you think women only reject hard obvious no's first and then are open to everyone else by default.

In reality everyone is invisible to them by default and then only those who meet their very strict specific standards even are considered as options in their eyes.

It makes a big difference. Women dont walk into a room with 100 men and say 'ew those 10 guys are deformed but the other 90 look ok enough for me to give them a shot'.

What happens is they walk into that room and ignore 95 of those men who are as good as invisible and only entertain the 5 they are attracted to in the first place.

No women would be on it. they get enough options on regular apps with men above their league.

its really as simple as this. These miscers dont understand how many men are filtered out immediately and have no shot.

As someone who gets filtered out immediately, there's nothing you can do. You were never an option. This guy hoe_math describes it perfectly.

This is nonsense outside of dating apps. What actually happens is a woman walks into a room with a 100 men, and she may only actively or consciously find 5-10 overwhelmingly attractive. She may dismiss 10 as being too hideous to care about, and she'll be neutral on the rest (not a visceral reaction of lust, but not a complete dismissal either). This is where a man can leverage other qualities aside from looks which can in fact make a big difference. You see attractiveness as a binary, which is true on tinder only.

bbmg is 5'3 and black. Sure he can get a gf but she's gonna be ugly as sin lol. He's better off using his 6 figure income on a sugarbaby

Dating apps is by far the most common way new relationships start in 2024. even if it was true that this only happens on apps, thats a huge blow to the dating opportunities for single men today.

And as I've said 1 million times, it is not only happening on apps. Women's standards are inflated everywhere you go. Men are the way you describe, reasonable treating most women as 'netural'. Women are not that way. they see most men as unattractive and those men have no shot out of the gates. Every single data point and the experience of modern men at large is telling you this but you refuse to see it.

I don't understand how you can deny this when: male communities like MGTOW and incels are bigger than ever, when redpill content is hyper successful, when men like Andrew Tate are hyper successful, when men are rushing to get their passports to find a wife abroad, etc. If women were indeed treating most men reasonably in dating, none of this chit would be happening or it wouldn't have been so successful. You think men with reasonable dating prospects follows redpill and incel content? fuk no, they'd be out getting with those reasonable women willing to give so many average men a second look. IT DOESNT HAPPEN

You're like an idiot who tries to say the rise of online shopping hasnt impacted greatly brick and mortar retail.

Its all connected. To keep repeating the delusion that it isnt just shows how out of touch you are.

Wrong. Most couples meet in the grocery store and at the zoo in 2024 according to a recent Stanford study.

brb zoomaxxing

Nah, you're just wrong about this. You're blinkered by your resentment and bitterness, which is understandable, but it's a bad way to go.

The difference between your analogy of shopping and what we're talking about is that human beings are not software programs. If you happen to meet someone through social circle or through some other activities, the mere fact that she's used an app before doesn't mean she's now forever holding out for Chad Thunder-Cock. This is a caricature you've adopted from rotting on black pill sites.

It's your choice how you choose to go forward, but even you've forever given up on dating, your mind frame currently is not conducive to good long-term mental or emotional health, so you should ditch it for that reason.

You take everything I say to a literal autistic extreme. Obviously not literally every woman only accepts the exact same stereotype 5% giga chad.

But a lot of them do, and in general we can say 'women's standards are highly inflated and they only consider a small % of the men they meet as viable and reject the rest without any real consideration. this is why so many men today are lonely and desperate and have little to no options'.

This was never the case before because women never had so many options before that they could behave this way.

If you refuse to accept common sense and reality, this is the last time im going to bother explaining this chit to you. you're fuking retarded.


I also have no idea with your "people arent software" excuse. The point is its a market. Dating is subject to the same supply and demand dynamics as any other market. And online radically changed both.

Again, to not see this is to be a dumbazz.

Lol, yes you can. The trick is to not be mentally ill.

He doesn't get it. Womens standards are getting pickier and pickier. A lot of these women are alpha widows who had a fling with a Chad back when they were 23 and hot and they are now forever chasing that high. They will not date down, and when they do the thought of their man making sexual advancements makes their skin crawl. Being single without kids and dying alone is the option a lot of these women are opting for.

are you basically promoting the oofy doofy theory?

Probably helps not to be on the Misc with a new username every day of the year telling everyone you want to play with some other miscers butthole

can some one write cliffs on this thread pls

As society further pushes the boundaries of "freedom", females will revert to harem style mating. This is what Americans support.

This is it. And we're the exact same age.

Lol, you've been "explaining this chit" to people here for years; everyone understands what you mean, but those who don't reside in your little blackpill youtube/4Chan community reject it, and for good reason.

Btw, the supply/demand model, outside of casual sex, doesn't work the same way in dating. You think that because a 5/10 woman has been exposed to online dating at some point that she's constantly comparing everyone she meets to the hottest dude she matched/hooked up with, and so no 5 man ever has a chance anymore. That's where the "software" analogy comes in. Doesn't work that way.

But yeah, you can be done with me. Five years from now you'll still be warning everyone about the impending incel triggered societal collapse that never came, and everyone else will have moved on.

Look around you. You are watching the collapse. It's sad that incels chose to side with nazis over commies. The incel revolution IS the commie revolution. It's the same revolution of the oppressed and downtrodden against the bourgeoisie. It is the gross inequality of power, money, and purpose that leads to the exploitation and alienation of men. The Chads banging all the women and reducing them to whores aren't commies. They are usually wealthy capitalists from the elite managerial class of imperialist countries. And if they aren't, they quickly rise to become members of that class due to fortunes of their birth, such as physical attractiveness, height, etc.

People here complain about the BBC, but it is usually only rich blacks, gangsters, models, athletes, etc cucking the men. The OKCupid stats showed black men have it hardest in dating. The data reflects the true class struggle. True nazis will eradicate the incels and purge them. They favor aesthetics over logic. Incels should side with the far left and seek the extermination of the bourgeoisie and nazis for a more equitable society. At the very least, they can obtain NEETbux and rejoice as rich Chads are butchered. No more yacht club sex parties for Stacy and Chad. They can be miserable and rot in the gulag, like us. Think!

Interesting. I have never heard of this theory before. I spend absolutely zero time in the incel community so these are all just observations I have noticed in real life among normies and online.

I do not believe this theory is the case now. Women do not prefer to date these men now. They would rather die alone. However I was just doing some reading a minute go dating back to maybe 2019 in regards to some tiktok trends and it seems theres a shift towards women wanting timothee chalamets, jim from the office and probably some dude in new girl. This would align with oofy doofy theory. I think we are just now seeing the results of full female hypergamy and dating strategy. I say this based on my own experience as well. Im 30 and have been invisible my entire adult life. In the past 3 months im all of a sudden not invisible anymore and have started to date women just a little bit younger than me.

I fit the build of what you would consider an oofy doofy. Maybe a 6.2-6.5, average height, muscular, good hair, kind personality, funny, non threatening facial features. Im not a Chad, but if you are a woman who is approaching her 30's and you have only had relationships with bad men then I look like an easy mark. Women are starting to hit that age where women around them that are a little older are still single and married with no kids.

Put yourself in a womans shoes for minute. You are a 27 year old woman at work and your female coworkers are older. Stacey clocked out early for the day because she had an appointment at the fertility clinic. Shes starting her new journey in life because men will not commit to her and wants to freeze her eggs at 34 because she wants to give herself the ability to date without pressuring men with marriage and kids because she still has eggs in the bank. You as a 27 year old woman start to think about your own life a little bit. How do your relationships with men look? Do guys come over and get the milk from the cow for free and dip? Women will start to notice a bit of a pattern and see their peers with what would be considered an "oofy doofy" man and they are already settling down married and having kids.

Believe me I could very well be full of cope, but I think trends and memes are just a mirror and a future look into what society is thinking about. Think about Elvis for a minute. Society at that point was very rigid. Elvis got up on stage and started gyrating his pelvis and women absolutely got soaked. The pendulum now seems like its starting to swing back and women are looking to be like Jim and Pam from the office. Its definitely something im going to need to look into more, but seeing people like Timothee Chalamet come out of nowhere and rarely seeing young women with traditionally masculine figures when im out in public leads me to believe that society is changing.

you don't get to talk about dating or about anything normal people do,


you're a basement dwelling idiot, you still chit your pants occasionally so STFU srs

alright cool it with the wall of texts please. youre contradicting yourself. saying its not true now and then saying you are an oofy doof yourself and youre seeing it. i would recomend watching faceandlms vs hellbythedashboardlight which is basically the start of the oofy doof theory and its a funny debate.

I was merely saying that its not true now as oofy doofy is a newer fringe dating strategy. Its happening, just not at scale.

The apps are like shooting fish in a barrel for women.

Whomever is right that you may match and talk to guys who are ok looking but then you match with a good looking guy with game and he becomes your pick.

I only use Bumble when I travel as casual as obviously the gosl but I won’t use them at home as I don’t want hookups. Plus the guys back home aren’t my type at all. European and Southern American men are hnnng.

But the 21 year old blonde hottie and the hot 32 year old blonde bodybuilder Marine slid in the list and became the priority and who I met.

Europeans in particular are quite fascinating to talk to.

How many STD's do you have? Pathetic cum dumpster slut bragging about getting pumped and dumped

No man of any value would marry you

Disgusting whore

I think dating in general theses days will make you go crazy - online dating will make your head explode, especially when you read threads like this one

What you're describing is more like online dating behaviour than it is 'woman walks into a room' behaviour.

When it comes to actual human interaction, in real-life, your understanding is off. When women walk into a room, they don't treat the sitatuion like they do when scrolling through the 100+ matches on their phone. There are completely different human dynamics at play.

They kinda do.

The bar is lower irl but you’re still being compared to a 10/10 chad from tinder that she never even met and might even be ai generated.

Thankfully I've always had game when it comes to online chatting/dating. I can definitely see how to would be s hit and a waste of time for brahs who can't get any pussy to begin with or are ugly as f uck though

That's easy to fix - just build a thing into the dating app where if a male tries to join and there's already too many males to females (like when it tips >55% male <45% female) you can't join yet. Since it allows only females to join while that's going on, eventually new male positions would become available. It could just keep itself balanced. There's a big gap in the market LOL.

The hard part is determining what makes them ugly - something they are unlikely to admit to, so it would have to have like a quick questionnaire asking how much they typically get rejected on "normal" dating apps. That's why they would be joining the ugly dating app in the first place, they won't get rejected as much.