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Originally Posted By Judgment⏩

OHHHHH, I missed that part. Oh fuk, I guess that means independent journalists are correct and all that "proof" you posted is ironclad. My humble apologies for my ignorance.

I don't know how, or why, you jumped to that strawman.

Please answer this question...

Are you OK with them building base stations and cell towers in residential areas, without funding studies and giving access to scientists to test it's safety?

05-02-2020, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩

Has anyone debunked this yet:

https://mdsafetech.org/2019/09/28/fi...w-cell-towers/

Very good link to read ^^^^. (Shame that the link to the study is broken.)

Position on the Health Effects from Radio Frequency/Microwave (RF/MW) Radiation in Fire Department Facilities from Base Stations for Antennas and Towers for the Conduction of Cell Phone Transmissions, easily passed.

The IAFF Resolution No. 15 states, “The International Association of Fire Fighters’ position on locating cell towers commercial wireless infrastructure on fire department facilities, as adopted by its membership in August 2004, is that the IAFF oppose the use of fire stations as base stations for towers and/or antennas for the conduction of cell phone transmissions until a study with the highest scientific merit and integrity on health effects of exposure to low-intensity RF/MW radiation is conducted and it is proven that such sitings are not hazardous to the health of our members.”

https://www.iaff.org/cell-tower-radiation/

TLDR:
The IAFF (The International Federation of Fire Fighters) calls for more studies concluding it's safety, and until then they want it banned to put cell towers on fire stations.

You've posted that link twice right? Hard for some miscers to dismiss them as kooks, maybe that's why they ignored it?

05-02-2020, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

Are research institutes banned from buying 5G equipment?

I don't think you realize how hard it is to get funding for studies, and they would need to be allowed access to thepatentedtechnology for studying.

It's not cheap or easy to buy the tech of companies like Verizon. I assume you. Joe Bloggs down the street couldn't buy a 5G cell tower off of verizon.

05-02-2020, 04:24 PM

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05-02-2020, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted By WINCEL19⏩

All this will lead to is QOL improvements. For example, you go to a restaurant and it automatically knows your favorite dish. You come home and it reminds you what chores need to be done. You get a reminder when you have an appointment. If your schedule dramatically changes because you were injured or something, hospitals can come help you.

I don't think you've thought about how life would dramatically changed, if we were automatically tracked and manipulated throughout the course of our day.

Please think about how ********, Twitter, and Youtube are controlling the narrative (by banning people and videos that disagree with the mainstream opinion), then think about what was revealed by Edward Snowden, and the Cambridge Analytica data scandal.

The level of social manipulation and tracking (of anyone who voluntarily 'plugs in' to a smart home/smart city) will be far beyond current capabilities.

Serious please think about what will happened when all the techniques we learned, from the Cambridge Analytica data scandal and Edward Snowden's revelations, are now automated in a smart home, smart office, and smart city.

If your child is kidnapped, they will be found, etc. There are benefits as well as risks. I think we have all the risks already.

We don't.

Automated real-time tracking and manipulation is not possible with current technology.

I don't think the added data speed poses much of an issue. There's already plenty of bandwidth to do voip AND record video. It doesn't make much of a difference.[/quote]

To be blunt, I don't think you have looked into the concept of smart homes, smart offices, and smart cities, for you to make that statement.

[QUOTE]There's a very real possibility here of substantially ELIMINATING CRIME. Drug dealing and child kidnapping would go down. Terrorism risks would decline considerably. You could even use the system to prevent suicides and murders. Since we already sacrificed the privacy, my thinking is we might as well reap the benefits. Imagine less police brutality because now everything is recorded. Fewer innocents going to jail because now we have video evidence.[/QUOTE]That's one possibility, however... What in the 20th century, and early 21st century, has lead you to believe that it's a probability that the leaders of the military industrial complex, intelligence community, and corporations, are motivated primarily by benevolence?

[QUOTE]As far as health risks, I do not believe there are any significant health risks to the 5g tech itself, and the science does back that up..[/QUOTE]You made a statement that there are independent studies concluding the safety of the 5G tech being rolled out, and I've asked you multiple times to present it.

05-02-2020, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted By Werke⏩

Beta when asked to cite studies about 5G hurting people, you linked a study on Microwaves which are over 300GHz while 5g is in the range of 25-90GHz. I don't care either way of this argument but actually link the correct stuff

I already addressed that, please read this...

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1603950291

05-02-2020, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted By WINCEL19⏩

Just people making popular decisions.

The mainstream media is pro-5G.

Trump is pro-5G.

The popular opinion is pro-5G.

Anti-5G is the minority opinion. So, I don't know why you made that statement.

05-02-2020, 04:35 PM

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Surely there's no relationship between OP's fantasies of a mass public-private partnership conspiring against him and him being a lifetime failure and wagecuck, right? Or is that too crazy tin foil hat type stuff.

05-02-2020, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted By conics⏩

that wont do sht, how do i protect myself when its out

Honestly...

1) Move to somewhere where they don't have 5G. There is no possible way to protect yourself 24/7, when it's rolled out.

Developing countries, in rural areas, will be the last places to get 5G.

If you don't want to join the activism, then honestly, moving is your best option.

2) Lessen exposure.

There aren't any microwave meters that currently are able to measure the 5G frequencies. So you have to wait for them.

We don't know if current EMF protection fabrics and paints, will be protective. Because we don't have access to 5G frequencies to test them, and nor do consumer level microwave readers measure 5G frequenceis.

That's why I said you need to join the fight to try to stop them.

Here's website selling gear, and you can find cheaper alternatives on Ebay.

https://emf-protection.com/

However, like I said... The gear needs to be personally tested... And you can't do that because it's impossible for a consumer to test if they protect against 5G, because the microwave readers for it don't exist.

Apathy is the reason why we got to this stage. Laying down and concluding"no point in trying to oppose them"is a reason why they are able to experiment with the 5G rollout on the public.

I'm not saying it's right, but here in the UK... Some people were burning down towers.

There is growing anti-5G sentiment. Here in the UK at least.

05-02-2020, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted By kessel81⏩

srs question for the 5G tinfoil bros -

The "mischievous secret society" that are apparently behind the mass deployment of 5G

You mean telecom corporations?

are also living ON EARTH. Their families are living here. Friends, etc.

Why the fuk would they introduce this supposedly harmful tech when they would be putting themselves and their families at risk? or they all plan to walk around the country in radiation-proof hazmat suits?.

If "The executives and workers of 5G use 5G, therefore it must be OK for health", Is a good argument to you. Then... "The executives and workers of the tobacco industy use tobacco, therefore it must be OK for health", must also a good argument to you. Because it's the exact same reasoning.

Your reasoning seems to be based on the assumption, that everyone deeply cares about their health, and the health of their children. However, we known for our personal lives, and statistics, that it's simply not true.

This the reality...

Obesity poses serious health risks, yet obesity is glorified in the mainstream media (Tess Holliday) and we have a record number of obese people.

Smoking and second hand smoke is universally acknowledged to be bad for health. Yet people smoke, smoke around their children, and even pregnant women smoke, or people smoke around pregnant women.

We all know the health risks of sex without a condom with randoms, yet people do it daily.

We all know that drinking to excess (in a single session, or daily) is bad for your health, yet people do it regularly.

Parents give their children chitty processed food daily.

People do things that put themselves and their families at risk of bad health, every single day. Across the planet.

I won't stop there though...

Do you think that all the executive and workers in the tobacco industry don't smoke, or smoke around their families, despite knowing the risks to health?

Do you think that all executives and workers, in factories polluting the air in places like China and Thailand, don't live in the same city that they are polluting?(Legislation is the reason why we have cleaner air in the west.)

Human beings can be self destructive, and they can also be chitty parents. It's extremely naive to think that corporate executives would not risk their own health, or the health of their family, for money.

They aren't all beacons of health, and healthy living.

05-02-2020, 04:55 PM

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When you see tanks rolling around with turrets that shoot 5g, I'll be concerned.

05-02-2020, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

So you mean the different telecom companies have exclusive purchase agreements with the manufacturers of 5G equipment, and no one else is allowed to buy any?

The telecom companies pay for the products to be manufactured, according to their patent.

Why would the manufacturers of 5G equipment be worried about scientists "ripping off their patented equipment", but not telecom companies?

Wat?

I could be wrong, but I don't think Verizon makes 5G equipment, they would merely buy it from whichever company does..

Yep, it cost a lot of money. At the cost is likely lower because they are making a mass purchase of a the equipment, and not making a single purchase.

Which is another reason why it's important they telecom companies provide the equipment, and funding, for studies.

Edit : Aside from that point, the study would not actually need the actual equipment, just the same characteristics of the signal it puts out.

No, the cell towers would also need to be tested, not just the signal. It isn't just the 5G frequency that poses the health, it's also the infrastructure (ie. the cell towers in residential areas), which I have said multiple times.

Testing the safety of exposure to the 5G base stations, small cell towers, and frequency is something that the telecom companies could easily provide. However, you are seriously proposing that a group of independent scientists purchase all of those things independently, which is frankly ridicous.

Again... It's not easy to get funding, and the equipment costs a lot of money.

05-02-2020, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩

The equipment meets current radiation standards, so what is there to study?

Are the current standards wrong?

This the frustrating thing, you are simply unwilling to do research.

Already addressed in the documentary.

Signing off for a couple days probably. If you really want to know the answer (and aren't just trolling like you always do) you can watch the documentary.

05-02-2020, 05:09 PM

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Jesus christ. This pandemic has shown most miscers are fuking retarded.

Scientists know more than the idiot who made your stupid Youtube video. They study this **** for a living

05-02-2020, 05:17 PM

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Pretty cool ads. Been waiting for this tech for a while. Cant wait.

Lol at virgins itt crying about their privacy and coronavirus and their health comparing targeted high energy radiation to 5g signals. Not even understanding the relationship between energy and frequency yet spending hours trying to discredit something they obviously know nothing about. Definition of a conspiritard.

Just. ****ing. lol.

All the more reason I'll take the benefits of tech over some basement dweller terrified of the outside world talking about "but the gubment master plan bad coming to get us" . No one gives af about your measly $70k/ yr income or your gay misc postings. It's actually laughable how you think you're the center of the universe.

Not to mention acting like the government needs a "trojan horse" to control your life and it's all a secret program to monitor your misc posts. Dude the government runs your life period and they dont need to hide it, youre apparently just too stupid to have noticed.

Dont pay taxes one year and see what happens. Choose not to wait at a red light and then dont show up in court and see what happens. Same story in every country across the world and for all of history.

Grow the fuk up and get with the program or get fuked.

Yeah you were indoctrinated to believe you are free and unique and blah blah blah. But real life turned out not to be a Disney movie and you didnt adapt.. So here you are wasting time ranting about some nonsense because you failed to play the game and are now trying to COPE.

Sorry (not really) for the longish post. It would be one thing if you guys lived in like Kazakhstan and were this stupid, but you live in a country full of opportunity and instead you waste your time on counter productive **** like this. Meanwhile people in china sending quantum satellites to space making you look that much dumber.

05-02-2020, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

You mean telecom corporations?

If "The executives and workers of 5G use 5G, therefore it must be OK for health", Is a good argument to you. Then... "The executives and workers of the tobacco industy use tobacco, therefore it must be OK for health", must also a good argument to you. Because it's the exact same reasoning.

Your reasoning seems to be based on the assumption, that everyone deeply cares about their health, and the health of their children. However, we known for our personal lives, and statistics, that it's simply not true.

This the reality...

Obesity poses serious health risks, yet obesity is glorified in the mainstream media (Tess Holliday) and we have a record number of obese people.

Smoking and second hand smoke is universally acknowledged to be bad for health. Yet people smoke, smoke around their children, and even pregnant women smoke, or people smoke around pregnant women.

We all know the health risks of sex without a condom with randoms, yet people do it daily.

We all know that drinking to excess (in a single session, or daily) is bad for your health, yet people do it regularly.

Parents give their children chitty processed food daily.

People do things that put themselves and their families at risk of bad health, every single day. Across the planet.

I won't stop there though...

Do you think that all the executive and workers in the tobacco industry don't smoke, or smoke around their families, despite knowing the risks to health?

Do you think that all executives and workers, in factories polluting the air in places like China and Thailand, don't live in the same city that they are polluting?(Legislation is the reason why we have cleaner air in the west.)

Human beings can be self destructive, and they can also be chitty parents. It's extremely naive to think that corporate executives would not risk their own health, or the health of their family, for money.

They aren't all beacons of health, and healthy living.

Brah now you're just clutching at straws.

5G, if it is actually as harmful to our health as you claim it to be, is completely different from all of the other things you mentioned that negatively affect our health. Here me out,

5G radiation exposure will be everywhere - at home, schools, parks, etc, humans will be exposed to it 24/7 for the most part in majority of the urban and some rural areas whether they like it or not. Tobacco and the other things you mentioned do not affect human health with the same magnitude because we have a choice to limit our exposure to those things. Key word - we can limit our exposure to those things. 5G? not so much. Wanna go for a walk in the park? Boom 5G laser beams everywhere.

So what I'm saying is that these telecom execs and their families will be undoubtedly exposed to 5G radiation. So tell me again why would they deploy this "harmful 5G killer laser beam tech" if they have no way of limiting their own exposure to it? Unless they plan to hide in a bunker from here on out, and I doubt that would be the case.

05-04-2020, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted By LtGoose⏩

LMFAO One*******Squats is banned.

Read this comment you salty *******. Can't wait for your alt account

Lmfao how did he get banned ?

05-04-2020, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted By DontbeSwak⏩

Lmfao how did he get banned ?

It's my understanding that he wished death upon a miscr and mods promptly cleaned house

05-04-2020, 07:37 AM

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whenever a new drug or technology comes out "it is completely safe and we know everything about it from our tests"
50 years later "actually, we were wrong it actually causes cancers and destroys the environment"

This can be shown with many examples of medicine, industrial chemicals, food additives, refrigerant, pesticides ect.

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Originally Posted By Devils⏩

whenever a new drug or technology comes out "it is completely safe and we know everything about it from our tests"
50 years later "actually, we were wrong it actually causes cancers and destroys the environment"

This can be shown with many examples of medicine, industrial chemicals, food additives, refrigerant, pesticides ect.

05-11-2020, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted By mp83⏩

Jesus christ. This pandemic has shown most miscers are fuking retarded.

Scientists know more than the idiot who made your stupid Youtube video. They study this **** for a living

Please show me the studies on the safety of 5G, and the safety of living next door to a 5G cell tower.

05-11-2020, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted By kessel81⏩

So what I'm saying is that these telecom execs and their families will be undoubtedly exposed to 5G radiation. So tell me again why would they deploy this "harmful 5G killer laser beam tech" if they have no way of limiting their own exposure to it?

Kessel, you asked why the people who are creating the infrastructure for 5G would put themselves and their families at direct risk, if it's harmful to health.

I pointed out that people who work for tobacco companies, put themselves and their families at direct risk (first hand and second hand smoke) when they smoke cigarettes or cigars.

The same reason why Tobacco executives smoke around their family, is the same reason why some 5G execs possibly do not care about the potential health risks to themselves or their family.

Again...

If "The executives and workers of 5G use 5G, therefore it must be OK for health", Is a good argument to you. Then... "The executives and workers of the tobacco industy use tobacco, therefore it must be OK for health", must also a good argument to you. Because it's the exact same reasoning.

05-11-2020, 03:14 AM

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I've been glad to see growing anti 5G sentiment across social media.

A lot of people don't want corporations and the governments collecting data on them. Smart devices gather data in order to work properly, that is literally how they work. Data is then kept in a corporate or government database.

Cambridge Analytica is an example of what corporations and governments can do with data.

(Short trailer of a Netflix documentary)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX8GxLP1FHo

China is an example of what governments can do when 5G smart devices are everywhere (facial recognition software is already being used in countries like the US and UK).

Even the mainstream media is trying to warn us...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLo3e1Pak-Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYftT5YgwVI

Some people are willing to allow Alphabet (Google), ********, and intelligence communities that much power over their lives, and the political process, through data gathering.

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An award winning independent documentary based around Smart Technology.

In case people don't know, 5G is for Smart Technology (aka wireless data collecting devices).

Here is the trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDMYc1qlhFY

Here is the full documentary. IMO it's the best documentary to give to someone who wants an introduction to why people are against 5G...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZTiT9ZSg3Q

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This author and scholar lays out the extent to which corporations use data to manipulate us.

She brilliantly lays out case studies (I never played Pokemon Go, but I had no idea what it's true intention was...)

You will need to turn on subtitles, because there are a few moments where they don't talk English.95% of the documentary is in English...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIXhnWUmMvw

With 5G they will be able to gather data about our offline lives (Smart devices literally gather data about your behaviour, and biometrics).

She talks about how Google secretly put a microphone in their NEST smart devices. They literally kept it a secret until someone dismantled it to look at the tech, and asked "WTF?!"

When Google got caught, they just claimed that it was a mistake.

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I was going to ignore this post, because it was just filled with insults, but it brings up a point that is often used as a counter argument to people who object to Smart cities..

Originally Posted By Masterchieffer⏩

Not to mention acting like the government needs a "trojan horse" to control your life and it's all a secret program to monitor your misc posts.

It's not just governments that will use 5G Smart Technology. In the US for example, 5G rollout and Smart Technology is corporate driven not government driven.

You, and some other miscers, seem to think it's simply not about wanting people to watch what we are doing. However, case after case of social media companies shows that data is power. Data gives corporations and governments the ability to predict behaviour, and influence behaviour.

As we are right now, if we use the right tech only (anti-tracking browsers, VPN, Duckduckgo, and encrypted email) you can have privacy online, only minimal cookies (if you choose that option) will be used to gather your data.

In a smart city, the population will no longer have the option of privacy, regarding data gathering. Literally walking through the city and going about your daily life will be used by corporations and governments to gather data.

Degrees of surveillance matter. Simply look at China's level of surveillance, and consider if you want to give corporations and governments that much control.

Please watch the short videos from Wired and Vice that I linked above, and please watch the documentaryThe Great Hack.

Again, it's not just governments that will use 5G smart tech.

I am also concerned about how the western military industrial complex will use the tech to intervene and destroy other countries. That's not a conspiracy theory BTW, Edward Snowden revealed to us through the documents that the US and UK were using surveillance communities to spy on leaders and corproations of other nations, as well as engage in tech warfare (e.g. creating the ability to shut down other nation's power grids).

An excerpt from the Brilliant film Snowden, based on the documents and experience of the whistleblower Edward Snowden....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frW8PQYXiq8

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OP's dear diary continues.

Cliffs:

Literally everyone but certain elite, 5g companies & people who agree with OP are dumber than bricks and can't think for themselves to save their life.

05-11-2020, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩

I was going to ignore this post, because it was just filled with insults

That post was pure vitriol. You’d think you’d stabbed his mother. And that cell tower builder dude, Christ...

This thread is actually pretty interesting from a psychological standpoint.

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I was thinking about getting a 5g phone but I only have an 8GB data plan. It would be kind of useless as I'd be burning through my data just to show how fast my new internet is.