1) Can't really comment on NY/NJ since I don't live there. Nor can I really comment about the nursing homes thing. Seems like a dumb move since they reversed the decision a week ago too.
As for the HCQ, here's a study done recentlyhttps://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410which says they couldn't find proof of HCQ being either good or bad for end-stage COVID patients (those intubated).

2) Social distancing has been proved to be effective: see Surgeon General, CDC, FDA, WHO guidelines. As for the vitamins part, you can't really fault him for not recommending vitamins because people will use that to twist his words, eg. "Fauci says upping vitamin D intake helps coronavirus, here's why that's false." People high up in medical fields can't just recommend things willy nilly since they're looked to as experts.
Can't comment on the back-and-forth about masks. That was plain stupidity.
I read the article regarding HCQ trials done by James Todaro. However, if you read the link I posted above, many more MDs are stating that HCQ hasn't been proven to be effective for even end-stage COVID patients, let alone the claims that it can prevent it entirely.

3) Not denying that it wasn't released by a lab in China. All I know is that coronaviruses are found in the wild bat population. Doesn't mean that they haven't been experimenting with it in labs.

4) That can be attributed to a lack of testing, but I can't comment 100% on that. Also, if you could post a .org study regarding the funeral homes and/or inflated numbers, I'd appreciate it. No offense, but I've seen enough of Project Veritas videos' to know that I don't trust their reporting.

Wife and I both had it right around Xmas here in S Cal. I am absolutely sure of it. I know lots of others that had similar symptoms around that time as well.

I'm not buying your stance on the vitamins issue. If that's the case, where's the apology for this whole thing sincenew york is reporting more "cases" under people staying at home.

I don't have a study.This is a common sense judgement. if you have these hospitals attributing covid counts to so many deaths, which is heard not only under veritas, and then you have all these other contributions from where influenza cases aren't counted/minimally, all this contributes to cases that cannot be trusted.

The conspiratard Trumpers won't believe it.

Lots of people have said that, taken an antibody test, and come back negative. It's, like, 'a thing' lol

Yall got whooshed. What I mean is...during the debate over socialized healthcare, Libs would always reference Europe as examples of how it works. GOP would always come back with "Europe isn't America; it wont work here"

Same logic now...Sweden not imploding over COVID doesn't mean America wont. Even with lockdown, look how bad things were? You really think no lockdown at all would have been better? How exactly would that make sense at all?

No idea why the stock market is so high. Who knows how long this thing will last.

lmao at believing any news that comes out of China...... They just want us to stay inside so our economy gets ****ed even more and they can dominate the world

I don't believe it was created in a lab, but I do think there's a good chance it was accidentally spread/released through a research lab in china study sars like viruses and the Chinese government knew about it almost immediately and continued to cover it up and downplay it as much as possible

Go fuk yourself

That's the dumbest thing I've heard. Then again, I'm not a socialist *******.

Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-...n-a-lab-rumour

It's a rumour that just won't die. When asked whether the COVID-19 virus was genetically engineered in a lab, scientists have already said "no" rather firmly, but the matter of the new coronavirus' origin is unlikely to be put to rest so easily.

Discussions around this subject have become even more pertinent since US government intelligence officials are reportedly investigating the potential source of the pandemic, focussing on theories that it may have originated in a laboratory, despite all evidence pointing to SARS-CoV-2 not being human-made.

"All evidence so far points to the fact the COVID-19 virus is naturally derived and not man-made," explains immunologist Nigel McMillan from the Menzies Health Institute Queensland.

"If you were going to design it in a lab the sequence changes make no sense as all previous evidence would tell you it would make the virus worse.No system exists in the lab to make some of the changes found."

Back in late March, we covered a study published in Nature Medicine, in which the researchers investigated the genomic data of SARS-CoV-2 - particularly the receptor-binding domain (RBD) sections of the virus - to try and discover how it mutated into the virulent and deadly version we're currently struggling to contain.

As a by-product of their research, they were able to determine that SARS-CoV-2 was not genetically manipulated.

"By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes," one of the researchers, Scripps Research immunologist Kristian Andersen, said at the time.

"Two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2."

Although it is clear the virus was not created in the lab,there have been ongoing concerns it may have 'escaped' a research facility, with most of the speculation - understandably - focussed on the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). However, it remains just speculation. The Washington Post recently reported that US embassy officials had safety concerns about the lab back in 2018, and the institute did keep a closely related bat virus - but even that's far from a smoking gun.

"The closest known relative of SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus named RaTG13, which was kept at the WIV. There is some unfounded speculation that this virus was the origin of SARS-CoV-2," explains University of Sydney evolutionary virologist, Edward Holmes.

"However, RaTG13 was sampled from a different province of China (Yunnan) to where COVID-19 first appeared and the level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change."

Now, it is important to note that viruses can mutate naturally anywhere - in animal hosts, in humans, or even in laboratory cell cultures. Unfortunately, it's difficult to determine where and how the new coronavirus acquired its mutations, although most researchers think the process involved an animal host.

Additionally, researchers are still investigating if the necessary mutations for causing the new disease occurred before or after SARS-CoV-2 made the jump to humans.

The institute at the centre of the controversy has repeatedly denied accusations of being the source of the pandemic. Back in March, head of bat coronavirus research at WIV, Shi Zhengli, explained that when she first received samples from early COVID-19 patients, she immediately did a thorough investigation at her department, finding no match between the viruses her lab had been working on, and COVID-19 patients.

"That really took a load off my mind," she told Scientific American. "I had not slept a wink for days."

What experts do agree on is that a pandemic like this is no surprise. Scientists have been warning governments for years that a new disease was on the horizon, and that many countries were woefully under-prepared.

For example, the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Anthony Fauci, told the incoming US government administration in January 2017 about the inevitability of a "surprise outbreak", urging them to make preparations.

"We've been aware for some time that another coronavirus, like SARS and MERS before it, could cause a pandemic, and so in many ways, the emergence of a new coronavirus with pandemic potential is not a surprise," explains La Trobe University epidemiologist Hassan Vally.

"We have to be careful to not aid those irresponsibly using this global crisis for political point-scoring by giving any oxygen to these and other rumours."

nationalpost.com/news/world/over-100-million-people-in-chinas-northeast-region-are-back-under-lockdown



second wave which resulted in 100 million ppl in lockdown in china. Good chance this happens in North america as well.

did China write this?

look at their team of "experts"

https://www.sciencealert.com/our-team

just lol. can't help but wonder where their funding comes from

1)

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...242547366.html

2) I don't really understand what you mean by this part. You're saying that they're attributing deaths that aren't covid to covid?

this pandemic has shown how arrogant, narcissistic and ignorant the majority of miscers (and people in general) are. Imaging being so arrogant that you think you know more than scientists about something they have devoted their whole lives to studying. The only reason covid hasn't been worse is because the lockdowns worked. Its even funnier because those same people are probably flat earthers lol

no, the second wave won't hit right away. It takes 1-2 weeks to show symptoms and the number of carriers right now is low, so itll probably take like 6-8 weeks to show, but when it does, it's gonna suck.

bahahahahahahaha.

2nd wave.
3rd wave.
4th wave.
5th wave.
6th wave.
7th wave.
8th wave.
9th wave.
10th wave.
11th wave.
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This pandemic has shown how arrogant, narcissistic and ignorant the majority of miscers (and people in general) are. Imaging being so arrogant that you think you know more than scientists about something they have devoted their whole lives to studying. The only reason Covid hasn't been worse is because the lockdowns worked. Its even funnier because those same people are probably flat earthers lol

No, the second wave won't hit right away. It takes 1-2 weeks to show symptoms and the number of carriers right now is low, so itll probably take like 6-8 weeks to show, but when it does, it's gonna suck.

Fukn lmao

This pandemic has shown how arrogant, narcissistic and ignorant the majority of miscers (and people in general) are. Imaging being so arrogant that you think you know more than scientists about something they have devoted their whole lives to studying. The only reason Covid hasn't been worse is because the lockdowns worked. Its even funnier because those same people are probably flat earthers lol

No, the second wave won't hit right away. It takes 1-2 weeks to show symptoms and the number of carriers right now is low, so itll probably take like 6-8 weeks to show, but when it does, it's gonna suck.

You really expect a bunch of vanity meathead bodybuilders to listen to some scientist?

dude, wear a mask when you go out. even just to protect others which wearing masks (yes any mask, doesn't need to be N95) can do.

you do understand that YOU can have COVID and unknowingly spread it to others who may be more susceptible to complications? you understand what that means right?

you do understand that even if you do not die from COVID, studies have shown that it can cause irreversible damage in the lungs of healthy young individuals?

you are worse than the normal ignorant people who just go along like sheep. you chose to spew misinformation because it has disrupted your life. when you or someone you infect due to your nonchalant attitude have irreversible lung damage will you still feel the same way? or 10 years from now when you need an inhaler everytime you hit the gym will it have been worth it?

open with precautions is what most reasonable people are saying. you are just saying OPEN OPEN OPEN MASKS ARE BAD and make yourself sound like an idiot.

Jesus Christ, this ****ing guy as well??? Not shocked with the estrogen filled bitching and whining in all the threads he participates in.