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05-24-2018, 10:10 AM
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Anyone want my D800?
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05-24-2018, 11:02 AM
#2462
Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
This.
use the self timer set to 2s or 5s.
<30 seconds you don't need bulb + remote so set a delay on the shutter button or use the timer and you're done. And for night sky shots without star trails you'll be shooting shorter exposures than that anyway.
Here's a 100% crop of a pano night shot I took in Japan which was several seconds. No remote used and it was windy as hell out there. Gitzo was at full extension with the camera about 7ft up and weighed down from the center hook with a camera bag.
16 bit TIFF looks even better than this imgur compressed garbage but you get the idea.
05-26-2018, 08:10 PM
#2463
are there any solid free photo editing programs out there? i don't need anything crazy, just the basics for manipulating the colors and chit a little bit
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05-26-2018, 08:24 PM
#2464
Originally Posted By somfking⏩
GIMP
https://www.gimp.org/
are there any solid free photo editing programs out there? i don't need anything crazy, just the basics for manipulating the colors and chit a little bit
and for raw files https://www.darktable.org/
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05-27-2018, 08:39 PM
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just did my first shoot with my 80D today at a local park. took about 250 pics and these are the only ones i really found good enough for my liking. what is a normal ratio for keeping pics vs total taken? also, would love some feedback on what i could do better or what i'm doing wrong!
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05-28-2018, 02:50 PM
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Just got back from an Alaskan cruise with the wife. I took 3700 photos, here's a few…
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05-29-2018, 06:14 AM
#2467
Originally Posted By somfking⏩
I like your first two, the last three don't do much for me. Sometimes a great camera and lens can make a picture of a turd look super crisp, professional, clear, but at the end of the day it's still a picture of a turd. I take basic shots of water, or a brick wall, every once in a while too, but if what is impressive is the quality of the photo over the subject of the photo, then IMO it's not something to write home about.
just did my first shoot with my 80D today at a local park. took about 250 pics and these are the only ones i really found good enough for my liking. what is a normal ratio for keeping pics vs total taken? also, would love some feedback on what i could do better or what i'm doing wrong!
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One problem I think alot of people deal with starting out, and something I still deal with, is convincing yourself a picture is good, so that you didn't come away from a trip or a day of shooting with nothing to show for it. Sometimes the cream of the crop can still be terrible, just because it's the best turd doesn't mean it's still not a turd.
I have about 200 pictures out of 8,000 pictures that I've saved that I consider my better shots. Number of pictures taken is probably closer to double that, in the last 10 years. Not a high number of pictures at all, but I don't shoot a ton.
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Jelly, would love to go one day. What lenses did you take?
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05-29-2018, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
I think a good habit to get into with landscapes is leaving the camera in the bag and trying to visualize the shot first. Sometimes the first couple of times you visit a place is more of a scouting exercise either because you weren't prepared or the light wasn't interesting. And of course sometimes you have to be really patient like landscape photographers were once forced to be because they were shooting on film and had to wait for the right moment.
One problem I think alot of people deal with starting out, and something I still deal with, is convincing yourself a picture is good, so that you didn't come away from a trip or a day of shooting with nothing to show for it. Sometimes the cream of the crop can still be terrible, just because it's the best turd doesn't mean it's still not a turd.
One of my favorite photos took an hour even though I shot maybe 10 frames. I knew it would only work when it was overcast but the sun kept showing up and there were people walking around. I already knew what exposure I was going to use and chose a 3 stop filter. I'd already visualized the composition, everything was set up โ I just had to wait for the light to do its thing. I could have easily shot 100 photos that were garbage and moved on to the next location but I knew I probably wouldn't be returning for a few years so I committed to the shot and it paid off.
Sometimes you have to learn how to work quickly. Another one of my favorite photos of a historic site could only be taken at night as part of a tour. There were about 20 people in the group and you weren't allowed to leave the group. The guide started telling a story with everyone off to the side so I had 2 minutes to get the shot. Took a 3 shot pano using my tilt-shift lens to get it all in with no converging verticals. Each frame was a 20 second exposure. As soon as I heard the shutter click on the last frame they all walked through the shot. I still haven't seen anyone take a shot from there that looks like it probably because of that restriction.
Shooting a lot of images might ultimately be the safest way to do it but there are definitely situations where it's a waste of time or you need to work quickly and make it count.
05-29-2018, 07:38 AM
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05-29-2018, 07:59 AM
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OK brahs:
I have the opportunity to shoot at an abandoned building. I am bringing my Sony A6000, tripod, speedlite, and a flash light.
Do you guys have any tips to get the best out of this experience? I have a 12mm, 18-200mm, 50mm, and the kit 18-50.
Thanks in advanced.
I have the opportunity to shoot at an abandoned building. I am bringing my Sony A6000, tripod, speedlite, and a flash light.
Do you guys have any tips to get the best out of this experience? I have a 12mm, 18-200mm, 50mm, and the kit 18-50.
Thanks in advanced.
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05-29-2018, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
Good points, we take alot of tours it seems, of historical sites, old ass mansions or distilleries and when you're in a group it makes it hard to take pictures without everyone else ending up in it. I tend to just hang back and shoot as we leave an area, while the guide is yapping and others are taking pictures, it gives you time to think on your shot, then when they exit you have a short amount of time to make it happen.
I think a good habit to get into with landscapes is leaving the camera in the bag and trying to visualize the shot first. Sometimes the first couple of times you visit a place is more of a scouting exercise either because you weren't prepared or the light wasn't interesting. And of course sometimes you have to be really patient like landscape photographers were once forced to be because they were shooting on film and had to wait for the right moment.
One of my favorite photos took an hour even though I shot maybe 10 frames. I knew it would only work when it was overcast but the sun kept showing up and there were people walking around. I already knew what exposure I was going to use and chose a 3 stop filter. I'd already visualized the composition, everything was set up โ I just had to wait for the light to do its thing. I could have easily shot 100 photos that were garbage and moved on to the next location but I knew I probably wouldn't be returning for a few years so I committed to the shot and it paid off.
Sometimes you have to learn how to work quickly. Another one of my favorite photos of a historic site could only be taken at night as part of a tour. There were about 20 people in the group and you weren't allowed to leave the group. The guide started telling a story with everyone off to the side so I had 2 minutes to get the shot. Took a 3 shot pano using my tilt-shift lens to get it all in with no converging verticals. Each frame was a 20 second exposure. As soon as I heard the shutter click on the last frame they all walked through the shot. I still haven't seen anyone take a shot from there that looks like it probably because of that restriction.
Shooting a lot of images might ultimately be the safest way to do it but there are definitely situations where it's a waste of time or you need to work quickly and make it count.
One of my favorite photos took an hour even though I shot maybe 10 frames. I knew it would only work when it was overcast but the sun kept showing up and there were people walking around. I already knew what exposure I was going to use and chose a 3 stop filter. I'd already visualized the composition, everything was set up โ I just had to wait for the light to do its thing. I could have easily shot 100 photos that were garbage and moved on to the next location but I knew I probably wouldn't be returning for a few years so I committed to the shot and it paid off.
Sometimes you have to learn how to work quickly. Another one of my favorite photos of a historic site could only be taken at night as part of a tour. There were about 20 people in the group and you weren't allowed to leave the group. The guide started telling a story with everyone off to the side so I had 2 minutes to get the shot. Took a 3 shot pano using my tilt-shift lens to get it all in with no converging verticals. Each frame was a 20 second exposure. As soon as I heard the shutter click on the last frame they all walked through the shot. I still haven't seen anyone take a shot from there that looks like it probably because of that restriction.
Shooting a lot of images might ultimately be the safest way to do it but there are definitely situations where it's a waste of time or you need to work quickly and make it count.
Planning is the key to alot of good shots, sometimes you can plan it, other times you have to do your best.
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05-29-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted By dixie_normus⏩
You've got all the gear. Experiment with long exposures and light painting. Get creative with gels and give it that seedy look without going over the top. And stay safe.
OK brahs:
I have the opportunity to shoot at an abandoned building. I am bringing my Sony A6000, tripod, speedlite, and a flash light.
Do you guys have any tips to get the best out of this experience? I have a 12mm, 18-200mm, 50mm, and the kit 18-50.
Thanks in advanced.
I have the opportunity to shoot at an abandoned building. I am bringing my Sony A6000, tripod, speedlite, and a flash light.
Do you guys have any tips to get the best out of this experience? I have a 12mm, 18-200mm, 50mm, and the kit 18-50.
Thanks in advanced.
05-29-2018, 09:40 AM
#2473
Originally Posted By dixie_normus⏩
Pocket sand.
OK brahs:
I have the opportunity to shoot at an abandoned building. I am bringing my Sony A6000, tripod, speedlite, and a flash light.
Do you guys have any tips to get the best out of this experience? I have a 12mm, 18-200mm, 50mm, and the kit 18-50.
Thanks in advanced.
I have the opportunity to shoot at an abandoned building. I am bringing my Sony A6000, tripod, speedlite, and a flash light.
Do you guys have any tips to get the best out of this experience? I have a 12mm, 18-200mm, 50mm, and the kit 18-50.
Thanks in advanced.
For when light rays are coming in through the window. Same thing they do at Antelope Canyon, toss dust in the air and let you snap shots of it.
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05-29-2018, 09:42 AM
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After talking to Dom and him getting my head straight, I think i'll be selling off one of my d750 and picking up another D850 in it's stead. :|
I'm in love..
Although, I do suspect that at least some 850s are affected by the similar shutter issue as 750 was. i'm periodically seeing a dark band in the top of shots when shooting straight into the light.
I'm in love..
Although, I do suspect that at least some 850s are affected by the similar shutter issue as 750 was. i'm periodically seeing a dark band in the top of shots when shooting straight into the light.
05-29-2018, 09:53 AM
#2475
Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
as an alternative, you can use the atmosphere in a can.
Pocket sand.
For when light rays are coming in through the window. Same thing they do at Antelope Canyon, toss dust in the air and let you snap shots of it.
For when light rays are coming in through the window. Same thing they do at Antelope Canyon, toss dust in the air and let you snap shots of it.
05-29-2018, 10:21 AM
#2476
Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
Awesome thanks. I don't know anything about gels so I will hold off on using them and read about it and I'm not even sure I can get them in time, it's saturday. My biggest challenge is going to be getting composition correct.
You've got all the gear. Experiment with long exposures and light painting. Get creative with gels and give it that seedy look without going over the top. And stay safe.
Originally Posted By PMBlueSasquatch⏩
I will keep that in mind, that's a great idea! thanks
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05-29-2018, 10:24 AM
#2477
Originally Posted By somfking⏩
Look at Affinity Photo. It is an amazing photoshop clone that does just about everything the real thing does, it's that good.
are there any solid free photo editing programs out there? i don't need anything crazy, just the basics for manipulating the colors and chit a little bit
Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
Truth bomb here. Not just beginners either FML.
One problem I think alot of people deal with starting out, and something I still deal with, is convincing yourself a picture is good, so that you didn't come away from a trip or a day of shooting with nothing to show for it. Sometimes the cream of the crop can still be terrible, just because it's the best turd doesn't mean it's still not a turd.
Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
This. A little talked about technique much like using a plant sprayer on flowers/insects.
Pocket sand.
For when light rays are coming in through the window. Same thing they do at Antelope Canyon, toss dust in the air and let you snap shots of it.
For when light rays are coming in through the window. Same thing they do at Antelope Canyon, toss dust in the air and let you snap shots of it.
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05-29-2018, 10:43 AM
#2478
can't edit my post..
https://www.atmosphereaerosol.com/collections/usa this is what I was talking about
https://www.atmosphereaerosol.com/collections/usa this is what I was talking about
05-29-2018, 10:45 AM
#2479
Made an account on 500px and it said one of my photos is upcoming and it just said it's popular. This is the pic in question. Not even remotely good imo
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05-29-2018, 11:11 AM
#2480
Originally Posted By Foques⏩
Hopefully if that's the case then it's an easy fix like the D750 with a brand new shutter at no cost and camera back in a week.
Although, I do suspect that at least some 850s are affected by the similar shutter issue as 750 was. i'm periodically seeing a dark band in the top of shots when shooting straight into the light.
I'm pretty sure my D800E is affected by the left sided focus issue but I never bothered sending it in. It was one of those things that would have bothered me if I went looking for it but never noticed any issues in the real world using it and it's still going after 6 years. Never thought I'd get attached to a camera body but I still love that thing. Hoping to pick up a D850 soon. Have a trip lined up in a couple of months that it would be perfect for.
Originally Posted By dixie_normus⏩
When you said abandoned I immediately thought of urban exploration at night.
Awesome thanks. I don't know anything about gels so I will hold off on using them and read about it and I'm not even sure I can get them in time, it's saturday. My biggest challenge is going to be getting composition correct.
If you'll have some sunlight streaming in through windows then you can always bracket and blend exposures later and not even bother with lighting. Flash will typically look like garbage unless you're bouncing or diffusing the light with a modifier. Plus if there will be people walking around long exposures are a great way to make them disappear. This is where an ND filter comes in handy.
As far as exposure goes you can always spot meter for the brightest part of the frame. This will expose the highlights as middle grey which will look underexposed so open up 1-1.5 stops either manually or with exposure compensation (e.g. +1EV). Bracket for shadow detail.
05-29-2018, 11:27 AM
#2481
Originally Posted By SpicyCurrie⏩
Why did you upload it, if it isn't remotely good?
Made an account on 500px and it said one of my photos is upcoming and it just said it's popular. This is the pic in question. Not even remotely good imo
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Link?
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05-29-2018, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
I just tossed you a follow brah
Why did you upload it, if it isn't remotely good?
Link?
www.500px.com/chadberens
I need to re-publish mine with actual signature rather than the crappy copywright logo on some of my earlier stuff, didn't want to put up pictures without a watermark but the generic lightroom one is pretty terrible.
Link?
www.500px.com/chadberens
I need to re-publish mine with actual signature rather than the crappy copywright logo on some of my earlier stuff, didn't want to put up pictures without a watermark but the generic lightroom one is pretty terrible.
And I uploaded everything from my Dropbox account. Imo I havenโt taken any good photos yet, but thereโs no sense in never sharing even the bad ones, how else would I get criticism and learn from my mistakes?
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05-29-2018, 12:06 PM
#2483
Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
Awesome thanks, i appreciate the help. I might just leave the flash at home and rely on the light inside the building/use my flashlight to paint. I love to bracket my shots so I dont know why I didn't even think about it (probably because I only shoot landscapes and never did this type of photography). I will post some of my results come Sunday if I get time after the shoot.
Hopefully if that's the case then it's an easy fix like the D750 with a brand new shutter at no cost and camera back in a week.
I'm pretty sure my D800E is affected by the left sided focus issue but I never bothered sending it in. It was one of those things that would have bothered me if I went looking for it but never noticed any issues in the real world using it and it's still going after 6 years. Never thought I'd get attached to a camera body but I still love that thing. Hoping to pick up a D850 soon. Have a trip lined up in a couple of months that it would be perfect for.
When you said abandoned I immediately thought of urban exploration at night.
If you'll have some sunlight streaming in through windows then you can always bracket and blend exposures later and not even bother with lighting. Flash will typically look like garbage unless you're bouncing or diffusing the light with a modifier. Plus if there will be people walking around long exposures are a great way to make them disappear. This is where an ND filter comes in handy.
As far as exposure goes you can always spot meter for the brightest part of the frame. This will expose the highlights as middle grey which will look underexposed so open up 1-1.5 stops either manually or with exposure compensation (e.g. +1EV). Bracket for shadow detail .
I'm pretty sure my D800E is affected by the left sided focus issue but I never bothered sending it in. It was one of those things that would have bothered me if I went looking for it but never noticed any issues in the real world using it and it's still going after 6 years. Never thought I'd get attached to a camera body but I still love that thing. Hoping to pick up a D850 soon. Have a trip lined up in a couple of months that it would be perfect for.
When you said abandoned I immediately thought of urban exploration at night.
If you'll have some sunlight streaming in through windows then you can always bracket and blend exposures later and not even bother with lighting. Flash will typically look like garbage unless you're bouncing or diffusing the light with a modifier. Plus if there will be people walking around long exposures are a great way to make them disappear. This is where an ND filter comes in handy.
As far as exposure goes you can always spot meter for the brightest part of the frame. This will expose the highlights as middle grey which will look underexposed so open up 1-1.5 stops either manually or with exposure compensation (e.g. +1EV). Bracket for shadow detail .
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05-29-2018, 12:12 PM
#2484
Originally Posted By dixie_normus⏩
Whatever you do don't use HDR, it's got so bad HDR shots are actually banned on many urbex forums.
Awesome thanks, i appreciate the help. I might just leave the flash at home and rely on the light inside the building/use my flashlight to paint. I love to bracket my shots so I dont know why I didn't even think about it (probably because I only shoot landscapes and never did this type of photography). I will post some of my results come Sunday if I get time after the shoot.
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05-29-2018, 12:21 PM
#2485
Originally Posted By SpicyCurrie⏩
If you are wanting critiques I would go after groups that do that, forums that do that, and I've seen services where you pay and "professionals" view your work - limited to something like 20 pictures, where they give you advice.
I just tossed you a follow brah
And I uploaded everything from my Dropbox account. Imo I havenโt taken any good photos yet, but thereโs no sense in never sharing even the bad ones, how else would I get criticism and learn from my mistakes?
And I uploaded everything from my Dropbox account. Imo I havenโt taken any good photos yet, but thereโs no sense in never sharing even the bad ones, how else would I get criticism and learn from my mistakes?
500px doesn't seem to be much of a community in my experience, so I don't know how much criticism you will get.
I'm planning on re-doing my account before to long, I posted some pictures that aren't great, because I wanted to have something to show for my efforts on a trip or event, but thats the wrong mindset. I'm looking to use my account more for more like a portfolio, even though I never get paid or do work for anyone, just a nice web-based format to show off my work. Listing poor photographs won't work towards that goal. I have ******** for my 100% regurgitation of trip pictures.
Forcing yourself to limit the number of pictures also is a valuable tool, to evaluate what makes your picture good, or what you would change. You don't take a picture and never look at it, or pull it off the camera. Take another step and evaluate the photograph, learn from it.
You have multiple photographs of the same subject, at different angles. I struggle with picking 1 of the grouping as well, but there is always a 1st place and last place. If it's a tie, upload them separately, when they are next to one another, they both suffer because of it. A picture of a majestic mountain can be very awe inspiring. 20 pictures of the same mountain, and the mountain becomes less awe inspiring.
Your pictures have a nice look to them, I like the clarity, color, etc. Maybe read up on some composition tips/ideas. I picked up a handful from a couple articles today, to utilize this next week.
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05-29-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
I paid for one of these in the early days when it was launched and the price was low because no one in the fashion industry had looked at my fashion portfolio yet. I did find it helpful but not really worth the money, you also have to keep in mind they are a business in getting you to come back so they won't be too harsh.
If you are wanting critiques I would go after groups that do that, forums that do that, and I've seen services where you pay and "professionals" view your work - limited to something like 20 pictures, where they give you advice.
With critique, if you have a good level of competence I'd always seek out non-photographers first. Photographers will usually just tell you how they would have shot it and not the feeling they get from the picture. 90% of internet forums are horrendous for this once you have a level of technical competence.
Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
500px (now) is just people commenting 'ooh' and 'aah' hoping the person will do the same to their work in reciprocation. Photographers are overwhelmingly an insecure narcissistic bunch and so many take pictures to chase ratings and get validation. All that matters in the end is that you like your work (or your clients do if you are shooting for them).
500px doesn't seem to be much of a community in my experience, so I don't know how much criticism you will get.
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05-29-2018, 02:22 PM
#2487
Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
Jelly, would love to go one day. What lenses did you take?
It was awesome, bucket list thing. I took my 16-35/2.8, 85/1.8, 70-200/4 and my 400/5.6.
Jelly, would love to go one day. What lenses did you take?
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05-29-2018, 04:24 PM
#2488
Originally Posted By zknarc⏩
As you know exposure blending can be done in a subtle way that looks natural. I agree really obvious HDR is hard on the eyeballs and besides shadows create mood so an image that's too flat is probably going to be boring anyway.
Whatever you do don't use HDR, it's got so bad HDR shots are actually banned on many urbex forums.
Sensors and software have come a long way so I find these days I can often get what I need from the one exposure from the shadow and highlight sliders along with local adjustment masks in Capture One but I'll still bracket just to be safe.
05-29-2018, 09:55 PM
#2489
Upgraded to a A6500 from a NEX 5R. Very excited about the new camera and plan to take more photos and work on my skills. Still learning the functions of the camera. Huge upgrade over the 5R. Build and materials are a huge improvement, as well as, the capability. Video is fantastic too.
One question anout Lightroom/PP of RAWs. My version is older and doesn't recognize the A6500 files. Lightroom is only subscription based now?! Any other good programs to use for PP?
One question anout Lightroom/PP of RAWs. My version is older and doesn't recognize the A6500 files. Lightroom is only subscription based now?! Any other good programs to use for PP?
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05-29-2018, 10:53 PM
#2490
Originally Posted By BroncManiac⏩
Capture One Sony 11
One question anout Lightroom/PP of RAWs. My version is older and doesn't recognize the A6500 files. Lightroom is only subscription based now?! Any other good programs to use for PP?
Express version is free. No local adjustments, sessions, advanced tools for keystoning and color, no tethering but then they're not giving away their $400 flagship software. There's still more than enough there to process your Sony RAW files. Upgrading to the pro version for Sony is $79.
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