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post 1634750613 03-27-2021, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted By messomi
they even recommended to not do your own research a while back cause it's dangerous lmao

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startsw...es-to-science/
Jeuss Christ. You know most sheep believe this. Clown world on steroids. Just wait until majority get vaccine and the covid camps open. Just like the nazi majority will support our death.
post 1634750693 03-27-2021, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted By XPmpnII
imo a majority of ppl taking the vaccine are just blindly following and doing what they’re told, social pressure, etc

I just don’t understand why tf ppl would want that chit in their body

Do they legitimately believe they’re gonna die without it? I mean, vaccine or not, everyone will die at some point or another

Too many ppl are operating off of and being led by fear
The majority of anti vax people are just blindly following the anti science crowd

Isn't it hypocrisy to rant about the sheeple being afraid, then follow up with fear of a vaccine?
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Originally Posted By Celsus
Trusting your instincts and your own brain using reason and logic is dangerous and IRRESPONSIBLE! Your local minister of health confirms they are SAFE! Do you have a medical degree in virology? No? Then do not speak! YOU might be the problem and reason MILLIONS of people might die!

I am trying to HELP you!


You're grasping. If you die from Covid, you are most likely an old person with several underlying issues. If you are younger, you still have underlying issues in which Covid promoted the death. The same can be said about the vaccines: If you die from it, you most likely are dying soon anyway or/and have several underlying issues promoted by the vaccine.

So it's the same bull**** either way; The unhealthy and the sick people are the ones in the danger zone, which brings me back to my previous point about just closing the whole planet "because of them". The fact is that most people will survive getting Covid. Therefor, nothing can justify to me that in order to "become normal" again, everyone has to take the vaccine. It makes zero sense.

Where is OP spouting CT garbage? Is he really doing that or is he simply giving an opinion in which you do not agree with because you are so intelligent enough to do your own findings? What if he actually did his own research and his posts are now based upon his findings? Oh, but his findings are wrong, but yours are right, meaning he is automatically a conspiracy theorist is what you are saying
If you are 70+, you have a 0.002% (at most) fatality rate following the Pfizer shot, versus a 5+% fatality rate from COVID infection.

I get it, numbers are difficult, see if you can find a small child to explain the above figures to you.
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post 1634750923 03-27-2021, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
If you are 70+, you have a 0.002% (at most) fatality rate following the Pfizer shot, versus a 5+% fatality rate from COVID infection.

I get it, numbers are difficult, see if you can find a small child to explain the above figures to you.
All about saving the grandparents while ignoring the facts that you will have to get vaccinated for years in order to save them.

Meh, enjoy your jabs
post 1634751113 03-27-2021, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted By jasticus
It’s not a belief system you paniccell. the virus isn’t even deadly. 99.99% survival rate. Fist your self
It has a 15% hospitalization rate for people in their late 50s, and it only goes up with age. How many times have your parents been admitted to a hospital because of the flu? The problem isn’t merely the mortality and ICU rates which are high for older people but the ridiculously high hospitalization rate. My parents have never been hospitalized nor have my fiancé’s parents. If they all get COVID - and everyone is getting either the virus or the vaccine - most likely one of the four is getting admitted. That’s a big fukin deal mate. Vaccines are far safer.
Originally Posted By Celsus
wondering. Do you think the fact that there are people doubting the issue is going to ruin things for your future?
All about saving the grandparents while ignoring the facts that you will have to get vaccinated for years in order to save them.

Meh, enjoy your jabs
What’s it like being a prescience antivaxxer ******* in the company of Jenny McArthy and Jim Carrry.

Everyone should get the vaccine ASAP so we can put this behind us. Leftist kunts like Obiden are exploiting the crisis to promote their radical leftist BS
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
It has a 15% hospitalization rate for people in their late 50s, and it only goes up with age. How many times have your parents been admitted to a hospital because of the flu? The problem isn’t merely the mortality and ICU rates which are high for older people but the ridiculously high hospitalization rate. My parents have never been hospitalized nor have my fiancé’s parents. If they all get COVID - and everyone is getting either the virus or the vaccine - most likely one of the four is getting admitted. That’s a big fukin deal mate. Vaccines are far safer.
No it’s not. Look at the *******s being hospitalized. Most are obese and vitamin d deficient. Wake up retard irs just the people who should be dead are the ones being hospitalized.
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Originally Posted By Celsus
Why are you so hell bent for the vaccine to be safe? Just wondering. Do you think the fact that there are people doubting the issue is going to ruin things for your future?
You might as well ask me "why are you so hell bent for the world to revolve around the sun"? It's you who seems to struggle with reality, so take the issue up with yourself.

Certainly the existence of antivax retards could keep the world from returning to full normalcy for longer than needs to be. Fortunately they are quite rare.
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Originally Posted By jasticus
No it’s not. Look at the *******s being hospitalized. Most are obese and vitamin d deficient. Wake up retard irs just the people who should be dead are the ones being hospitalized.
15% of adults in their late 50s should be dead? 15% of miscers’ parents should be dead? People who have decades of normal healthy life left? All so you can avoid a jab? Grow a pair *******
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
You might as well ask me "why are you so hell bent for the world to revolve around the sun"? It's you who seems to struggle with reality, so take the issue up with yourself.

Certainly the preponderance of antivax retards could keep the world from returning to full normalcy for longer than needs to be. Fortunately they are quite rare.
Returning to full normalcy? We don’t need a vaccine for that. SARS-COV-19 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.

Btw..you have no control of the Earth’s rotation..wtf are you even trying to compare here? Laws of Physics vs. bodily autonomy?
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Agree with you OP, but it's a sensitive thing. I have good friends who are smart, good people, but they believe the news and the authorities. I have lost quite a bit of respect for some people I love through this whole covid thing. To believe the mainstream narrative you really are kind of an NPC. All the info is out there.

I just avoid the topic when I'm with friends who believe the whole covid thing. Really sucks man.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Returning to full normalcy? We don’t need a vaccine for that. SARS-COV-19 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.
yep , by vaccinating so early they are encouraging new tougher variants that will require more and more jabs as the vaccine will not work on them, good luck with that
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
15% of adults in their late 50s should be dead? 15% of miscers’ parents should be dead? People who have decades of normal healthy life left? All so you can avoid a jab? Grow a pair *******
Sure if they obese and sickly. Stop being so god damn emotional you sheepcell. Once again those *******s being hostpailized are obese and vitamin d deficient and sick. Maybe it’s their fault. They’ve had years of being able to get heskthy. Fk them. We shouldn’t give up our rights for sick dead people
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I am shocked that the ones defending the vaccine are the resident lefties... lmao libs gon lib
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A friend of mine has had the vaccine has barely been out of his door for a year and says he doesn't want to meet up until FCKIN 2022!

and he's a smart fella
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
yep , by vaccinating so early they are encouraging new tougher variants that will require more and more jabs as the vaccine will not work on them, good luck with that
This is exactly what is happening. As I stated before the places with the highest amount of vaccines taken..are also the area with the highest new mutations.

Their body will not be able to fight off the new mutation, and they will be spreading it like wildfire. The new variant could be so strong that even an unvaxxed healthy individual will have difficulty fighting it off.
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Originally Posted By Titansfan08
I am shocked that the ones defending the vaccine are the resident lefties... lmao libs gon lib
R states have been getting on with vaccinations like everyone else. DeSantis' Florida has been nailing the vaccine rollout. The vaccines were developed during an R administration. This isn't left vs right, it's a small cabal of sub 50 IQ mouthbreathers versus normal people.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
yep , by vaccinating so early they are encouraging new tougher variants that will require more and more jabs as the vaccine will not work on them, good luck with that
that was the plan all along in the near future you are going to have to take a "vaccine" every single year to update your immune system just like a windows computer since your natural defenses are going to be completely toast.


also I predict that there is going to be a new "strain" that is going to have almost the same effects as HIV remember when those people that took the vaccine all tested positive for HIV and later they said it was just an error lol.
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Originally Posted By Paul
This is exactly what is happening. As I stated before the places with the highest amount of vaccines taken..are also the area with the highest new mutations.
explained brilliantly here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
They are trying to discredit this guy even though he's spent his life developing vaccines and he worked for GAVI, the Bill & Melinda Gate's foundation vaccine organization. He's willing to stick his neck out.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
R states have been getting on with vaccinations like everyone else. DeSantis' Florida has been nailing the vaccine rollout. The vaccines were developed during an R administration. This isn't left vs right, it's a small cabal of sub 50 IQ mouthbreathers versus normal people.
I agree with you. It's not an R vs L issue. There are plenty of people on both sides and the middle who don't want to take an MRNA gene therapy injection for a virus with 99.7% survival statistics.
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Originally Posted By jasticus
Sure if they obese and sickly. Stop being so god damn emotional you sheepcell. Once again those *******s being hostpailized are obese and vitamin d deficient and sick. Maybe it’s their fault. They’ve had years of being able to get heskthy. Fk them. We shouldn’t give up our rights for sick dead people
And the flu has mysteriously disappeared, and the PCR test is not designed to diagnose anything since it picks up old, benign viral matter.
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Originally Posted By redmelly
I agree with you. It's not an R vs L issue. There are plenty of people on both sides and the middle who don't want to take an MRNA gene therapy injection for a virus with 99.7% survival statistics.
Unsurprisingly you dodged the previous post when confronted with actual numbers, now onto the next CT vomit spewing about "gene therapy". Very predictable stuff.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner
15% of adults in their late 50s should be dead? 15% of miscers’ parents should be dead? People who have decades of normal healthy life left? All so you can avoid a jab? Grow a pair *******
So because people have been living decades of normal UNHEALTHY life, people like me and OP should grow a pair and take the vaccine is what you are saying. So people like me who live healthy, should take the jab, despite not needing it, because of the sick people. If you ask me, something is actually wrong with people like you, not people like me and OP.

Random study:

8. mars 2021:

"About 78% of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a new study Monday."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covi...-or-obese.html

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm

I don't even live in America, I live in Europe and it's the same thing here. Most people getting hospitalized are unhealthy and sick people. Of course such people will have a hard time either way, covid or the flu.


I don't wish death upon people, but I sure as hell will not put up with bull**** like this, and neither should you really

Originally Posted By Paul
Returning to full normalcy? We don’t need a vaccine for that. SARS-COV-19 will not/cannot be contained or eradicated. What is going on right now, is known in epidemiology as the pathogen endemic equilibrium phase, (viral stasis) and is perfectly normal. Virulence weakening and dilution is what always happens when mutations and naturally acquired herd immunity is occurring throughout the populations. Invariably mutation causes infection rate increase ( seasonality still being the biggest factor) and lethality rate decrease, henceforth it becomes ubiquitous and permanent. Vaccination at this stage is essentially pointless.
Now, the problem seems to be that because we are trying our absolute best to avoid said herd immunity by staying home, keeping distance, basically living like robots, the virus is having a cozy time enjoying its freedom, mutating to stronger and stronger viruses it seems as they are reported every month.

Again; we should have never closed anything. This is all a scheme. I don't claim to know what exactly the scheme is, nor the exact people behind it, but the economy of the middle class is falling and private businesses are going down the drain. People are killing themselves because of the fact that the world has changed with its lockdowns. Depression. Our future children are the ones who will have to clean up this mess and it could all be avoided if we never started in the first place.
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Originally Posted By redmelly
They are trying to discredit this guy even though he's spent his life developing vaccines and he worked for GAVI, the Bill & Melinda Gate's foundation vaccine organization. He's willing to stick his neck out.
Anyone who doesn’t submit is discredited
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
Ops, these 2 fellas are sub 50 IQ mouthbreathers according to isingmodel. Don't listen to a single word these sub 50 IQ mouthbreathers are saying in this video.

Right, isingmodel? That's what you are saying
Originally Posted By isingmodel
Unsurprisingly you dodged the previous post when confronted with actual numbers, now onto the next CT vomit spewing about "gene therapy". Very predictable stuff.
Dude's playing chess with miscers
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
Unsurprisingly you dodged the previous post when confronted with actual numbers, now onto the next CT vomit spewing about "gene therapy". Very predictable stuff.
It's gene therapy - by definition not a vaccine. But I now hear they only JUST changed the definition of a vaccine to fit this since they couldn't defend this point. And I didn't respond to your post because it's chocked full of BS and lies. BBC propaganda had got smooth brains going on and on.

Please take those injections. I'm actually happy people like you will line up for it. Got my popcorn ready for the chitshow coming.
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Most of the people on this anti-vax bent probably can't even tell you want RNA stands for. Never change misc.
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Originally Posted By zknarc
Most of the people om this anti-vax bent probably can't even tell you want RNA stands for. Never change misc.
Explain it to us. Go copy / pasta for us, you big genius.
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i'm waiting for the mass human trials to complete, good luck guinea pigs

btw the actual trials finish in 2023!
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
Unsurprisingly you dodged the previous post when confronted with actual numbers, now onto the next CT vomit spewing about "gene therapy". Very predictable stuff.
To show statistical significance for a virus of this type, a vaccine must show efficacy, (save lives, Period.) However, when the overall death rate is between 0.2 and 0.5 %, there will be little to no benefit. In other words, SARS-COV-19 virus is far too weak right now to show a vaccine effectiveness rate numerically, at population scale.
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