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02-07-2023, 09:13 AM
#2581
Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
i like MP5s, but id prefer to have the 16" rifle variant that i own than a braced pistol
I already have several rifles:


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02-07-2023, 10:32 AM
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I already have several rifles:


He’s being a bish, he’s posted his braced (and never fired) mp5 plenty of times
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02-08-2023, 01:56 AM
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Good scope mount? I'd rather have fixed for securing my scope, and I'd like to be mindful of the weight I'm putting on my ham planet AR I built lol.
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02-08-2023, 02:05 AM
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He’s being a bish, he’s posted his braced (and never fired) mp5 plenty of times
His round count is actually really high if you multiply it by the speed of light…
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02-08-2023, 06:23 AM
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His round count is actually really high if you multiply it by the speed of light…


Start the day with this, lol. Good times.




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02-08-2023, 06:37 AM
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Start the day with this, lol. Good times.
Can someone aware me on why the MFC bags on 4ea? From my perspective, the dude is a 2A advocate, and owns multiple firearms. What have I missed?
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02-08-2023, 02:08 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/Aero-Precisio.../dp/B00IB1V65I


Good scope mount? I'd rather have fixed for securing my scope, and I'd like to be mindful of the weight I'm putting on my ham planet AR I built lol.
Unity Tactical’s LPVO mount is great.
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Can’t go wrong with any of those.

I’m sure Aero is fine too, just doesn’t look like something I’d put on any sort of heavy use rifle.
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02-08-2023, 06:40 PM
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The Strike Eagle LPVO's are dogchit. Have shot several and the glass clarity is AIDS. The only thing that's good (actually REALLY good) from the Strike Eagle line is the Gen 2 5-25.

Do yourself a favor and save a little more for a Gen 2 Viper 1-6. Glass clarity is 90% of what the Razor's is. Reticle is great, dot is actually bright enough to use during the day, made WAY more heavy duty, etc. It's well worth the extra money over a Strike Eagle LPVO.
Pretty much this, poorcells who don't know any better or are trying super hard to convince themselves talk up the eagle 1-x LPVO but I wouldn't buy one even if that's all the LPVO you could afford, don't get one or wait until you can get the Viper PST

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His round count is actually really high if you multiply it by the speed of light…
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Start the day with this, lol. Good times.




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Can someone aware me on why the MFC bags on 4ea? From my perspective, the dude is a 2A advocate, and owns multiple firearms. What have I missed?
It just goes way back.

Partly he's a little reactive to it which makes it fun. Okay, that's pretty much it lol

The speed of light is coming up on almost a decade long running joke now, we got into a bit of an argument about the relative power of different cartridges and the formula he was using literally multiplied something but the speed of light to determine the energy/power of the round, which was a mistake, one he hasn't lived down
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02-08-2023, 06:44 PM
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i like MP5s, but id prefer to have the 16" rifle variant that i own than a braced pistol
What? 16" 9mm is herpes.
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02-08-2023, 06:54 PM
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02-08-2023, 06:55 PM
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No Farley, power is a 4 vector, to calculate it you need to construct a right triangle, one leg is kinetic energy, the other is momentum multiplied by the speed of light. Total destructive capability, aka “power” is the length of the hypotenuse of the triangle.

The main thing to take away from all of this is that the momentum contribution is multiplied by the speed of light. It is the real money maker so to speak when discussing destructive capability of relatively massive objects moving at speeds not close to the speed of light.

True that .44 mag has more momentum, but its not a huge difference.
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02-08-2023, 06:56 PM
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did someone mention momentum?

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did someone mention momentum?

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02-08-2023, 07:18 PM
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What? 16" 9mm is herpes.
tbh 5.16" 9mm on an sbr sized gun is also herpes. Such a weak round is really only tolerable in concealed carry size.
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02-08-2023, 07:27 PM
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tbh 5.16" 9mm on an sbr sized gun is also herpes. Such a weak round is really only tolerable in concealed carry size.
Also true

An old MFC favorite is…what's the practical application of a pistol caliber carbine?

The answer: It's fun and I like shooting it.

Cool.

But that seems to be about it

Or shooting at a stupid range that doesn't allow rifle rounds so you spend money on an AR platform 9mm so you can shoot that 'platform' while being cooler than if you were shooting a 15-22 'cause those are too common
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tbh 5.16" 9mm on an sbr sized gun is also herpes. Such a weak round is really only tolerable in concealed carry size.
This take is AIDS.

5" bbl ensures that you can keep 147mm rounds subsonic for use with a can. I can make consistent hits with my 9mm AR15 at 200 yds, and my 16" barrel gives me maybe 100 FPS extra over a 5" bbl. Are you able to hit 200 yds consistently with a handgun?

9MM PCCs are amazeballs and everyone should have one for fun.
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02-08-2023, 07:40 PM
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This take is AIDS.

5" bbl ensures that you can keep 147mm rounds subsonic for use with a can. I can make consistent hits with my 9mm AR15 at 200 yds, and my 16" barrel gives me maybe 100 FPS extra over a 5" bbl. Are you able to hit 200 yds consistently with a handgun?

9MM PCCs are amazeballs and everyone should have one for fun.
200 yards? Seems like a great range for a 5.56 SBR. Handgun what?
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200 yards? Seems like a great range for a 5.56 SBR. Handgun what?
It's purely the giggle factor on a 9mm PCC vs a 9mm handgun. A 9mm handgun is a lot more useful but a 9mm PCC is a lot more enjoyable to shoot.

I don't shoot my 9mm PCC as much as I used to now that I can't go to the indoor range at 2 AM to fire it anymore but I still take it out.
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tbh 5.16" 9mm on an sbr sized gun is also herpes. Such a weak round is really only tolerable in concealed carry size.
Unsuppressed I'd agree. 9mm does suppress a lot better than centerfire rifle though if you're trying to be quiet.
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Anyone have anything good/bad to say about T-Rex arms? They have a Aimpoint to Acog mount I’m considering here soon. It’s just a mount but curious if anyone has done business with the company. The dude is quirky but seems pretty knowledgeable albeit his brand is separate from the company.
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You can tell alot of these ex SOF guys don’t think civilians deserve the same weapons and training they got and will only teach classes to cops aka fauggetes
I personally think cops being taught SOF tactics is the last thing they need.
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tbh 5.16" 9mm on an sbr sized gun is also herpes. Such a weak round is really only tolerable in concealed carry size.
Yup. Range toy.

Only makes sense to go 5.56 for an SBR (which is waaay better than a 7.62x39 SBR).
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I like Lucas and T-Rex. Strong supporter of civilian second amendment rights. Only have haters cause Lucas is a good shooter and isn’t military/police so ex mil guys who can’t shoot nearly as good are jealous.

You can tell alot of these ex SOF guys don’t think civilians deserve the same weapons and training they got and will only teach classes to cops aka fauggetes


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Lucas is a great supporter of 2A and TRex does really good videos on gun-adjacent stuff like comms and night vision.

On the other hand, I would never take a class from Lucas. I have no problem taking a class from a civilian, recognizing that you're there to learn marksmanship and not tactics or anything like that. However Lucas' skill as a shooter is vapor wear. If he was truly a good shooter, he'd be competing and placing high in comps consistently. From what I've heard, he's only competed once or a handful of times, and did not do well. That, to me, says that he's only skilled when the cameras are rolling.
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Don’t get me wrong Lucas has done some goofy chit, no one is perfect.

Apparently he had some .mil guys shoot at his range and made a dubious claim about “training” them. Ok kinda lame, whatever. Don’t think they offer any kind of formal training anymore.

Also disagree with not a good shooter because he doesn’t compete. Is he a grand master IDPA whatever da fook? No. But he can shoot. I know my local IDPA is a bunch of Fudds and not interested in joining them to shoot cardboard for 8 hours on a Saturday personally.

But yea he’s not Jerry Miculek or Steoger or whoever the fuk either of course and agree wouldn’t pay for him to teach me to shoot.
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This take is AIDS.

5" bbl ensures that you can keep 147mm rounds subsonic for use with a can. I can make consistent hits with my 9mm AR15 at 200 yds, and my 16" barrel gives me maybe 100 FPS extra over a 5" bbl. Are you able to hit 200 yds consistently with a handgun?

9MM PCCs are amazeballs and everyone should have one for fun.
I have no doubt PCC’s are fun. I just can’t see a single scenario that I’d use one over 5.56 for any defense/duty use.

If it’s just a range toy, great.

I actually really wanted to SBR a PSA JAKL in 9mm once they’re released. Then I learned they’re direct blowback so I’ll pass.
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If he was truly a good shooter, he'd be competing and placing high in comps consistently. From what I've heard, he's only competed once or a handful of times, and did not do well. That, to me, says that he's only skilled when the cameras are rolling.
Lmao you can’t be serious. There’s tons and tons of one takes to be found on his YouTube that show there’s no “movie magic”. The dude is legitimately a VERY good shooter. Probably better than 95% of people easily.
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This take is AIDS.

5" bbl ensures that you can keep 147mm rounds subsonic for use with a can. I can make consistent hits with my 9mm AR15 at 200 yds, and my 16" barrel gives me maybe 100 FPS extra over a 5" bbl. Are you able to hit 200 yds consistently with a handgun?

9MM PCCs are amazeballs and everyone should have one for fun.
I'm stuck on this. I can't remember if I've posted this before, but I own a brand new, never fired IMI Model A Uzi still in the original box and everything. It's worth about $3k from what I've seen. I don't know if I should SBR/suppress it and run it as a fun range toy, sell it, or leave it in the box and not think about it.

The $3k I'd get for it wouldn't necessarily fund anything and I don't need the money. I don't think PCCs have ANY practical purpose so what's the point training with it? If I do keep it to shoot, I'd sink well over $1k in **** I would get for it (new barrel, can, stamps, optic) and I don't really feel like doing that. Not really sure what to do with it.

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Don’t get me wrong Lucas has done some goofy chit, no one is perfect.

Apparently he had some .mil guys shoot at his range and made a dubious claim about “training” them. Ok kinda lame, whatever. Don’t think they offer any kind of formal training anymore.

Also disagree with not a good shooter because he doesn’t compete. Is he a grand master IDPA whatever da fook? No. But he can shoot. I know my local IDPA is a bunch of Fudds and not interested in joining them to shoot cardboard for 8 hours on a Saturday personally.

But yea he’s not Jerry Miculek or Steoger or whoever the fuk either of course and agree wouldn’t pay for him to teach me to shoot.
"Dubious claim" is too nice of a way to say he deliberately and intentionally lied to gain clout to sell more bull**** tactical classes to idiots who drool over well edited videos. That alone makes him a ***got and shows his true character. Not much more is needed beyond that.

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Lmao you can’t be serious. There’s tons and tons of one takes to be found on his YouTube that show there’s no “movie magic”. The dude is legitimately a VERY good shooter. Probably better than 95% of people easily.
Not everyone enjoys competing. And not everyone who is a great shooter is a great competitor.
How do you know any of those videos are one takes lmao. Is the video 24 hours long and follows him from wake up to the range? Too much of what he does is rehearsed/edited.
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How do you know any of those videos are one takes lmao. Is the video 24 hours long and follows him from wake up to the range? Too much of what he does is rehearsed/edited.
Do you know what a one take is? As in one, uninterrupted clip.

Damn, lots of y’all seem jelly as fk of the dude lmao.

Edit: The best part is there’s no amount of takes that would have you shooting on his level anyway. That’s what makes it hilarious that some of you are so upset about “mUh EdItED vIdeOs”.
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