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post 1634753063 03-27-2021, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By zknarc
Most of the people om this anti-vax bent probably can't even tell you want RNA stands for. Never change misc.
How is that even relevant to the whole question on whether it's ethically moral to almost, if not sooner or later, actually enforce vaccines onto people who do not need it? Vaccines which will take years to have actual studies? Maybe we should ask the families of the people who died directly from the vaccine what they think?Are they anti-vax if they say no to it because their mom died then, according to your logic?

Lol. Just stop with this "anti-vax CT" bull****. Coin a new term, getting boring
Originally Posted By redmelly
It's gene therapy - by definition not a vaccine. But I now hear they only JUST changed the definition of a vaccine to fit this since they couldn't defend this point. And I didn't respond to your post because it's chocked full of BS and lies. BBC propaganda had got smooth brains going on and on.

Please take those injections. I'm actually happy people like you will line up for it. Got my popcorn ready for the chitshow coming.
isingmodel has probably taken it by now. I don't wish harm upon the people who have taken the vaccine or are going to take it. I hope we all make it out of this mess with and/or without it.

It's funny. Here we are arguing heavily about this issue, calling each other ****, offending each other. Yet if we sat down IRL at a bar, talking about anything else besides covid, we'd might go along pretty well.

Say no to mandatory vaccination and yes to choice. Don't discriminate people who do not wish to take it. The vaccine is suppose to protect yourself from getting sick. So take it and shut up
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It’s cute how people are PUSHING for it. Lmao bots
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
i'm waiting for the mass human trials to complete, good luck guinea pigs

btw the actual trials finish in 2023!
And that's when they can be licensed by the FDA.
Which is when they can start the mandates.
And when Bill Gates says we will return to "normal".
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Originally Posted By zknarc
Most of the people om this anti-vax bent probably can't even tell you want RNA stands for. Never change misc.
Really Nice Angus, obviously.

ITT: antiscience flat earther Qanon dipshyts who have cracked the case and determined that mRNA vaccines are dangerous and cause autism.

Everyone is getting the virus or the vaccine. If you’re young and healthy, both are safe and neither is likely to harm you but the vaccine is a bit safer still. If you’re in your 50s and up, or if you come into contact with people (like your parents) who are 50+, the math changes quickly and the vaccine becomes the vastly safer option. Everyone is getting one of the two - choose wisely.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Really Nice Angus, obviously.

ITT: antiscience flat earther Qanon dipshyts who have cracked the case and determined that mRNA vaccines are dangerous and cause autism.

Everyone is getting the virus or the vaccine. If you’re young and healthy, both are safe and neither is likely to harm you but the vaccine is a bit safer still. If you’re in your 50s and up, or if you come into contact with people (like your parents) who are 50+, the math changes quickly and the vaccine becomes the vastly safer option. Everyone is getting one of the two - choose wisely.
What? You cannot be serious...? Ubiquitous viruses are fought and defeated primarily by the T-Cell lymphocytes within our immune systems, Not from natural or artificially implanted antibodies, which is an absolutely essential missing factor in the epidemiological mortality calculations!

The Corona Vaccines have an Ingredient called “Syncytin” which is an mRNA virus. Doctors and Nurses are Injecting the Pathogenic piece of a virus protein called “Syncytin”.The Corona Vaccine Ingredient “Syncytin” is an mRNA virus that fuses-cells together into big-clumps which change into tumors. Doctors are claiming Syncytin decrease disease, but his Syncytin will actually increases disease. A normal virus only infects cells with receptors, but this vaccine infects all the body’s cells. All gene expression will be altered. Using Syncytin is like throwing gasoline on a fire.
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Originally Posted By Celsus
How is that even relevant to the whole question on whether it's ethically moral to almost, if not sooner or later, actually enforce vaccines onto people who do not need it? Vaccines which will take years to have actual studies?
isingmodel has probably taken it by now. I don't wish harm upon the people who have taken the vaccine or are going to take it. I hope we all make it out of this mess with and/or without it.
Unfortunately without the harm, those of us who want freedom to choose medical interventions will be pushed into taking it. There are a variety of vaccines that were taken off the market in the U.S. due to harmful side effects over time:

OPV
DTP
Small Pox was causing encephalitis and can be argued it was yanked in part due to this in early 70's. I mean, why not just keep the $$ flowing and keep it on the schedule? It could come back, right? Isn't that their argument for many vaccines, what could happen if we don't all take them?
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Originally Posted By DieselZ
It’s cute how people are PUSHING for it. Lmao bots
My parents are both 60, both healthy and fit. I told them get the stick ASAP as taking a 15% chance at being admitted to the hospital, a 5% chance of ICU admission and a 1% chance of death is WAYYYY safer. And if they’re older? Forget about it. Don’t be an antiscience poosy. We laugh at soyboys and ******* vegans don’t live a life of willful ignorance just because you think the lockdown was is excessive
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
My parents are both 60, both healthy and fit. I told them get the stick ASAP as taking a 15% chance at being admitted to the hospital, a 5% chance of ICU admission and a 1% chance of death is WAYYYY safer. And if they’re older? Forget about it. Don’t be an antiscience poosy. We laugh at soyboys and ******* vegans don’t live a life of willful ignorance just because you think the lockdown was is excessive
You are a chit son. When they die esrly they’ll think of what you did. You don’t deserve to have parents Srs
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Really Nice Angus, obviously.

ITT: antiscience flat earther Qanon dipshyts who have cracked the case and determined that mRNA vaccines are dangerous and cause autism.

Everyone is getting the virus or the vaccine. If you’re young and healthy, both are safe and neither is likely to harm you but the vaccine is a bit safer still. If you’re in your 50s and up, or if you come into contact with people (like your parents) who are 50+, the math changes quickly and the vaccine becomes the vastly safer option. Everyone is getting one of the two - choose wisely.
Don't forget mind control by Bill Gates, great reset and mRNA modifying your DNA.
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Originally Posted By Celsus
Careful, you might get canceled in this world for thinking outside the box like this, it will do you no good in the long run, I recommend you stop thinking like this. If you get a chance to take the vaccine, just do it. For the solidarity
I'm not following your point here. How do we know nothing will happened to the millions of people vaccinated sooner or later due to the vaccine again?

Are we going to pretend that if people start dropping dead in the future, and it is because of the vaccines, that paid-scientist and governments will not try to hide the fact that they did actually die due to the vaccines? When they were the ones who told everyone to get vaccinated? Really?

This is already happening by the way - there are thousands of people who had the vaccine and all kinds of crazy things happened to them. I've read and seen tons of posts and stories about people dropping dead right after, days after, or weeks after. Of course, you will not find all of these in the MSM. In fact, people who posted said stories on for example IG or FB, would get a Covid19 tag saying this info is not confirmed, so basically social media is telling you that it's not true because it's not confirmed by the WHO.

You can decide for yourself if all of them or most of the deaths were just completely random, fake or if they in fact did die from something that was triggered from said vaccine. And then just believe that the few who they actually reported officially died from the vaccine like the Astra I posted earlier where in Europe, a lot of people died from it. A few here and there, nothing too major reported. I mean, could you imagine if they reported all of them? I can't

Edit: I also just have to LOL at people like you, no offense, man. People are rushing to take their vaccines and be a good boy, so daddy government will allow yuh freedom, yet you are so naive to not realize that this virus is just going to keep mutating to different types which means you'll have to be vaccinating your ass of for god knows how long. You're just a living experiment. Where are your balls?

The world did a huge mistake closing everything. The Great Reset as World Economic Forum so proudly boats about is what is really happening right now to the economy. Why and how? Well, from all the lockdowns and restrictions. This stuff is way bigger than just a vaccine, and there's no conspiracy in this.

The world should've been kept open, and if you are weak and scared, stay your ass home and wait for your vaccine then. But no, they had to just fuk it all up for everyone instead. It's pathetic and I actually tell people this IRL as well when a covid discussion pops up.
Thank you!
Well said!
Originally Posted By Celsus
"But Celsus, what if your mother or best friend died from covid??" First of all, there's a 0,1% chance of that, second of all, it would not change my mind. I could not justify closing the world, fuking up the future generations and the economy, giving more and more up to the higher class. I would have to take my 0,1% chance of survival instead
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Originally Posted By Paul
statistical significance
This is a term you don't understand, evidenced by the rest of the post. It's never too late to stop posting, Paul.
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pretty fun watching people reeeee at anyone who dares to not be interested in getting jabbed with a quickly developed vaccine for a virus that amounts to a mild/moderate case of the sniffles for like 90% of people who catch it.

Why you reee'ing so much brahs, why do you care if people don't wanna take it? fukkin thing doesn't even protect you from getting covid so you're gunna be a virus spreading phgt regardless.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
My parents are both 60, both healthy and fit. I told them get the stick ASAP as taking a 15% chance at being admitted to the hospital, a 5% chance of ICU admission and a 1% chance of death is WAYYYY safer. And if they’re older? Forget about it. Don’t be an antiscience poosy. We laugh at soyboys and ******* vegans don’t live a life of willful ignorance just because you think the lockdown was is excessive
Dude..I think you need to read up a bit more before advising people, especially your parents to run out & get this vaccine. It will be fuking people up. I’ll take CV a hundred times over before this vaccine because my body has the ability to fight it off, & gets better at it every go around. Antigenic shift (mutation) is a common normal biological function. Even though Cronavirus are considered more stable in this regard than flu/virus, nevertheless inevitably will occur within large population infection spread. This is precisely why vaccines have little to no chance of effectiveness for Corona type viruses. History has proven this true over and over. Corna vaccines are notoriously problematic ( mostly due to rapid weakening) and have never been successful.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
My parents are both 60, both healthy and fit. I told them get the stick ASAP as taking a 15% chance at being admitted to the hospital, a 5% chance of ICU admission and a 1% chance of death is WAYYYY safer. And if they’re older? Forget about it. Don’t be an antiscience poosy. We laugh at soyboys and ******* vegans don’t live a life of willful ignorance just because you think the lockdown was is excessive
Your parents raised a smooth brained idiot. They probably will listen to you.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
This is a term you don't understand, evidenced by the rest of the post. It's never too late to stop posting, Paul.
You are the embodiment of StockHolm Syndrome.
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Originally Posted By Paul
What? You cannot be serious...? Ubiquitous viruses are fought and defeated primarily by the T-Cell lymphocytes within our immune systems, Not from natural or artificially implanted antibodies, which is an absolutely essential missing factor in the epidemiological mortality calculations!

The Corona Vaccines have an Ingredient called “Syncytin” which is an mRNA virus. Doctors and Nurses are Injecting the Pathogenic piece of a virus protein called “Syncytin”.The Corona Vaccine Ingredient “Syncytin” is an mRNA virus that fuses-cells together into big-clumps which change into tumors. Doctors are claiming Syncytin decrease disease, but his Syncytin will actually increases disease. A normal virus only infects cells with receptors, but this vaccine infects all the body’s cells. All gene expression will be altered. Using Syncytin is like throwing gasoline on a fire.
Lol

Enjoy your life on the fringes of society

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Originally Posted By iifymbro
pretty fun watching people reeeee at anyone who dares to not be interested in getting jabbed with a quickly developed vaccine for a virus that amounts to a mild/moderate case of the sniffles for like 90% of people who catch it.

Why you reee'ing so much brahs, why do you care if people don't wanna take it? fukkin thing doesn't even protect you from getting covid so you're gunna be a virus spreading phgt regardless.
Because they doubt their choices and need reassurance they are doing the right thing by everyone joining them in their bad decisions? These people have been followers their entire lives.
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can't stop the common cold or flu....and you think this thing is going to be vaxxed away

tbh i am concerned abut the next truly deadly virus that we will have no resources and even poorer health to deal with .
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Take the time to watch this documentary.
It will put this Covid pandemic in perspective.

https://hdclump.com/the-flu-that-killed-50-million/
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
My parents are both 60, both healthy and fit. I told them get the stick ASAP as taking a 15% chance at being admitted to the hospital, a 5% chance of ICU admission and a 1% chance of death is WAYYYY safer. And if they’re older? Forget about it. Don’t be an antiscience poosy. We laugh at soyboys and ******* vegans don’t live a life of willful ignorance just because you think the lockdown was is excessive
Lol.. I am not going to involve myself in what kind of decision you had your own parents do.

I personally told both of mine to do what they want, think for themselves, read, and take their own decision. I did give them my personal opinion and recommended to at least wait until a few years have gone by to see actual long term effect and studies instead. But I did not tell them "take it!" nor "do not take it!"

Now we do the wait race to see which of our parents die and of which reason. Right? lol... what a situation.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Dude..I think you need to read up a bit more before advising people, especially your parents to run out & get this vaccine. It will be fuking people up. I’ll take CV a hundred times over before this vaccine because my body has the ability to fight it off, & gets better at it every go around. Antigenic shift (mutation) is a common normal biological function. Even though Cronavirus are considered more stable in this regard than flu/virus, nevertheless inevitably will occur within large population infection spread. This is precisely why vaccines have little to no chance of effectiveness for Corona type viruses. History has proven this true over and over. Corna vaccines are notoriously problematic ( mostly due to rapid weakening) and have never been successful.
We’re gonna have annual CV vaccines just like with the flu. And I’m sure low-IQ internet scientists who took Humbio in undergrad are gonna crack the case and figure out how incredibly dangerous they are. OMG ya gotta work your immune system like you work a muscle right bro?

The vaccine is safer than the virus for all age groups, and vastly safer than the virus for older people. Get stuck.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Lol

Enjoy your life on the fringes of society

Another prime example of mixing a small amount of knowledge with some arrogance and you get an antivaxxer.
Enjoy trying to fight off that new mutation while fuking your body’s immune system over. Go read up on Syncytin. Then report back, maybe you’ll actually post something intelligent next time
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
We’re gonna have annual CV vaccines just like with the flu. And I’m sure low-IQ internet scientists who took Humbio in undergrad are gonna crack the case and figure out how incredibly dangerous they are. OMG ya gotta work your immune system like you work a muscle right bro?

The vaccine is safer than the virus for all age groups, and vastly safer than the virus for older people. Get stuck.
It’s not safer, you will not be able to fight off new mutations. As I’ve stated, a normal virus only infects cells with receptors, but this vaccine infects all the body’s cells. All gene expression will be altered.

Wtf @ anti-vaxxer? I just had the Shingles vaccine dumbass
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Originally Posted By Paul
Enjoy trying to fight off that new mutation while fuking your body’s immune system over. Go read up on Syncytin. Then report back, maybe you’ll actually post something intelligent next time
In 2005 an animal study was done with SARS-CoV-1 MNRA vaccines on ferrets. Two doses were administered in the same manor as the SARS-CoV-2 COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines. The ferrets showed no adverse reaction and seemed to be completely healthy. After some time the ferrets were exposed to the SARS-CoV-1 corona virus in the wild. The ferrets died. The mRNA Vaccine had caused a cytokine storm, a fetal cascade of exaggerated immune responses. The SARS-CoV-1 vaccines was not further developed.
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Originally Posted By deltpecx
Thank you!
Well said!




My health is MY responsibility no one else's.

When God says; "Your time is up." Is is up.
I agree. Your health IS your responsibility, and other people should not suffer a dull life nor be enforced into injecting themselves with something they do not trust, BECAUSE you did not take responsibility for your health in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. It makes zero sense.

I don't like bringing in God and religion when discussing the matter, but I'll agree with the point: Everyone will die sooner or later. But the way things are going, not only are people dying from covid, but from depression , hopelessness, anger is fueling, frustration is growing, all because of 2 more weeks.
Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
Lol

Enjoy your life on the fringes of society

Another prime example of mixing a small amount of knowledge with some arrogance and you get an antivaxxer.
Lmao, again with the anti-vaxxer. What if they support all pervious vaccines, just not this one? What does that make one then, smartass?
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lol at anti vaxxers, even trump and his sons got the vaccine already. If you still think this is some democrat/bill gates/'great reset' ploy, then just ****ing lol at you.
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Originally Posted By tendies
lol at anti vaxxers, even trump and his sons got the vaccine already. If you still think this is some democrat/bill gates/'great reset' ploy, then just ****ing lol at you.
Lol @ labeling people anti-vaxxers. If you actually read through the thread you would see most if not all had other vaccines, as I stated, I just had the shingles vax. Clearly you don’t fukin get it, so I’ll repeat myself..viruses are fought & defeated primarily by T-Cell lymphocytes within our immune systems, Not from natural or artificially implanted antibodies, especially those with fukin Syncytin!

Can you all let Trump go by now? FFS he’s been out of office for months & you still have to bring the guy up. Rent free.
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Originally Posted By Celsus
I agree. Your health IS your responsibility, and other people should not suffer a dull life nor be enforced into injecting themselves with something they do not trust, BECAUSE you did not take responsibility for your health in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s. It makes zero sense.

I don't like bringing in God and religion when discussing the matter, but I'll agree with the point: Everyone will die sooner or later. But the way things are going, not only are people dying from covid, but from depression , hopelessness, anger is fueling, frustration is growing, all because of 2 more weeks.Lmao, again with the anti-vaxxer. What if they support all pervious vaccines, just not this one? What does that make one then, smartass?
The mentioning God was half satire to make the point that our demise is really out of our hands.
It is going to happen sooner or later.

I am a God believer though.

I too am not against vaccines.
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Originally Posted By redmelly
In 2005 an animal study was done with SARS-CoV-1 MNRA vaccines on ferrets. Two doses were administered in the same manor as the SARS-CoV-2 COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines. The ferrets showed no adverse reaction and seemed to be completely healthy. After some time the ferrets were exposed to the SARS-CoV-1 corona virus in the wild. The ferrets died. The mRNA Vaccine had caused a cytokine storm, a fetal cascade of exaggerated immune responses. The SARS-CoV-1 vaccines was not further developed.
This.
Everyone should read up on how this vaccine will inevitably cause a cytokine storm within the body.
Scary chit.
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Originally Posted By Paul
This.
Everyone should read up on how this vaccine will inevitably cause a cytokine storm within the body.
Scary chit.
That's what rapidly killed a lot of people during The Spanish Flu pandemic.

Check out the video link I posted.

That pandemic WAS TRULY scary!
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