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02-09-2023, 03:17 PM
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Lmao you can’t be serious. There’s tons and tons of one takes to be found on his YouTube that show there’s no “movie magic”. The dude is legitimately a VERY good shooter. Probably better than 95% of people easily.
Not everyone enjoys competing. And not everyone who is a great shooter is a great competitor.
That's a retarded take. People who are gOoD at something usually have a demonstrated record of skill and experience. He's never been in a fight, and he doesn't shoot comps. He's a ****ing actor.


Like I said before, T Rex Arms does a lot of good for the community. I don't have any personal issue with Botkin…I don't care what he does. Hopefully he sells a lot of gear. I'm also not watching his videos for training advice of all things. Nobody here really bad mouthed Lucas. The topic came up and we offered opinions. Your obsession with him is unhealthy…he's been pretty public about his thoughts on homosexuality, I don't think you have a chance man.
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02-09-2023, 03:36 PM
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Yup. Range toy.

Only makes sense to go 5.56 for an SBR (which is waaay better than a 7.62x39 SBR).

From 10.5" and smaller, the x39 is the winner with 1066ft/lbs compared to 861ft/lbs from an m855 round





7.62x39 isn't an inaccurate round, but the most popular platform for it(AK) is a lot less accurate than an AR. Top-tier shorty SBR would be an Ace Gen II in x39
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02-09-2023, 04:59 PM
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That's a retarded take. People who are gOoD at something usually have a demonstrated record of skill and experience. He's never been in a fight, and he doesn't shoot comps. He's a ****ing actor.


Like I said before, T Rex Arms does a lot of good for the community. I don't have any personal issue with Botkin…I don't care what he does. Hopefully he sells a lot of gear. I'm also not watching his videos for training advice of all things. Nobody here really bad mouthed Lucas. The topic came up and we offered opinions. Your obsession with him is unhealthy…he's been pretty public about his thoughts on homosexuality, I don't think you have a chance man.
Lmao I couldn’t care less about him as a person or his company.

That doesn’t change the fact that you’re absolutely fking retarded to say he’s not a very, very good shooter.

Stay mad about it though.

PS: Let me know how many takes and how much editing it takes you to get to his draw-to-first-shot times, splits, etc.
Looking forward to the video.
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02-09-2023, 05:55 PM
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Lucas is a great supporter of 2A and TRex does really good videos on gun-adjacent stuff like comms and night vision.

On the other hand, I would never take a class from Lucas. I have no problem taking a class from a civilian, recognizing that you're there to learn marksmanship and not tactics or anything like that. However Lucas' skill as a shooter is vapor wear. If he was truly a good shooter, he'd be competing and placing high in comps consistently. From what I've heard, he's only competed once or a handful of times, and did not do well. That, to me, says that he's only skilled when the cameras are rolling.
That is the source of the consternation

Once you prompted to watch his content with the "let's run a drill on an empty range until I get an awesome time and show that run" mentality, you stop watching them lol

He does shoot for a living and he is fast
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02-09-2023, 06:24 PM
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Once you prompted to watch his content with the "let's run a drill on an empty range until I get an awesome time and show that run" mentality, you stop watching them lol
I'm sure that happens. A lot.

But he also has a **** load of one takes where the camera doesn't stop or cut at all from the time the timer goes off until the drill is done and he shows target hits and the shot timer showing some absolutely insane first shot times and splits with A zone hits.

IDGAF if anyone loves or hates him. Feelings aside and just judging him as a shooter - he's a damn good shooter.
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02-09-2023, 06:42 PM
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I'm sure that happens. A lot.

But he also has a **** load of one takes where the camera doesn't stop or cut at all from the time the timer goes off until the drill is done and he shows target hits and the shot timer showing some absolutely insane first shot times and splits with A zone hits.

IDGAF if anyone loves or hates him. Feelings aside and just judging him as a shooter - he's a damn good shooter.
You aren't understanding what we and I are posting RE: running the drill on an empty range until it's the result he wants and then taking that oNe ShOt to make the final production
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02-09-2023, 07:06 PM
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You aren't understanding what we and I are posting RE: running the drill on an empty range until it's the result he wants and then taking that oNe ShOt to make the final production
And you aren’t understanding what I’m saying.

How many takes does it take you or anyone ITT until you can post dozens and dozens of videos with his insane first shot times, splits, and accuracy with said insane times?

You can’t. Just like no one else talking **** about him in this thread can. Lol
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02-09-2023, 07:12 PM
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And you aren’t understanding what I’m saying.

How many takes does it take you or anyone ITT until you can post dozens and dozens of videos with his insane first shot times, splits, and accuracy with said insane times?

You can’t. Just like no one else talking **** about him in this thread can. Lol
I missed where anybody in this thread say they were faster than him?
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02-09-2023, 07:15 PM
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I missed where anybody in this thread say they were faster than him?
Oh, ok.

So as gathered from multiple posts itt, he’s:
- not a good shooter because muh multiple takes and who was shooting competitions
- but also better than anyone itt

Glad that’s clear.
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02-09-2023, 07:29 PM
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I missed where anybody in this thread say they were faster than him?
Bearing also in mind that it's a demonstration of skill within an extremely narrow band. If you repetitively rehearse one drill over and over and over and over again for that shot for the gram, of course you'll get fast. If you want to cultivate actual useful skill (i.e., to fight, or to win comps) you have to be able to function across a wider band of situations.

You don't need to like competing to shoot competitively, either in competitions against other people, or designated courses of fire to compete against a standard (e.g. quals). You need do it because it's a way to measure aptitude outside of your comfort zone, to test your skills in general unrehearsed situations.

Total number of comps where Botkin has placed in the top 3 = 0 as far as I know. You might as well take a class from Tom Cruise since, in one highly-rehearsed scene, he was extremely fast.

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02-09-2023, 07:32 PM
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Bearing also in mind that it's a demonstration of skill within an extremely narrow band. If you repetitively rehearse one drill over and over and over and over again for that shot for the gram, of course you'll get fast. If you want to cultivate actual useful skill (i.e., to fight, or to win comps) you have to be able to function across a wider band of situations.

You don't need to like competing to shoot competitively, either in competitions against other people, or designated courses of fire to compete against a standard (e.g. quals). You need do it because it's a way to measure aptitude outside of your comfort zone, to test your skills in general unrehearsed situations.

Total number of comps where Botkin has placed in the top 3 = 0 as far as I know. You might as well take a class from Tom Cruise since, in one highly-rehearsed scene, he was extremely fast.

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Lmao. You’re trying so hard.
Yes. Comparing Lucas Botkin to Tom Cruise is definitely the exact same thing.
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02-09-2023, 07:37 PM
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Lmao. You’re trying so hard.
Yes. Comparing Lucas Botkin to Tom Cruise is definitely the exact same thing.
They're both actors . The fact that you can't tell the difference says it all.
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02-09-2023, 07:48 PM
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He’s no different than any other guntuber trying to make entertaining vids. Hate legit comes off as jealously imo
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02-09-2023, 07:59 PM
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They're both actors . The fact that you can't tell the difference says it all.
Mhm.
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02-09-2023, 09:16 PM
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Lol Christ almighty…didn’t know asking about a optic mount the company makes would cause such a **** slinging contest about the dude. Then again consider the source (MFC).
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02-09-2023, 09:28 PM
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….Tom Cruise since, in one highly-rehearsed scene, he was extremely fast.

As quick as it was….Jerry Maguire should have been toast by the second guy who literally fumbles his chit 2 times almost a third before getting 2 to the chest/1 to the head. Dats Hollywood
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02-09-2023, 11:01 PM
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Do you know what a one take is? As in one, uninterrupted clip.

Damn, lots of y’all seem jelly as fk of the dude lmao.

Edit: The best part is there’s no amount of takes that would have you shooting on his level anyway. That’s what makes it hilarious that some of you are so upset about “mUh EdItED vIdeOs”.
Why are you dick riding this dude lmao.

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That's a retarded take. People who are gOoD at something usually have a demonstrated record of skill and experience. He's never been in a fight, and he doesn't shoot comps. He's a ****ing actor.


Like I said before, T Rex Arms does a lot of good for the community. I don't have any personal issue with Botkin…I don't care what he does. Hopefully he sells a lot of gear. I'm also not watching his videos for training advice of all things. Nobody here really bad mouthed Lucas. The topic came up and we offered opinions. Your obsession with him is unhealthy…he's been pretty public about his thoughts on homosexuality, I don't think you have a chance man.
This. It’s weird that people are so obsessed with him that any questioning is immediately met with severe hostility and accusations of those people must be awful shooters lol. The cult following is just weird.

I wouldn’t have much opinion for him either way if he didn’t lie or try to teach tactics when he knows absolutely nothing about them.
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02-09-2023, 11:37 PM
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Loved that speed of light ****
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drum, it holds fifty, uh
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02-10-2023, 04:09 AM
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Why are you dick riding this dude lmao.
Why are you such a jealous hater?
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02-10-2023, 04:16 AM
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Found Lucas
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02-10-2023, 04:31 AM
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Funny thing is the dudes with the biggest clout real world operators are putting out the most clown schit. Looking at you GBRS and M Glover

Lucas doesn’t shill Sig garbage so I automatically put him over those Clowns
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02-10-2023, 04:38 AM
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Why are you such a jealous hater?
Because you seem to legit think it's jealousy when someone like hoe or ninja says what they say?

You got it backwards
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02-10-2023, 04:46 AM
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Lucas is Jordan of flat range LARP. Haters salty af cuz Muh military

Salt and jelly is all I’m reading

If you can’t even admit the kid can shoot a little that is straight up haterade with a side of jelly toast lol

God forbid he adds a little production value to YouTube videos, such a faker! I did 5 tours on a boat in the pacific doing paper work, trust me bro
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Lol Christ almighty…didn’t know asking about an optic mount the company makes would cause such a **** slinging contest about the dude. Then again consider the source (MFC).
It’s the MFC.

If you don’t like my brand, or my caliber, then LMFAO at you. I will now proceed to sling shyt through redundant posts until you give up.

Nothing new to see here.
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02-10-2023, 06:05 AM
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Does BCM pin their low pro gas blocks or are they set screw?
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02-10-2023, 06:06 AM
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Eotech is goat, fight me!
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Does BCM pin their low pro gas blocks or are they set screw?
Set screw no pinning. I think they may rocksett the gas block screws. Never had a problem with mine or messed with it at all but it’s not pinned.
I assume the barrels are dimpled but never checked
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Does BCM pin their low pro gas blocks or are they set screw?
Set screw. Barrel is dimpled. And they’re ****ing ON THERE.
Just swapped gas block on my 11.5” BHF upper yesterday and it was a 100% nightmare. I don’t know if they rocksett the gas block screws or what, but absolutely no amount of heat would get them to break loose. Ended up setting the entire upper up in one of the mills here at the shop and literally milling the block off.
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It’s the MFC.

If you don’t like my brand, or my caliber, then LMFAO at you. I will now proceed to sling shyt through redundant posts until you give up.

Nothing new to see here.
I know it’s not your style but some Bo MFC style posts would be hilarous.

Ex: guy comes in asking for an AR

You reply : Wilson combat or you’re poor

Others:

Lol at poor***s shooting plastic chit guns. 1911 master race checking in.

If you’re using 9mm you’re gonna die (and poor)

Acog or you’re poor

Do you even glory hole

Lol at ****gs who watch YouTube
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02-10-2023, 06:36 AM
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I have no idea who Lucas is.

Hickock45 is the only YT gun person I know lol
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