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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

Regarding the vague tweet # 22, see my previous post in response to ImpressiveGainz.

Yeah the FBI is full of shіt dude. I was just reading an NBC story yesterday from October 19, 2020. The FBI said they were still in the process of determining whether the laptop had been hacked by foreign actors during that time. You gotta remember that they had the laptop in their possession since 2019, directly from the Delaware laptop shop. They weren't trying to help put this "Russian disinformation" narrative to bed -they were the ones that made it up.

I'm wondering why they didn't just ask the FBI though? If they put any weight into what the FBI said, why didn't they reach out to their contacts? At the very least they would have their direct statement on file. And the final thing is why did they suppress the dissemination the way they did? They could have let it disseminate with a caution warning, which I thought seemed to be the route that Jim Baker was alluding to, however someone at Twitter made the conscious effort to make sure the suppression was extreme. My understanding is that they used a mechanism that was rarely used and only used for things like child pornography.

I have never disputed that the story was wrongfully suppressed by Twitter. My argument is that you are placing way more blame on the FBI than Twitter when the Twitter files seem to indicate that Twitter went to fairly extreme measures to stop dissemination with little due diligence whatsoever and without the consent or advice of many Twitter employees. To me, these files read as Twitter opportunistically suppressing the storypossiblybecause it was beneficial to their side, especially someone like Yoel Roth who is a notorious public Trump hater. But that is my own speculation.

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12-07-2022, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩

I'm wondering why they didn't just ask the FBI though? If they put any weight into what the FBI said, why didn't they reach out to their contacts? At the very least they would have their direct statement on file. And the final thing is why did they suppress the dissemination the way they did? They could have let it disseminate with a caution warning, which I thought seemed to be the route that Jim Baker was alluding to, however someone at Twitter made the conscious effort to make sure the suppression was extreme. My understanding is that they used a mechanism that was rarely used and only used for things like child pornography.

I have never disputed that the story was wrongfully suppressed by Twitter. My argument is that you are placing way more blame on the FBI than Twitter when the Twitter files seem to indicate that Twitter went to fairly extreme measures to stop dissemination with little due diligence whatsoever and without the consent or advice of many Twitter employees. To me, these files read as Twitter opportunistically suppressing the storypossiblybecause it was beneficial to their side, especially someone like Yoel Roth who is a notorious public Trump hater. But that is my own speculation.

We have no idea what Jim Baker has possibly suppressed just from the release of this info. It is possible they reached out to the FBI and we just haven't seen it.

I agree with you that Twitter was overzealous in censoring the story, however, the FBI deserves culpability because they fed social media this Hunter Biden hack-and-leak operation story.

Where was the Hunter Biden foreign hack-and-leak operation? There was none. The FBI lied.

12-07-2022, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

We have no idea what Jim Baker has possibly suppressed just from the release of this info. It is possible they reached out to the FBI and we just haven't seen it.

I agree with you that Twitter was overzealous in censoring the story, however, the FBI deserves culpability because they fed social media this Hunter Biden hack-and-leak operation story.

Where was the Hunter Biden foreign hack-and-leak operation? There was none. The FBI lied.

Even with more Twitter files coming out you are not going to get the answers you want until they launch a real investigation and get people (not only from Twitter and the SF FBI office but ******** too) under oath. Right now, any culpability on the FBI is very minimal in comparison to Twitter's actions in my opinion... but that is just based on what I've seen so far from this. Sure, I have friends in the FBI so maybe I'm biased. But from this story alone, I put little weight into the vague warning issued by the FBI compared to the extreme lock-down on dissemination by Twitter. I don't feel Twitter felt pressured and you might call it overzealous... personally, I think it was more opportunistic. The people at Twitter making these decisions are leftists and very publicly vocal Trump hater. I am not saying that is the reason but there are enough tweets from Yoel Roth to demonstrate motive.

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12-07-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩

Twitter is filled with left wing higher ups. Just look at Yoel Roth who is an extreme leftist and is in the middle of this. That's why there is no doubt in my mind that they would willingly hire someone like Jim Baker and internally take the initiative to suppress dissemination of NY Post story. I don't think anyone is debating that part. As far as the FBI pressuring them, no one at Twitter or ******** has claimed that and the reporters cited above found the opposite once reviewing the Twitter files. It's perfectly sensible to investigate it, but there will be a hard time proving the FBI pressured them when no one at Twitter or ******** will admit to that. Having said that, if they can prove Jim Baker was in discussions with someone at the FBI who was instructing him to suppress the NY Post article then you have a real story into government collusion.

The fbi doesn’t need to force compliance when the ideologues are willing to use any excuse to push a narrative. When proven wrong, they will just claim plausible deniability.

The same was the case with the Russian collusion hoax. The Clinton campaign didn’t need to coerce anyone into taking extreme steps to spy on trump and to try to bring him down— the fbi and doj was more than willing to run with the manufactured dirt.

That doesn’t make it less illegal. It just shows the depth of corruption at our institutions.

12-07-2022, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

Regarding the vague tweet # 22, see my previous post in response to ImpressiveGainz.

Yeah the FBI is full of shіt dude. I was just reading an NBC story yesterday from October 19, 2020. The FBI said they were still in the process of determining whether the laptop had been hacked by foreign actors during that time. You gotta remember that they had the laptop in their possession since 2019, directly from the Delaware laptop shop. They weren't trying to help put this "Russian disinformation" narrative to bed -they were the ones that made it up.

Also- Twitter never once acted to suppress any leaked or hacked trump documents.

Why the double standard? Oh wait…

These people act, and then find a way to justify their action. If called out, they hide behind plausible deniability and vague references of making the best decision with limited info, etc.

Though that argument falls apart, just like it doesn’t fit the fbi, when all actions align to protect dems and the establishment, and hurt republicans and those who question the narrative.

12-07-2022, 11:16 AM

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Funny how no one here complained about foreign interference on social media in 2016... that literally pushed Trump over the edge by a few thousand votes in three swing states. But Twitter not allowing something that wasn't verified right before the 2020 election? THIS IS THE BIGGEST SCANDAL EVAR!!!1111!!!!!!

12-07-2022, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩

Funny how no one here complained about foreign interference on social media in 2016... that literally pushed Trump over the edge by a few thousand votes in three swing states. But Twitter not allowing something that wasn't verified right before the 2020 election? THIS IS THE BIGGEST SCANDAL EVAR!!!1111!!!!!!

Are you talking about the memes that literally included memes that were both pro trump and pro Clinton?

That’s a little different than the fbi working to suppress evidence that joe Biden sold out his vp office to foreign govts for $$$. If that were trump, the fbi would have 10 special counsels investigating and the msm and social media would have been on fire.

12-07-2022, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩

Also- Twitter never once acted to suppress any leaked or hacked trump documents.

Why the double standard? Oh wait…

These people act, and then find a way to justify their action. If called out, they hide behind plausible deniability and vague references of making the best decision with limited info, etc.

Though that argument falls apart, just like it doesn’t fit the fbi, when all actions align to protect dems and the establishment, and hurt republicans and those who question the narrative.

Are you really asking "why?" You know the people that work at Twitter. It's not hard to find motivation.

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12-07-2022, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩

Are you really asking "why?" You know the people that work at Twitter. It's not hard to find motivation.

I’m just saying that their excuse holds no water based on past actions (or lack of action).

12-07-2022, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩

Are you talking about the memes that literally included memes that were both pro trump and pro Clinton?

That’s a little different than the fbi working to suppress evidence that joe Biden sold out his vp office to foreign govts for $$$. If that were trump, the fbi would have 10 special counsels investigating and the msm and social media would have been on fire.

I remember a few years back when the FBI dropped one of the biggest October surprises to re-open the Clinton email investigation 11 days prior to the election. I recall a lot of Democrats attacking the FBI for swinging the election to Trump and calling for Comey's head. They seem to be the #1 scapegoat for all election losses now.

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12-07-2022, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted By rampagefc77⏩

I’m just saying that their excuse holds no water based on past actions (or lack of action).

Correct. Even the Twitter employees internally said that. I just haven't drawn the same lines to holding the FBI accountable for it. Like I said, even James Baker wasn't convinced it was necessarily a hack and didn't seem to push for such extreme measures. Not saying more can't come out to change that... but going by what I've seen so far.

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12-07-2022, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩

I remember a few years back when the FBI dropped one of the biggest October surprises to re-open the Clinton email investigation 11 days prior to the election. I recall a lot of Democrats attacking the FBI for swinging the election to Trump and calling for Comey's head. They seem to be the #1 scapegoat for all election losses now.

People don’t understand the context of comey opening up the Clinton investigation.

From fbi texts, weiner handed ver Clinton’s emails in exchange for a lighter sentence in his sexting case (the NYPD didn’t stumble upon them as was reported). The NYPD reviewed them and were ready to press charges. There were rumblings of this and other details prior to the election, and the other details ended up being true after the fact. There is no reason to believe that the charges were false when everything else proved to be true.

The fbi and doj did everything they could to protect Clinton and take over the case. The doj threatened charges in the idle Eric Gardner case, and lynch went as far as threatening the NYPD and removing all agents on the case and replacing them with new ones (look it up).

The NYPD handed over the case with the promise of the fbi acting quickly. Coney publicly stated he opened the cases.

A few days later, comey tells us that a bu team working around the clock and metadata magic allowed his agents to review all files and there was nothing there. Clinton was clean.

In later testimony, strzok and 2 others reviewed 3k files out of over 300k in a single afternoon. The fbi and cia tech departments both said that metadata couldn’t be relied open for the files.

The fbi buried the investigation and gave Clinton the stamp of approval before the election. Considering the NYPD was ready to press charges, that was the best possible outcome for the dems and Clinton. They still thought she would win. **** hit the fan when she didn’t, hence the trump attacks and investigation, along with their cover up.

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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩

I remember a few years back when the FBI dropped one of the biggest October surprises to re-open the Clinton email investigation 11 days prior to the election. I recall a lot of Democrats attacking the FBI for swinging the election to Trump and calling for Comey's head. They seem to be the #1 scapegoat for all election losses now.

Comey's actions were a result of someone within the Department of Justice pushing to get the case out there if he didn't. He had no choice but to get in front of it and mitigate the damage.

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12-07-2022, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩

Comey's actions were a result of someone within the Department of Justice pushing to get the case out there if he didn't. He had no choice but to get in front of it and mitigate the damage.

Comey aside then, theFBIstill violated the JD's protocols of disclosing details of an investigation so close to an election, hence the Democrats disdain for the FBI at that time. Not that I blame the FBI for Hillary losing but there will always be those who do.

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12-07-2022, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩

Comey aside then, theFBIstill violated the JD's protocols of disclosing details of an investigation so close to an election, hence the Democrats disdain for the FBI at that time. Not that I blame the FBI for Hillary losing but there will always be those who do.

The alternative was Clinton being indicted and exposure of her emails. Too many people would get wrapped up in that and Clinton and the establishment had made too many assurances based on the presumption of her winning office.

Again, that was the best possible outcome for Clinton and the dems. Sure— most people are clueless regarding the details so the can blame comey and the fbi without anyone questioning the narrative, but it is simply untrue. The fbi agents who handled the case belong in jail. Ironically, they were the same agents who handled the Clinton server case as the trump case. Treated those cases quite different… wouldn’t you say?

And unfortunately, knowing that this is taking place, the only chance for reform is an anti-establishment candidate. And our only anti-establishment candidate is trump.

People want to believe desantis is a trump without baggage, but he is bought and paid for by the establishment. We squabble about trivial things when our govt and institutions are completely corrupted.

Our country is screwed.

12-07-2022, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted By Audioslave⏩

Comey aside then, theFBIstill violated the JD's protocols of disclosing details of an investigation so close to an election, hence the Democrats disdain for the FBI at that time. Not that I blame the FBI for Hillary losing but there will always be those who do.

Hate to break it to you, but while the bureau may have some honorable agents whose hearts are in the right place, there is extreme institutional corruption within the organizatiion.

This isn't Right Wing speculation, this is evident through the bureau's conduct within several high profile cases, through Congressional whistleblowers, and first hand accounts. And the bureau doesn't take lightly to those within who speak out.

Look at the media circuses, appearances, and jobs given to corrupt agents. Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page.

Ignoring the obvious political connections between the FBI and the Media is one of the defining characteristics of being an NPC Liberal. It's as if the lens that Liberals look through is essentially a vacuum where no peripheral information is considered unless politically convenient. Which is also how the media is able to gaslight so many people because they dictate how or what people think about any topic.

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Wow. Looks like they were trying to hide data and may have deleted some data.

12-07-2022, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

Wow. Looks like they were trying to hide data and may have deleted some data.

And people wonder why trump tried to declassify and take russiagate documents when he left office…

Just like the pivotal fbi 302s in the Flynn case that magically vanished, those documents would have been toast.

As it is, the Durham no investigation has been blocking any release of the documents publicly. And just when Durham was finishing up, the Biden fbi swooped in to take them. Convenient.

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

Wow. Looks like they were trying to hide data and may have deleted some data.

I hope all of those[color=red]Demonic[color]Liberal pieces of sh*t burn in hell for all eternity

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No Im not. It’s not even on local news that’s how much of a nothingburger it is … I’m sure right wing violent extremists websites are all over it because that’s what they do and that’s why your concerned.

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12-08-2022, 06:16 PM

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Bari Weiss just droppedThe Twitter Files Part 2.

It's not about the NY Post censorship of the laptop story. It's about shadow banning conservative accounts, which twitter said they didn't do.

12-08-2022, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

Bari Weiss just droppedThe Twitter Files Part 2.

Just finished reading it...INB4 "It's a private company!"

Best thread: http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showthread.php?t=168274783
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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

Bari Weiss just droppedThe Twitter Files Part 2.

It's not about the NY Post censorship of the laptop story. It's about shadow banning conservative accounts, which twitter said they didn't do.

i read the thread.. not surprised. we all knew that they were suppressing covid information that didn't follow the narrative but we were called conspiracy theorists.

12-08-2022, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted By ImpressiveGainz⏩

Just finished reading it...INB4 "It's a private company!"

Originally Posted By bertishere⏩

i read the thread.. not surprised. we all knew that they were suppressing covid information that didn't follow the narrative but we were called conspiracy theorists.

Yeah this was all pretty much common knowledge that they did shadow banning.

I was hoping for more details related to the NY Post censorship story, based off the last drop that said Jim Baker was making the release complicated. Bari said they have broad and expanding access, so expect more. And Taibbi has the next release, so hopefully it is on whatever Baker could had been covering up. Not holding my breath, though.

12-08-2022, 06:56 PM

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So, Twatter caught red-handed. Again.

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

Yeah this was all pretty much common knowledge that they did shadow banning.

I was hoping for more details related to the NY Post censorship story, based off the last drop that said Jim Baker was making the release complicated. Bari said they have broad and expanding access, so expect more. And Taibbi has the next release, so hopefully it is on whatever Baker could had been covering up. Not holding my breath, though.

As much as I want to believe Ellen Muskovitz is trying to actually have some sort of transparency here, this seems too good to be true...but it's not really anything damning in the sense that people are going to jail. I have a feeling this is just to appease conservatives who can then say "I told you so!" to their dip**** lefty friends at the bar while the CCP continues to take over the country piece by piece. We all know no one is going to hang for this crap, even if it's absolutely treasonous.