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post 1583054411 06-30-2019, 06:02 PM
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Dad fault 100%.

Notice he is trying to get back into her life.

Had he been there from jump street , this would not have happened.

Cyclist have a saying " there are no miracles" That means that no man is just way better than the other men without some "adjusted " means.

Same with this stuff. Its not like this girl just " miraculously" became the queen of spades despite some great upbringing. Just doesnt happen.

By the way, the tour de france stars july 6th.
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post 1583055731 06-30-2019, 06:24 PM
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Any pics of the black pimp? Curious to see if its looks that allow him such control over sloots, or just the sloots rejection of Oregon white soy boys
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Originally Posted By momo5
whipping your kids doesn't make them behave better, it makes them learn how to be machevellian to manipulate and deceive you to avoid pain. You have to learn how to listen and not become a child yourself when your kid acts up. Many times you will see parents throw a tantrum right with the kid when a kid is crying or doing something bad. This is why you need a strong father who can teach his kids right from wrong through philosphy and wise words. Men should not be throwing tanturms and hitting kids with belts to make them stop, this is usually what women do , and bad fathers.

Through parenting you should talk with your kids and present the pro's and cons of there decisions, and explain about how we tend to learn things the hard way through failure and mitsakes, and that some things can be very dangerous, and not something you can recover from. Masculine energy, calm and wise. Most of the miscers in this thread probably had no dad or dad whipped them and they think they are good but here they are incel manipulators lonely on a forum you can see how it works out here right guys?

Looks like they have a bad relationship cause of him supporting trump. Like most trump supporters they are not able to accept that trump is a rude, ignorant even though he makes some good moves and is not a crazy leftist. So when you have someone who does not like trump all you do is support everything he says instead of just supporting the good policies he puts in place.

There is no doubt about it, trump is a rude and ignorant man. But he has put in place some good policies and has some good direction using his business skills and knowledge.
You started off well, but then went half retarded.

In what universe does supporting a 'bad' president condone cutting off ties with your parents? I think the Trump thing is a tiny part of this story. The dad probably did a terrible job of raising her, whatever that means.

If that was my daughter, I'd have cut all ties and would've just hoped that the BBC puts a bullet in her worthless ass when he's done with her.

'Queen of Spades', Jesus Christ, the level of degeneracy. That's enough internet for today.
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post 1583057341 06-30-2019, 06:52 PM
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Lol I honestly dont see whats wrong. Dad was an ******* so she became a sluut. Water is wet. I know girls who have great dad's and they ask me to spit on their face and slap them when we are banging. You cant judge what somebody likes behind closed doors as long as it's consensual and legal.
post 1583059221 06-30-2019, 07:25 PM
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You guys are overthinking the parenting thing.

You listen to people you respect. Respect can be earned in different ways, and people respect different things.

Not sure why Godf is going on about they will listen to you. Kids are kids, they listen, sometimes they dont and they stretch their luck a lot and see what they can get away with, they will tantrum. Theres no silver bullet.

Its like learning anything. you try and try and sometimes it clicks fast, sometimes its slow, and sometimes it never clicks. The most important thing is to keep rolling those dice and trying. Always be there and hopefully they will come around.

That horrendous libtard will come around prolly when shes much older and wiser and experienced and dads on his deathbed or something.
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idk...I don't think beating ur kid is always the answer...as someone who was beaten a lot I can say it isn't great.
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Originally Posted By wincel
idk...I don't think beating ur kid is always the answer...as someone who was beaten a lot I can say it isn't great.
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post 1583062511 06-30-2019, 08:36 PM
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just lmao @ white american women

legit feel sorry for white american brahs, forever being cucked left right and centre
Originally Posted By Devils
type cute mexican girl
cute black girl

and cute white girl into google. Report back
what's supposed to happen? just saw bunch of cute girls?
post 1583064671 06-30-2019, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted By takers123
just lmao @ white american women

legit feel sorry for white american brahs, forever being cucked left right and centre


what's supposed to happen? just saw bunch of cute girls?
I dunno, I got a bunch of picture links and albums for the first two, for the last It was basically porn from the top search down
Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Just because they use it, doesn't mean it's effective for raising children with good character.

The African Diaspora also has a disproportionate rate of violent crime.



Have you considered the possibility that the rod may spoil the child?

""So many parents and child psychologists believe that if spanking is done by loving and helpful parents, it has no harmful effect," Straus said. "This study and only one other study I know of that empirically investigated this belief found that it is not true. Spanking seems to be associated with an increased probability of subsequent child behavior problems regardless of culture and, regardless of whether it done by loving and helpful parents."

"Children need lots guidance and correction, but not by being physically attacked under the euphemism of 'spanking,' " Straus said.

Straus found that positive parenting decreased the probability of subsequent crime but mainly for nonfamily crime. And even though positive parenting was associated with less crime by students, the relation of spanking to crime remained for all nine aspects of crime.

"Most people will find these results hard to understand because parents spank to correct misbehavior and to teach the child to be law-abiding citizens," Straus said."

unh.edu/unhtoday/news/release/2013/11/22/college-students-more-likely-be-lawbreakers-if-spanked-children-new-unh

Link to the paper, that the above summary is from...

researchgate.net/publication/272409466_What_Is_the_Link_Between_Corporal_Punish ment_and_Child_Physical_Abuse

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There appears to be a linear association between the frequency of slapping and spanking during childhood and a lifetime prevalence of anxiety disorder, alcohol abuse or dependence and externalizing problems."


ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10530296/

"By 2000, research on physical punishment had expanded beyond its effect on child aggression. Studies were showing associations between physical punishment and mental health, physical injury, parent–child relationships and family violence in adulthood. One of the first such studies25 linked slapping and spanking in childhood with psychiatric disorders in adulthood in a large Canadian sample, and its findings have since been supported by an ever-growing number of studies. Physical punishment is associated with a range of mental health problems in children, youth and adults, including depression, unhappiness, anxiety, feelings of hopelessness, use of drugs and alcohol, and general psychological maladjustment.26–29 These relationships may be mediated by disruptions in parent–child attachment resulting from pain inflicted by a caregiver,30,31 by increased levels of cortisol32 or by chemical disruption of the brain’s mechanism for regulating stress.33 Researchers are also finding that physical punishment is linked to slower cognitive development and adversely affects academic achievement.34 These findings come from large longitudinal studies that control for a wide range of potential confounders.35 Intriguing results are now emerging from neuroimaging studies, which suggest that physical punishment may reduce the volume of the brain’s grey matter in areas associated with performance on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale, third edition (WAIS-III).36 In addition, physical punishment can cause alterations in the dopaminergic regions associated with vulnerability to the abuse of drugs and alcohol.37"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447048/


"Corporal punishment was related to increases, and maternal warmth was related to decreases, in children's anxiety and aggression over time; however, these associations varied somewhat across groups. Maternal warmth moderated the effect of corporal punishment in some countries, with increases in anxiety over time for children whose mothers were high in both warmth and corporal punishment"


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/...16.2014.893518
sounds like someone wants to create a generation of cucks that wont fight back or have any discipline. I'm sure a lot of us were smacked as discipline and turned out fine, yet today kids just seem to be getting worse with no punishment and on ipads 10 hours a day.
Originally Posted By wincel
idk...I don't think beating ur kid is always the answer...as someone who was beaten a lot I can say it isn't great.
Yeah but when most people talk bout disciplining a child that way, they're talking about smacking, not beating. Look at all the behavior problems from single parent families, where the kid is just given free reign and not nurtured, they have big increases in crime and mental instability.
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post 1583067171 06-30-2019, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted By kalvinmc
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Can't quote you properly, because I keep getting 404'd.
sounds like someone wants to create a generation of cucks that wont fight back or have any discipline.
How would beating your child teach them to 'fight back'?

An alternative for teaching discipline and self protection is; letting kids play Sports and Martial Arts.
I'm sure a lot of us were smacked as discipline and turned out fine, yet today kids just seem to be getting worse with no punishment and on ipads 10 hours a day.
The misc is not a good example of mental health IMO.

Violence in 1st world countries, generally - ie. Steven Pinker - is getting lower and lower, generation by generation.

Spending time with your kids doing teaching them a skill - e.g. hunting, archery, fixing a car, etc - is an alternative to letting them sit in front of a Ipad.
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post 1583075631 07-01-2019, 03:53 AM
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Devils...
Yeah but when most people talk bout disciplining a child that way, they're talking about smacking, not beating. Look at all the behavior problems from single parent families, where the kid is just given free reign and not nurtured, they have big increases in crime and mental instability.
Single parent families in and of themselves are arguably bad for the kid.

Two parents are better than one. Two different personality types, two people to discuss a problem, two different bonds with the child, having another person to share the stresses of adulthood and parenthood with, one parent can give the other parent a break to avoid burnout, etc.

Basically, I what I'm trying to say is that - arguably - the inherent problems of being a single parent isn't going to be fixed by smacking your children.

A child having feelings of abandonment, isn't going to be healed by smacking them.

A child not having a positive male role model in their life, isn't going to be changed by smacking them.

A single parent being constantly burned out, because they go straight from the stresses of a job to the stresses of parenthood without any break, isn't going to be changed by smacking their kids.

Like Sword said, in the African Diaspora smacking children is very common... Along with single parenthood... And it has a disproportionate rate of violent crime... Smacking kids ain't helping chit.
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post 1583075821 07-01-2019, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz
No, I'm saying as a father youre responsible for something far greater than efficiency & output, therefore, Father > Employer.

"Dont do something the way you want"..? This sounds like you're projecting your own personal experiences. I've never mentioned beating for frivolous things.

I like how the only thing ive mentioned in this arguement is "beat your kids", & youve just assumed 100 things of me.
Why you arguing with him? Look at his avi. Those are the eyes of a cuck. Probably raised by his mom.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824
Had you started with this, we wouldn't have spent 5 pages going back and forth. My point is, you tend to your kids properly from a young age, you won't need to hit them. Now when the kid is old enough to fight back, and physically your equal, you're welcome to take a swing at them, but personally, i wouldn't expect them to not swing back.
Shut the **** up. I was beat as a kid, but only when I was older I understood why. I was highly rebellious and unruly and if I wasn't beaten I would've walked all over them and maybe ended up with drug addiction or in jail. Parents beat their kids because they love them and want what's best for them, even if their kids can't understand just yet.
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post 1583075971 07-01-2019, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Devils...
Like Sword said, in the African Diaspora smacking children is very common... Along with single parenthood... And it has a disproportionate rate of violent crime... Smacking kids ain't helping chit.
Asian parents commonly smack their children, along with most immigrant non-cucked/lib families.

Are you implying that race is a factor?
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It’s frowned upon these days. I don’t think being a sloot is such a big deal anymore.

Also, her body looks like complete chit.
We’re all gonna make it.
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Originally Posted By dizzin9
It’s frowned upon these days. I don’t think being a sloot is such a big deal anymore.

Also, her body looks like complete chit.
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Originally Posted By UknowWho11
I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually **** her in every hole.

Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to **** her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.

As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
Why you arguing with him? Look at his avi. Those are the eyes of a cuck. Probably raised by his mom.
I was raised by my mom, but also by my father, because they've been married for 35 years, stay mad because you were abused, no wonder you turned out a retarded manlet.
Originally Posted By Tomohokk
Shut the **** up. I was beat as a kid, but only when I was older I understood why. I was highly rebellious and unruly and if I wasn't beaten I would've walked all over them and maybe ended up with drug addiction or in jail. Parents beat their kids because they love them and want what's best for them, even if their kids can't understand just yet.
You were beat as a kid because your parents didn't have the mental aptitude to deal with your discipline in a better manner. I truly do feel sorry for people like you, stunted because of their parent's ignorance. But I'm also grateful for all the bad parents, and mentally ill-developed man-children such as yourself. They show me exactly what not to do while raising my own children, It's through your sacrifice that I can ensure my offspring become the best version of themselves that they can be.
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Disgusting

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honestly not too worried, girls that act like this are pretty rare. lots of miscers acting like this is every other chick that you encounter on the street.
You guys, I'm seriously
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
Asian parents commonly smack their children, along with most immigrant non-cucked/lib families.

Are you implying that race is a factor?
You literally just read a post where I stated that;

Single parent families often causes psychological/developmental problems with kids.

Single parent families are common in the African Diaspora.

Smacking kids is not going to solve those problems.


Those immigrant and Asian families, do not have the same rate of single parent families like the African diaspora does. Nor do those kids grow up in the same culture as kids in the African Diaspora.

(If you want to see how much culture affects us, I highly recommend the book; The Geography Of Thought By Richard Nisbett - if you haven't already read it. Which compares Asian cultures with Western Cultures, by summarizing a lot of cross-cultural cognitive psychology research.)

I also posted research ITT that stated that physical punishment negatively affects kids, however some of the research said that the negative affects seemingly can be neutralized by other factors like an affectionate relationship with the kids mother... However that research also states that is dependent on culture... Some cultures the negative affect isn't neutralized, and in some cultures it is.

(However, why not simply stop assaulting children as a means of teaching them to be nice people? Because then no negative affect needs to be neutralized.)

So based on my posts, I'm clearly talking about culture and single parenthood as the most significant factor. And I've also clearly stated that smacking kids is not going to fix those problems.... Not at all, and I stand by that.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk
Look at those eyes. A lost soul.
This ^


Every one of these chicks has something wrong with them, that girl looks like she's a druggo and the mindvirus girl above looks like she's been fiddled or something. This sort of **** doesnt just happen overnight, these boys and girls have some bad experience happen to them.
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Originally Posted By DatPass
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Every one of these chicks has something wrong with them, that girl looks like she's a druggo and the mindvirus girl above looks like she's been fiddled or something. This sort of **** doesnt just happen overnight, these boys and girls have some bad experience happen to them.
I'll be honest...

I think that if anyone gets off on degradation and humiliation, then I think that they are a broken person.

I don't think the same about someone who may just get a physical stimulation (e.g. a woman who legit gets off on sucking dick or prefers getting phucked up the ass... Those women don't feel 'degraded' they just like doing the act. And would be offended if you said the have less worth because they like to do those things). But a woman or man who gets off on being devalued... IMO they have somethingseriouslywrong with them... Even if they are a socially functioning person.

Why would you get sexual pleasure from having your status/value lowered? Something seriously phucking wrong with men who get off on the humiliation of seeing their partners with someone else, and 'collared' women who get off in being spoken about and treated like crap.

I used to have a 'lasseiz-faire' attitude to it, until I thought about why they get off on having their self-esteem/status lowered... That is seriously messed up. I honestly hope they never become parents, until they sort that part of their psyche out.
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I think my favorite thing about the parenting debate ITT is the bros going at it over the best way to raise a child, while not having any children of their own. Take all your preconceived notions about parent hood and throw them out the window.

Late high-school / College experiences seem to shape a person more than their early years. Grew up with 2 siblings on a farm in a small rural town, They are both pretty extreme leftists, and I'm middle of the road maybe slightly right, parents both middle as well. We had near identical experiences and upbringing, what they were exposed to in college seems to have shaped them more into the people they are today.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz
Absolutely. However when a child acts like a child & won't listen to reason its up to the father to make sure his child does not learn the hard way. That's what fathers do, they protect by any means necessary & they teach. My point is, if that takes five across the eyes, then so be it.
In the end you are not protecting anyone, you are not preventing anything. You are teaching them they cannot come to you when they make a mistake, especially a grievous one in which you choose to be violent about. You do realize it did not work in slavery and it does not work with kids. The only way is through philosphy and leadership and openess to help if they make a grievous mistake and offer advice.

I am very self aware of my childhood, when ever I got whippings I was always thinking of ways how to do things without my parents finding out. It is not healthy relationship, instead of asking for help for my grades I would instead hide my report card in fear of a whipping, it did not encourage me to get better grades. Things that I did bad and became aware to was from my own self awareness, for example I was bullying a kid calling him four eyes, and I felt extreme sadness cause of how he reacted and his facial reaction, it made me feel real bad so I never did it again. I didn't stop doing it cause he kicked my ass, or my dad put a belt to me.

If we can learn anything from slavery, whipping doesn't do anything in terms of discpline. It just keeps people in line in your presence cause they don't like pain. We all want the best for our kids, but whipping won't help. Kids are going to make mistakes, possibly terrible ones. But the best you can do is be wise and be open and offer solutions, not butting heads with your kids over politics, and your personal views, throwing tantrums, etc. My best mentor was my grandmother as a kid who offered wisdom about decision making, and learning, etc she was a teacher. Encouraged me to love reading, and learning, and very wise look on life.When I did something bad she would sit down and talk about it like a philospher. It kind of has passed down on to me which is why I am this way and you are the way you are, all you know is the belt.
I just want to share the knowledge I have obtained throughout my life and hopefully change someone's life.
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