherited property or a massive amount of money) - you will never own property here.
And if that's not bad enough, detached housing prices are rising by $550 per day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05...n_9841878.html
So even if you get that 6 figure job you're still basically on that poverty time.
When you live in a city where even if you're pulling in $100,000 a year you still have to live pretty meagerly in order to get by because of how expensive property is here. Want a house? Better be able to swing a $1 Million mortgage if not more for a small bungalow that probably needs another $50 - $70,000 in rennos. Want a 2 story house? about $2.5million and up.
You can buy a condo, maybe, still $350,000+, but then you're living in a 450sq/ft space where your kitchen and living room are the same place.You gonna be confortable there? You gonna have your inlaws over for dinner there? You gonna raise a kid there? Want 2 bedrooms? Better have at least $600,000 ready.
"Look for a place out of the city" is the common reply.
Yeah but if you work in the downtown core then you're commuting 2 hrs in traffic each way. I know people who do this and their lives are miserable because of it. They barely have time to enjoy the house they're working to pay for. Plus then a car becomes mandatory. And one of the great things about being in the inner city is you don't need a car. It's like new york, having a car is almost a hassle. But woops now you live 3 hours away so you need one.
Basically here (Toronto) unless you: 1) come from money or 2) have inherited property or a massive amount of money) - you will never own property here.
And if that's not bad enough, detached housing prices are rising by $550 per day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05...n_9841878.html
So even if you get that 6 figure job you're still basically on that poverty time.
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Originally Posted By UACdarknova⏩
Don't be a slave to the 9-5 + commute. If you find yourself unhappy, pay off your bills, put together a slush fund and just leave for a bit. Find what makes you happy and go do it somewhere where you're not miserable in 2 hours traffic just because you have to find an affordable house.Wanna know what really stings?
When you live in a city where even if you're pulling in $100,000 a year you still have to live pretty meagerly in order to get by because of how expensive property is here. Want a house? Better be able to swing a $1 Million mortgage if not more for a small bungalow that probably needs another $50 - $70,000 in rennos. Want a 2 story house? about $2.5million and up.
You can buy a condo, maybe, still $350,000+, but then you're living in a 450sq/ft space where your kitchen and living room are the same place.You gonna be confortable there? You gonna have your inlaws over for dinner there? You gonna raise a kid there? Want 2 bedrooms? Better have at least $600,000 ready.
"Look for a place out of the city" is the common reply.
Yeah but if you work in the downtown core then you're commuting 2 hrs in traffic each way. I know people who do this and their lives are miserable because of it. They barely have time to enjoy the house they're working to pay for. Plus then a car becomes mandatory. And one of the great things about being in the inner city is you don't need a car. It's like new york, having a car is almost a hassle. But woops now you live 3 hours away so you need one.
Basically here (Toronto) unless you: 1) come from money or 2) have inherited property or a massive amount of money) - you will never own property here.
And if that's not bad enough, detached housing prices are rising by $550 per day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05...n_9841878.html
So even if you get that 6 figure job you're still basically on that poverty time.
When you live in a city where even if you're pulling in $100,000 a year you still have to live pretty meagerly in order to get by because of how expensive property is here. Want a house? Better be able to swing a $1 Million mortgage if not more for a small bungalow that probably needs another $50 - $70,000 in rennos. Want a 2 story house? about $2.5million and up.
You can buy a condo, maybe, still $350,000+, but then you're living in a 450sq/ft space where your kitchen and living room are the same place.You gonna be confortable there? You gonna have your inlaws over for dinner there? You gonna raise a kid there? Want 2 bedrooms? Better have at least $600,000 ready.
"Look for a place out of the city" is the common reply.
Yeah but if you work in the downtown core then you're commuting 2 hrs in traffic each way. I know people who do this and their lives are miserable because of it. They barely have time to enjoy the house they're working to pay for. Plus then a car becomes mandatory. And one of the great things about being in the inner city is you don't need a car. It's like new york, having a car is almost a hassle. But woops now you live 3 hours away so you need one.
Basically here (Toronto) unless you: 1) come from money or 2) have inherited property or a massive amount of money) - you will never own property here.
And if that's not bad enough, detached housing prices are rising by $550 per day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05...n_9841878.html
So even if you get that 6 figure job you're still basically on that poverty time.
No amount of money is worth wasting 4 hours of my life a day, stuck in traffic, miserable. We only get one shot on this rock, enjoy it, dont work yourself into a stroke.
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Originally Posted By DieselRobert1⏩
To be honest that situation doesn't really represent my life - thank God. But for the majority of people my age in this city that is the reality.Don't be a slave to the 9-5 + commute. If you find yourself unhappy, pay off your bills, put together a slush fund and just leave for a bit. Find what makes you happy and go do it somewhere where you're not miserable in 2 hours traffic just because you have to find an affordable house.
No amount of money is worth wasting 4 hours of my life a day, stuck in traffic, miserable. We only get one shot on this rock, enjoy it, dont work yourself into a stroke.
No amount of money is worth wasting 4 hours of my life a day, stuck in traffic, miserable. We only get one shot on this rock, enjoy it, dont work yourself into a stroke.
But to adress what you're saying, I understand that whole "don't be a slave" mentality but what does somebody do if they need the money? I guess they could opt to rent instead of owning a home. But long term where does that put you?
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Originally Posted By Xedem⏩
The answer is NO, man there's so much more to life than working a slave job to make it into todays standarts. If u wanna give up, just sit back n chill play videogames, play sports like u did in hs. Work a low end job, lifes fun and is what u make of it. Don't let society push u into the standards. So what if you're a millionaire at age 30 and enjoying alcohol and hookers? What's the difference, in the end were all humans and should pick our own lifestyle,just do what you enjoy.Just turned 25... and this is what my exact ****ing feels have been...
Srs question, is it normal to think of suicide when you're depressed or feeling down?
I sure have been.
Srs question, is it normal to think of suicide when you're depressed or feeling down?
I sure have been.
edit: not gonna lie tho, when I was seriously depressed I've been thinking about it too. brings back the goosebumps when I thnk about it, one day I was srsly done with it all and gonna walk to the first train. 6 years ago now.
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Originally Posted By DeusExTerra⏩
Also you are in Australia which is a huge difference.. Your 81k is 59k in the US. Also your 140k is 109k in the US and so on. Never mind the cost of living is way higher.sorry dude but you are very wrong here. in my field (software/technology sales), the average annual salary of a fully ramped-up Enterprise Account Executive is anywhere between $150k-$300k annually, based on the company. You make more moving into management. It is very achievable if you plan three steps ahead where you want to be. I just turned 25, I made $81k last year before taxes. Expecting to be right around $200k by age 30 like the guy you replied to mentioned.
My old manager recently left the company to become director of worldwide sales at another firm, basically told me if I leave here he had a $140k/yr role waiting for me whenever. So connections are important as well.
My old manager recently left the company to become director of worldwide sales at another firm, basically told me if I leave here he had a $140k/yr role waiting for me whenever. So connections are important as well.
People got to put that into real world perspective especially when people from the states see these salary ranges.
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Originally Posted By JustBasketball⏩
Man the **** up and change your situation. Life is hard stop being a whinny lil bitch. Seriously tempted to neg for considering suicide.yep, I've always put 28 as the cut off point. If i'm 28 and unhappy with my life, i'll kill myself.
I'm too young right now to make such a foolish decision, and if I wait longer than 28, i'll probably find myself with a wife and kids.. I would never put my kids through something like that. So I think 28 a good age, if I haven't got my chit together by then, I doubt I ever will, so why continue living meaninglessly.
I'm too young right now to make such a foolish decision, and if I wait longer than 28, i'll probably find myself with a wife and kids.. I would never put my kids through something like that. So I think 28 a good age, if I haven't got my chit together by then, I doubt I ever will, so why continue living meaninglessly.
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Originally Posted By UACdarknova⏩
Canadas due for a housing market bubble burst like we had. Once again 100k Canadian is 77k US. We need to put things like this is perspective on this board.Wanna know what really stings?
When you live in a city where even if you're pulling in $100,000 a year you still have to live pretty meagerly in order to get by because of how expensive property is here. Want a house? Better be able to swing a $1 Million mortgage if not more for a small bungalow that probably needs another $50 - $70,000 in rennos. Want a 2 story house? about $2.5million and up.
You can buy a condo, maybe, still $350,000+, but then you're living in a 450sq/ft space where your kitchen and living room are the same place.You gonna be confortable there? You gonna have your inlaws over for dinner there? You gonna raise a kid there? Want 2 bedrooms? Better have at least $600,000 ready.
"Look for a place out of the city" is the common reply.
Yeah but if you work in the downtown core then you're commuting 2 hrs in traffic each way. I know people who do this and their lives are miserable because of it. They barely have time to enjoy the house they're working to pay for. Plus then a car becomes mandatory. And one of the great things about being in the inner city is you don't need a car. It's like new york, having a car is almost a hassle. But woops now you live 3 hours away so you need one.
Basically here (Toronto) unless you: 1) come from money or 2) have inherited property or a massive amount of money) - you will never own property here.
And if that's not bad enough, detached housing prices are rising by $550 per day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05...n_9841878.html
So even if you get that 6 figure job you're still basically on that poverty time.
When you live in a city where even if you're pulling in $100,000 a year you still have to live pretty meagerly in order to get by because of how expensive property is here. Want a house? Better be able to swing a $1 Million mortgage if not more for a small bungalow that probably needs another $50 - $70,000 in rennos. Want a 2 story house? about $2.5million and up.
You can buy a condo, maybe, still $350,000+, but then you're living in a 450sq/ft space where your kitchen and living room are the same place.You gonna be confortable there? You gonna have your inlaws over for dinner there? You gonna raise a kid there? Want 2 bedrooms? Better have at least $600,000 ready.
"Look for a place out of the city" is the common reply.
Yeah but if you work in the downtown core then you're commuting 2 hrs in traffic each way. I know people who do this and their lives are miserable because of it. They barely have time to enjoy the house they're working to pay for. Plus then a car becomes mandatory. And one of the great things about being in the inner city is you don't need a car. It's like new york, having a car is almost a hassle. But woops now you live 3 hours away so you need one.
Basically here (Toronto) unless you: 1) come from money or 2) have inherited property or a massive amount of money) - you will never own property here.
And if that's not bad enough, detached housing prices are rising by $550 per day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/05...n_9841878.html
So even if you get that 6 figure job you're still basically on that poverty time.
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06-03-2016, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted By triglyceride⏩
I've thought about this a lot, and I agree.because humans were only meant to survive to their late 20's from the dawn of time
I don't think humans were meant to live a hundred years.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
The good news? Self acceptance.Based.
I think about dying a lot. My life is essentially worthless, and I have failed at every category of life. I'm a below average socializer, am plagued with anxiety/depression/low self esteem, below average intelligence, lack creativity, and have average to below average looks.
I'm just about to enter my 30's, and have made absolutely no progress at all.
Wish I could just fall asleep and not wake back up.
Praise Kek.
I think about dying a lot. My life is essentially worthless, and I have failed at every category of life. I'm a below average socializer, am plagued with anxiety/depression/low self esteem, below average intelligence, lack creativity, and have average to below average looks.
I'm just about to enter my 30's, and have made absolutely no progress at all.
Wish I could just fall asleep and not wake back up.
Praise Kek.
You've already accepted all the above and are self aware. Believe it or not that is the hard part.
Now change.
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Originally Posted By andishehhank⏩
Others actions have zero effect on my well being. It's liberating.You try being the only positive person in a world where everyone thinks they are the only positive person, and report back with sanity in 5 years.
Are you uncomfortable being alone with yourself for extended periods of times?
If you are alone and depressed then obviously you are in bad company
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I know these feels. Spent a few of the better years of my late 20's getting really drunk and doing a LOT of drugs because of it. Cleaned up (relatively) and going to grad school now, almost 30 years old, no shyts given, as I actually have a plan this time around.
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What I find interesting is people that say outright: "I'm not intelligent".
I find it almost contradictory. Someone with the self-awareness and introspection to realize they aren't smart must be at least above average.
I think its a sign of low self-esteem,confidence or depression. As opposed to being dumb.
Most stupid people are often arrogant, brash and think they are the brightest.
Its also a quality that many people are fiercely protective over. It's one of the worst things you can say to someone.
I'm very secure and not easily rustled. But if someone I respected said to me: " Look m8; your slow, stupid and struggle to figure out conceptual ideas." I'd be pretty taken aback.
In fact I'd say it was my only true comfort blanket. My self-talk goes along the lines of telling myself: you're on the right track, you screw up a bit and slack too often, but the combination of your genius and ambition will pull you through. You're gonna make it.
Also intelligence=/= achievement. its only a singular attribute.
I find it almost contradictory. Someone with the self-awareness and introspection to realize they aren't smart must be at least above average.
I think its a sign of low self-esteem,confidence or depression. As opposed to being dumb.
Most stupid people are often arrogant, brash and think they are the brightest.
Its also a quality that many people are fiercely protective over. It's one of the worst things you can say to someone.
I'm very secure and not easily rustled. But if someone I respected said to me: " Look m8; your slow, stupid and struggle to figure out conceptual ideas." I'd be pretty taken aback.
In fact I'd say it was my only true comfort blanket. My self-talk goes along the lines of telling myself: you're on the right track, you screw up a bit and slack too often, but the combination of your genius and ambition will pull you through. You're gonna make it.
Also intelligence=/= achievement. its only a singular attribute.
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Life is what you make of it, you can either stay at home all day and continue living your life like a robot doing the same old boring things everyday and complain about it and never do anything... or you can be a go getter and change your life and do things you've never done before and be successful and tell everyone to suck it... only You control your life, no one is pressuring you but you, which is a sign to get up and do something
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As someone who has a lot of mates that age, I can say that money is the most important thing of all. Forget about women they come and go, money must absolutely be the priority.
Tbh if people kill themselves because of women then they deserve to die. LDAR, dead style.
Tbh if people kill themselves because of women then they deserve to die. LDAR, dead style.
06-03-2016, 11:33 AM
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life only begins at 30, mang.
i feel younger mentally than ever before, women love me more than they ever did, my band(that i started at 30) is playing in front of hundreds of people and we haven't even released anything yet.
calm down, meditate, do a little yoga, put yourself out there.
life's a party
tour is definitely not over
i feel younger mentally than ever before, women love me more than they ever did, my band(that i started at 30) is playing in front of hundreds of people and we haven't even released anything yet.
calm down, meditate, do a little yoga, put yourself out there.
life's a party
tour is definitely not over
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I've never seen a rotter like this...
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Originally Posted By Jallalabadbad⏩
This, start picking up hobbies, I started to learn guitar and go cycling with a group of people from the bike shopIndeed.
Social circle dwindles as m8's get married / have kids and you feel more and more isolated
Got to get out man, join some social groups/clubs start doing things for yourself
Social circle dwindles as m8's get married / have kids and you feel more and more isolated
Got to get out man, join some social groups/clubs start doing things for yourself
06-03-2016, 11:46 AM
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06-03-2016, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Armord⏩
This is the definition of Cope. If you're life sucks now, it won't magically become good because you hit the magical 30.30s is when you are the most valuable and sought after.. unless you're a fugball
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Can confirm on doing things on your initiative. I was fortunate to have been asked to join a running/hiking group last year. It has never been the same ever since. I found myself doing a lot more than I did when I was in my 20's.
06-03-2016, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted By xvicknumber7x⏩
disagree with this brah. That's not genuine happiness if you have to convince yourself of it. It doesnt matter what you have, if you want other things. Sure, it could be worse. But that doesn't mean you are happy or where you want to beanyone can choose to be happy. you can choose to be happy with what you have and the path you will take toward your goals, or you can choose to be miserable about it and perform poorly in the pursuit of those goals as a result.
stop looking at what you don't have you fuucking ungrateful clowns. you all have health, knowledge, and youth on your side. now map out a plan to get to where you want to be,be fuucking patientand start working now towards them.
stop looking at what you don't have you fuucking ungrateful clowns. you all have health, knowledge, and youth on your side. now map out a plan to get to where you want to be,be fuucking patientand start working now towards them.
I think it's better to accept that you aren't happy and just get on with it. Doesn't make sense that you'd always be happy in life. it waxes and wanes
06-03-2016, 11:50 PM
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this thread is depressing, but real though. i like these threads, because they reinforce what should be happening in your life. Awakening your goals of what you want to accomplish.
That's all it really is anyways, looking for the next thing to run with to make life somewhat easier. Every life should be unique to ones real purpose, or intentions after that we should encourage others to do the same.
Being positive takes a fuk load of time to encompass in your brain until you're effortlessly living with ease. Just really depends, everyone is different, so you got to be real honest to yourself at all times.
Some people are born with it, and are ruthless, and then become gangsters, politicians. While others are steadfast into making others happy while never seeking their own interest. Big mistake, and will always lead to depression.
We all gotta die someday so it's whatever. Work toward your goals, and take no for answers, and you should be able to get there, regardless of age. Think about yourself first, and put your family first as well.
Life is indeed tuff, but it's all about how we react to it, and remember we all die alone, so do what's best for you, and your thought process.
That's all it really is anyways, looking for the next thing to run with to make life somewhat easier. Every life should be unique to ones real purpose, or intentions after that we should encourage others to do the same.
Being positive takes a fuk load of time to encompass in your brain until you're effortlessly living with ease. Just really depends, everyone is different, so you got to be real honest to yourself at all times.
Some people are born with it, and are ruthless, and then become gangsters, politicians. While others are steadfast into making others happy while never seeking their own interest. Big mistake, and will always lead to depression.
We all gotta die someday so it's whatever. Work toward your goals, and take no for answers, and you should be able to get there, regardless of age. Think about yourself first, and put your family first as well.
Life is indeed tuff, but it's all about how we react to it, and remember we all die alone, so do what's best for you, and your thought process.
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06-04-2016, 12:00 AM
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Lets be honest life sucks unless you were fortunate to be born to wealthy parents. Most people will say "oh my life will be better in 10 years" bs your life will only be better when youve got a ton of money, which for most of us will be never. Best thing to do is party hard do drugs hard and phuck girls even harder until one of those kills you. Good luck brahs
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