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Thread: If you take lifting seriously and you’re not lean, why the fuk aren’t you?

post 1568595391 12-13-2018, 07:19 PM
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Agreed that's the first step in to looking like you actually lift
post 1568595761 12-13-2018, 07:23 PM
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I eat too much and don't work out enough, plain and simple. No excuses just facts. If anyone says otherwise it's cope pure and simple.
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post 1568595841 12-13-2018, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
No one is denying it is a huge advantage, just taking exception to the notion that you can not train and eat lile chit cycle after cycle and excpect to put on 7lbs of lbm each time, doesn't work like that. If a natty who had been training for years and was near thier natty potential hopped on and quit working out, they would probably not gain even 7lbs lbm. That study fails to take in to account quite a few variables as well.
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post 1568597651 12-13-2018, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By poolshark472⏩
diet is the hard part for most people. training is not.
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post 1568603271 12-13-2018, 08:46 PM
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post 1568620091 12-14-2018, 03:51 AM
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Somewhat agree

If I start to loose my abs I go into freakout cutting mode. But my ex made me deeply insecure about my body (pretty much only stayed with me if I was lean) and so my mindset is ****ed. Not exactly the 'balance' OP is talking about but yea.
post 1568621631 12-14-2018, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Btw:

Bobby and Arn seem like good examples of what this thread is actually about.

From what I gather they’re both reasonably lean now where no one in their right mind could call them fat or “soft” and they’re both strong as fuk with an emphasis on powerlifting. While they’re chasing strength, they’re not fooling themselves by adding unnecessary amounts of fat just to move a couple extra pounds.

Whatever their supplementation happens to be is mostly irrelevant, they’d both still be nearly the same versions of themselves without it but to a slightly lower degree.

Our genetics may give us different upper limits on strength and size but they certainly don’t doom you to be fat all your life and incapable of maintaining a nice, reasonably aesthetic bf% while still being able to chase down some of those strength or size goals.
My training purely hypertrophy based. Bobby's is too really.

Still not sure I fully agree with the premise of this thread but I guess it depends on your definition of lean

To be certain, pure strength athletes would definitely not agree with you
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post 1568621981 12-14-2018, 05:08 AM
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To me.. lean is life. I just feel healthier and more focused when leaner. Plus my strength is just fine, not trying to compete in powerlifting any time soon.
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post 1568622191 12-14-2018, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted By MichaelDuong⏩
srs, the tech hate on here is laughable. I really despise the guys that use being natty as an excuse to be fking subpar.

The reality is the natural guy is probably not tracking his food to a T, half asses his workout, and parties it up while coping meanwhile the guy on tech (that didn’t use it as a shortcut) is training his ass off twice a day, tracking his progress diligently, and surrounds a large part of his life with the gym.

with that being said, im only 5 ft 8 170 so i don’t have room to talk compared to most of you fukers so inb4 someone discredits me via a quote and lists my stats
You obviously have no first hand experience. Two guys, one tracks his diet to a t and does everything correct in the gym, he is natty. Second guy eats HALFWAY decent and fks around in the gym a few times a week, but is playing Tekken. Tekken dude is gonna look infinitely better. That's just how it goes. Anybody who tells you different is either on it and doesn't want the truth out there, or has never seen it with their own eyes.
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post 1568622231 12-14-2018, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
My training purely hypertrophy based. Bobby's is too really.

Still not sure I fully agree with the premise of this thread but I guess it depends on your definition of lean

To be certain, pure strength athletes would definitely not agree with you
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post 1568622271 12-14-2018, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
You obviously have no first hand experience. Two guys, one tracks his diet to a t and does everything correct in the gym, he is natty. Second guy eats HALFWAY decent and fks around in the gym a few times a week, but is playing Tekken. Tekken dude is gonna look infinitely better. That's just how it goes. Anybody who tells you different is either on it and doesn't want the truth out there, or has never seen it with their own eyes.
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post 1568622781 12-14-2018, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
You obviously have no first hand experience. Two guys, one tracks his diet to a t and does everything correct in the gym, he is natty. Second guy eats HALFWAY decent and fks around in the gym a few times a week, but is playing Tekken. Tekken dude is gonna look infinitely better. That's just how it goes. Anybody who tells you different is either on it and doesn't want the truth out there, or has never seen it with their own eyes.
It was proven years ago that playing tekken and not even lifting produces muscle growth. I have no respect for tekken users unless they come out and are honest about it. People who deny playing tekken doesnt make a huge difference I strength and physique gains are just lying to themselves.
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post 1568623031 12-14-2018, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
You obviously have no first hand experience.
Doesn't seem like you do either
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post 1568623131 12-14-2018, 05:44 AM
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What is this ”cell tech” you’re talking about? Srs question
post 1568623211 12-14-2018, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By JorneBrah⏩
What is this ”cell tech” you’re talking about? Srs question
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post 1568623251 12-14-2018, 05:49 AM
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post 1568624051 12-14-2018, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
My training purely hypertrophy based.

Still not sure I fully agree with the premise of this thread but I guess it depends on your definition of lean

...
This!
I train for hypertrophy.
Even with that I still get stronger.

It really depends on how lean we're talking.
My avi is stage lean.
Now I'm not that lean but i still have visible abs even though I am 20 pounds over that avi pic.
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post 1568624161 12-14-2018, 06:11 AM
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I'm not sure that I see what inherent, necessary connection there is between lifting (seriously or otherwise) and leanness.
post 1568624261 12-14-2018, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted By bb09⏩
I'm not sure that I see what inherent, necessary connection there is between lifting (seriously or otherwise) and leanness.
There really isn't.

Some lift to get stronger, some lift to look better and some lift just to stay healthy.
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Originally Posted By Metacam24⏩
But my ex made me deeply insecure about my body (pretty much only stayed with me if I was lean) and so my mindset is ****ed.
That's ****ed up lmao
post 1568628951 12-14-2018, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
You obviously have no first hand experience. Two guys, one tracks his diet to a t and does everything correct in the gym, he is natty. Second guy eats HALFWAY decent and fks around in the gym a few times a week, but is playing Tekken. Tekken dude is gonna look infinitely better. That's just how it goes. Anybody who tells you different is either on it and doesn't want the truth out there, or has never seen it with their own eyes.
This is the truth. I respect tech users that have made good gains and are strong but to say that someone can look worse body wise while on it just isn't true. The only way someone could look worse is their face could be bloated and they age 20 years over the course of 2. Everyone I've known personally that hopped on gained more muscle with the one exception being a guy who quit going to the gym, started eating like he Ronnie Coleman on a bulk and got fat.
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who gives a fuk, being really lean (12% or less BF) isn't even optimal performance for most sports. At a certain point performance just dips hard.

being lean doesn't mean you are fit, I've seen some fatass maw****as that can probably run laps around people on the misc. A lot of UFC/Boxing Heavyweights would probably do the same.

Not everybody cares for aesthetics, some people like to chase numbers which is cool. You don't have to be lean to be fit and healthy either.
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
who gives a fuk, being really lean (12% or less BF) isn't even optimal performance for most sports. At a certain point performance just dips hard.

being lean doesn't mean you are fit, I've seen some fatass maw****as that can probably run laps around people on the misc. A lot of UFC/Boxing Heavyweights would probably do the same.

Not everybody cares for aesthetics, some people like to chase numbers which is cool. You don't have to be lean to be fit and healthy either.
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Originally Posted By arn710⏩
Doesn't seem like you do either
Not personally, but I have seen dozens of others on it. You know all about it, I am sure.
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Originally Posted By Carbon7197⏩
To me.. lean is life. I just feel healthier and more focused when leaner. Plus my strength is just fine, not trying to compete in powerlifting any time soon.
Workout split/routine?
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post 1568647001 12-14-2018, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
Not personally, but I have seen dozens of others on it. You know all about it, I am sure.
Pretty hypocritical for you to call out others then. Yes, a lot. More than most experienced users even
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I'm lean-ish, but the last time I was super lean I also didn't have a period and other health issues. As a woman it's just not worth it in the long run.
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Originally Posted By poolshark472⏩
diet is the hard part for most people. training is not.
this. i train and try to cardio at least 4 times a week but its not enough to stay lean when i love to eat carbs.

i'm also 39; theres a big difference in how my body responds to training and food. I used to be able to eat everything and not gain weight; now i look at food and gain 5 lbs. its also an ongoing battle to maintain what i have and avoiding injuries.
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