Come on mang the Norwood Reaper went in dry on Scalpriani. Not much he could do there.Hey there's a reason why I put that trigger warning up. I know you don't like the man.

"Dedicated to the musician that changed my Life."

Rick destroys Joe in the chops department but who composed the music? All this stuff should serve the song anyway. The song should come first.

Joe's response:

"Great playing Rick! I don't think I've ever heard anyone cover this song of mine. You've elevated it in many ways. I'm honored."

Sure but it's still an art form and not everyone is convincing at it. It's like many people think AC/DC is simple but when they cover it, it never sounds right.

I remember seeing that Musiciswin guy at that "Guitcon" youtuber thing a few years back. They had jam nights where they'd get up and play Hendrix, AC/DC, etc. and he completely chit the bed. Even Tom Quayle's legato runs over Little Wing were way out of place. Phil X held it together. You could see the massive difference between a youtuber/bedroom player and a professional musician.

Jump to 30 minutes in. The money shot is not far away.

Vai is technically and harmonically more complex than Satch, and he had the hits with Lee Roth, and you can't deny his time with Zappa rubbed off on him, Zappa found a prodigy in him.


Joe I remember fondly for his tone and melodic lines. He was the working man's guitar teacher and he taught a few of the greats, Vai himself of course, Alex Skolnick, Hammet (lol). He's probably got the best guitar instrumental album ever released, and chicks actually dig Always With Me, Always With You. Satch would admit his chops were never at Vai's level, but I've heard players with chops beyond both who can't write decent music to save their lives.

Satch tells more of a narrative with his music, Vai for sheer chops and Zappa-esque out of the box stuff and experimentalism.



It's quite the experience to see Vai live. He's just bonkers, it's like a circus and burlesque show along with the music. I saw him in 2004 when I was barely into my teens.


P.S As for Malmsteen, he's the exemplar of what I meant when I called the 80's shred trite and old-hat. Great chops, but I think his basic-bitch sweep arpeggios and harmonic minor scales get old after awhile. Plus, the dude was just a prick. Remember that interview where he just bashed nearly every guitarist he was listening to, without knowing their names prior?

Did you hear the Music is Win solo right after Quayle? That was rough.That's what it comes down to for me. The music. Either you like it or you don't. Satriani has a respectable body of work, especially in that 80s/early 90s period I mentioned earlier.

He's raked in millions off guitar lessons but completely sh*t the bed live playing some blues.

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I found it.

I was being facetious because you specified legato is off limits, lol.





This is the backing track I used. I think he lifted it because of missing and wrong chords listed, but cool jam.

The BALLS comments are all directed at me but I'm happy to let my nuts hang in this thread.

Couple of reasons why I haven't bothered. While I can appreciate it I don't do the rapid fire picking/shred thing. What's important to me listening to other guitarists and my own playing, the stuff I spoke about with Satriani, bending, vibrato, etc. doesn't gain much traction here. I don't really want to share any original stuff until I commit to a finished product so that leaves playing someone else's music. I'm down for that.

Will do. That reminds me, I've only recently started playing songs again instead of my own stuff or just improvising over changes. As in learning parts properly and playing them usually with my own take on the solo but otherwise sticking to what's recorded. Requires discipline and rapidly elevates your playing. The loop pedal has been getting a decent workout lately.

As I mentioned a few posts back I want to get one of those Zoom or Tascam multitracks so I can work on guitar parts away from the computer and then dump it all into the DAW to add other instruments then mix it. I spoke about this years ago but one of the best things you can do is split/DI the dry signal to a separate track so you can reamp later. That way once you've got the performance in the can you can nerd out on dialing in the perfect tone (for the mix) later.

They still exist. They also sell gear designed for live mixing but with recording functionality built in and some of them can control your DAW with start, stop, rec, etc.

What the bigger ones look like:

Howdy Dom....

Agreed, I've never had the desire to play any'rapid fire picking/shred thing'.
We all have our own propensities.
I prefer just being a good rhythm player/song writer.
That, of course, would be determined by any generous listeners to any of our originals.

Cool....look forward to hearing a finished original.
It takes some perseverance and discipline to flesh out a good song or composition.
Then, we may hope that ourpeerswith find it has some creative or musical merit.

A good weekend to everyone.

Carry on.

You could make the argument musicians were more resourceful and creative working within the limitations of those things vs. unlimited tracks with digital. Not to mention having a certain amount of studio time booked vs. recording at home with the luxury of months to finish a project.

Back in Black was written and recorded in 7 weeks.

do any of y'all play much acoustic stuff? Since I bought that new taylor back in July, it's all I've been playing. I've only plugged in a few of my Pauls a handful of times.

Mostly do strumming and some flat picked lines & solos, but I'm trying to work on upping my finger picking game a bit.




also, I saw this the other day and lol'd

It's not digital that did that it's the Internet. And here we're are

^^^There’s some hella good runs in there! Improv is tough and it seems every time I’m sounding good, I’m not recording. Hit the record button and it Goes to chit


Just got my 79 Paul custom back from the resto guy. The neck twisted following the flood. Well it’s straight as fuk now and has a refret. It plays so damn good now