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03-25-2024, 10:21 AM
#241
Originally Posted By Anachron
Interesting opinion.

Why should I be permabanned?

Not an opinion. You know why, I'm not going back and forth with you.
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03-25-2024, 10:22 AM
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(except doxxing and we all know someone here didn't get banned for that and I called it in the thread that got deleted that he wouldn't)
Fortunately, z4 did get banned when he was doxxing. In this other case, I'll sidestep the argument about whether posting someone's face and linking their reddit account is or isn't doxxing. I will refer to it as an invasion of someone's privacy, but not to try and downplay it, just we all can decide whether it is or isn't and I'm not interested in bringing anyone else into this side-debate to go over it.

When I invaded Bodhy's privacy, by quote-posting a comment that had his actual picture, that is not the same as finding it and revealing it to begin with, something the person who did do it accepted a lengthy ban over. What I did is a lesser violation and one apparently whoever saw it or saw it being reported resolved by removing it.

Whether I wouldn't delete the thread, I wasn't given the choice. I certainly would have – although I admit, I let my (at the time) anger and dislike of Bodhy cloud my judgement to post it in the first place. I wouldn't make the thread, or I would have and just left that part out, were I to redo it. Although the reason behind the thread was my thinking Bodhy was spamming the forums, which I only thought due to circumstantial things, something he denies and something still going on and I now doubt is him.

You're pretty hung up on this, as you keep bringing it up, but it doesn't bother me. Other than wanting to add context to it when you do it, but I'm not put out by making longer more nuanced posts like this, I do it all the time. I suspect your history with me and opinion of me is fueling a lot of why you feel like you do, which also whatever, because that also does not bother me and the fact you are posting like a "Good Poster" now, that's what is important to me.

Good poster, not in a derogatory "haha, good boy" knock either, I mean yeah this is all I ask of anyone, even myself. To come here, you don't have to like or agree with or even respect anybody else, but make a point and be cool about it.

Something z4 never learned.
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03-25-2024, 10:23 AM
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Fortunately, z4 did get banned when he was doxxing. In this other case, I'll sidestep the argument about whether posting someone's face and linking their reddit account is or isn't doxxing. I will refer to it as an invasion of someone's privacy, but not to try and downplay it, just we all can decide whether it is or isn't and I'm not interested in bringing anyone else into this side-debate to go over it.

When I invaded Bodhy's privacy, by quote-posting a comment that had his actual picture, that is not the same as finding it and revealing it to begin with, something the person who did do it accepted a length ban over. It is a lesser violation and one apparently whoever saw it or saw it being reported resolved by removing it.

Whether I wouldn't delete the thread, I wasn't given the choice. I certainly would have – although I admit, I let my (at the time) anger and dislike of Bodhy cloud my judgement to post it in the first place. I wouldn't make the thread, or I would have and just left that part out, were I to redo it.

You're pretty hung up on this, as you keep bringing it up, but it doesn't bother me. Other than wanting to add context to it when you do it, but I'm not put out by making longer more nuanced posts like this, I do it all the time. I suspect your history with me and opinion of me is fueling a lot of why you feel like you do, which also whatever, because that also does not bother me and the fact you are posting like a "Good Poster" now, that's what is important to me.

Good poster, not in a derogatory "haha, good boy" knock either, I mean yeah this is all I ask of anyone, even myself. To come here, you don't have to like or agree with or even respect anybody else, but make a point and be cool about it.
Z4 didn't dox. At all. Let me know when he posts pic of you after someone else got banned for doing the same.
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03-25-2024, 10:24 AM
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As a reminder, I firmly think people need to cool it with Bodhy. Which, not to be a broken record, but it's specifically some of the things on that reddit account that opened my eyes a bit to what kind of person was sitting behind the computer screen. We've all got problems, none of us were born perfect, with a silver spoon in our mouth, two loving parents who made no mistakes and had an idealistic, loving, supportive and picturesque childhood. Yet, some of us carry more baggage than others, and in some cases it's just tough luck with the cards they were dealt in life.

Someone like that, who has had unique and greater challenges than myself and I assume all of you, I am going to give that person a lot more space and leeway here on this stupid dying forum. I would urge others to rethink things a bit on that as well. It's really time to let that stuff die off.

Now, all that chit out of the way: zero doubt of who it was and the evidence of that was beyond overwhelming to the point of it not even being a question. I won't fault someone embarrassed for trying to deflect, but we all know whose account it was (prior to it being deleted, shortly after it being linked to the person who would now have us believe it is a wild theory to suggest it was his own).
Body is on record saying how it easy it was to have sex with pre pubescent lady boys in Thailand.

Fuk him.
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03-25-2024, 10:24 AM
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Not an opinion. You know why, I'm not going back and forth with you.
So if it is not an opinion, you can link the reference that would make it not an opinion, right?

But you can't, because that is all it is, a personal opinion.

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03-25-2024, 10:35 AM
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Z4 didn't dox. At all. Let me know when he posts pic of you after someone else got banned for doing the same.
z4 posted my personal information without my permission and information I do not give out. He claims I did but I refute it and nobody else ever saw this post he says I made, nor has he produced it, even after demanding BeachPro quote-prove it when Beach said z4 has called his wife a whore many times. He also notes how could he know then, which I won't suggest how, but note it is within the realm of possibility.

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Body is on record saying how it easy it was to have sex with pre pubescent lady boys in Thailand.

Fuk him.
I helped spread that thought back in the day, so only for that I re-bring this up.

He said lady boys, ones he found via Tinder. Not knowing dick about Tinder but having a glimmer of knowledge about Thai sex markets, many of which deal with human trafficked minors who are brought in young and under horrible situations, but it was coincidentally z4v4 himself who enlightened me: Tinder verifies age, I think 18. Good thing he knew that, I don't know how or why, but z4v4 knows how Tinder works.

So, Bodhy never specified their age and even the implication the Ladyboys could be underage, because it's so flagrant and common, is countered by him using Tinder to 'match' or hook up, whatever the **** they call it, but in theory Tinder would have them at least claim to be 18.

So, I'd walk that part that back – well, I did at least. I also think you should, but I'm not going to die on that Hill and demand how you talk to or about Bodhy.
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03-25-2024, 10:47 AM
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z4 posted my personal information without my permission and information I do not give out. He claims I did but I refute it and nobody else ever saw this post he says I made, nor has he produced it, even after demanding BeachPro quote-prove it when Beach said z4 has called his wife a whore many times. He also notes how could he know then, which I won't suggest how, but note it is within the realm of possibility.

I helped spread that thought back in the day, so only for that I re-bring this up.

He said lady boys, ones he found via Tinder. Not knowing dick about Tinder but having a glimmer of knowledge about Thai sex markets, many of which deal with human trafficked minors who are brought in young and under horrible situations, but it was coincidentally z4v4 himself who enlightened me: Tinder verifies age, I think 18. Good thing he knew that, I don't know how or why, but z4v4 knows how Tinder works.

So, Bodhy never specified their age and even the implication the Ladyboys could be underage, because it's so flagrant and common, is countered by him using Tinder to 'match' or hook up, whatever the **** they call it, but in theory Tinder would have them at least claim to be 18.

So, I'd walk that part that back – well, I did at least. I also think you should, but I'm not going to die on that Hill and demand how you talk to or about Bodhy.
I kinda question putting this much thought into this topic…

But I guess the misc is srs business.

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03-25-2024, 10:59 AM
#248
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Grow up.
Oh, I'm quite certain I'm the adult in this conversation Patty.

Because in the 20 years that I've been here I lost count of the number of times that I've been banned.. There was even a three month perma-ban included in that once.

New alts created, or crying about it once I came back not even once.
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03-25-2024, 11:02 AM
#249
Originally Posted By Anachron
I kinda question putting this much thought into this topic…

But I guess the misc is srs business.

I think it comes down to context.

Going to z4, the topic of this thread: z4 is the Queen of cherry-picking and omission when it comes to his diatribes about someone. He's real good about singling one thing out, removing all context, or even implying context that isn't there to make things seem negative/positive depending on what he's doing.

While it's all technically true, it's also a form of lying and manipulation.

Me, I have no qualms owning up to something I did, such as the thread about Bodhy. I know what I did, just as you know what you did or even Bodhy himself knows what he's done, if those allegations from theFornicator1 have any weight to them. Any even beyond that, we all do and say chit all the time.

I could spend my time and effort trying to lawyer my way around things, find things to manipulate the situation, while carefully omitting anything that goes against the house of cards I was building…

or, just fuk it: It is what is is.

I quote-posted Bodhy's picutre in a thread trying to get him to stop spamming the forums. I thought he was spamming because he was humiliated and trying to push the picture off the front page and thought, that cat is out of the bag (and it was, we *all* saw it) and if he could accept that maybe he'd stop fuking with things.

Later, I thought about it and changed my mind on a couple things: That I no longer really even know or think it was him even spamming, which would mean the thread itself was pointless and that also I felt I'd let my dislike of Bodhy not take his feelings into as much consideration as I should have and I think I've apologized to him thrice for my part in it and admitted I should have not taken as long as I did to get to that conclusion.

That is pretty much it. Neither cherry picking anything to make myself look any better or worse, nor am I pretending or acting like it's perfectly fine for z4 to doxx people's personal information, also in a (failed) attempt to humiliate them as he did, but it's perma-bannable to quote-post a picture of Bodhy.

I think, pretty damn consistent.
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03-25-2024, 11:04 AM
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Wincel? If so, I'd love it if you were allowed back. I enjoy your perspectives, I'm as likely to strongly disagree as agree, but we're here to talk.

I think the problem is some past behaviors and previous bans. I won't go into details there, and I don't really even know much of it, but I wish you'd sit down with someone and hash it out and find a way to have a permanent account again. This would probably mean some concessions on your part, about name calling or (I never saw it) but the rumored doxxing. You're more than capable of making a point without that stuff, though. Just my $0.02.

I find the anti-black stuff in particular very gross. The Jew chit is sometimes more playful, but many also take it to bad places. I see less of people hating on TG, more people upset with the society than kneels before them… but I also rarely venture outside of this section, the wrestling sub or the gaming sub - not the general misc where this chit is more rampant.
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03-25-2024, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA
I think it comes down to context.

Going to z4, the topic of this thread: z4 is the Queen of cherry-picking and omission when it comes to his diatribes about someone. He's real good about singling one thing out, removing all context, or even implying context that isn't there to make things seem negative/positive depending on what he's doing.

While it's all technically true, it's also a form of lying and manipulation.

Me, I have no qualms owning up to something I did, such as the thread about Bodhy. I know what I did, just as you know what you did or even Bodhy himself knows what he's done, if those allegations from theFornicator1 have any weight to them. Any even beyond that, we all do and say chit all the time.

I could spend my time and effort trying to lawyer my way around things, find things to manipulate the situation, while carefully omitting anything that goes against the house of cards I was building…

or, just fuk it: It is what is is.

I quote-posted Bodhy's picutre in a thread trying to get him to stop spamming the forums. I thought he was spamming because he was humiliated and trying to push the picture off the front page and thought, that cat is out of the bag (and it was, we *all* saw it) and if he could accept that maybe he'd stop fuking with things.

Later, I thought about it and changed my mind on a couple things: That I no longer really even know or think it was him even spamming, which would mean the thread itself was pointless and that also I felt I'd let my dislike of Bodhy not take his feelings into as much consideration as I should have and I think I've apologized to him thrice for my part in it and admitted I should have not taken as long as I did to get to that conclusion.

That is pretty much it. Neither cherry picking anything to make myself look any better or worse, nor am I pretending or acting like it's perfectly fine for z4 to doxx people's personal information, also in a (failed) attempt to humiliate them as he did, but it's perma-bannable to quote-post a picture of Bodhy.

I think, pretty damn consistent.
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Let's just leave it at this :

He would need to make some seriious concessions to be even be considered to be unbanned.

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03-25-2024, 11:15 AM
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Grow up.






The point is left leaning posters are getting minimum 3 day bans and longer for much, much less. Some right wing posters have been banned but one I think was only banned for a few hours.. and I agree - these people shouldn't be banned for what they said/did (except doxxing and we all know someone here didn't get banned for that and I called it in the thread that got deleted that he wouldn't)

This guy though? And all the others who go nonstop scorched Earth on black people and Jews and posts like these? They are exactly who should get banned. But for some reason they don't and get a free pass. Completely inconsistent while going nuts on anyone on the left.
A ton of those anti-Jewish posters were banned.
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03-25-2024, 11:21 AM
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Oh, I'm quite certain I'm the adult in this conversation Patty.

Because in the 20 years that I've been here I lost count of the number of times that I've been banned.. There was even a three month perma-ban included in that once.

New alts created, or crying about it once I came back not even once.
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03-25-2024, 11:23 AM
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No, you're the baby here. Don't want to discuss the thread topic? Leave.
I am discussing it Patty.

And I'm telling you you're acting like a whiny estrogen filled bitch over it.
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03-25-2024, 11:32 AM
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I am discussing it Patty.

And I'm telling you you're acting like a whiny estrogen filled bitch over it.
And I'm telling you to grow up.

Wanna keep going?
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03-25-2024, 11:39 AM
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And I'm telling you to grow up.

Wanna keep going?
I don't mind.

Any time I can make your grooming life miserable is a good day.
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03-25-2024, 12:21 PM
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Not an opinion. You know why, I'm not going back and forth with you.
Funny coming from the guy that's had multiple bans from meltdowns
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Funny coming from the guy that's had multiple bans from meltdowns
I've been banned twice. Once for calling someone a moron.

Is there anything you people don't make up or outright lie about?
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I've been banned twice. Once for calling someone a moron.

Is there anything you people don't make up or outright lie about?
You can't get banned for calling someone a "moron", if you don't call people "morons".

Just saying.

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03-25-2024, 01:34 PM
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I've been banned twice. Once for calling someone a moron.

Is there anything you people don't make up or outright lie about?
There's that world class projection and lack of self awareness.

Alinsky would be proud.
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03-25-2024, 01:58 PM
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I've been banned twice. Once for calling someone a moron.

Is there anything you people don't make up or outright lie about?
Twice? Yeah, OK. You've been banned a lot more than that. Amazing how you want to call people liars when you'll lie about trivial matters such as a ban on a forum.

I can understand easier now why facts trigger you. Are you close to another meltdown that makes you say you're done with R&P and come back again?
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Twice? Yeah, OK. You've been banned a lot more than that. Amazing how you want to call people liars when you'll lie about trivial matters such as a ban on a forum.

I can understand easier now why facts trigger you. Are you close to another meltdown that makes you say you're done with R&P and come back again?
No. I've been banned twice. Keep making things up and proving my point.
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throwback when diabetic pat went around here lying about brett kavanaugh and kyle rittenhouse.


cannot wait for the helicopter rides
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throwback when diabetic pat went around here lying about brett kavanaugh and kyle rittenhouse.


cannot wait for the helicopter rides
More revised history aka lies.

And your Pinochet helicopter rides line is tired.
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lmao you went around here calling kavanaugh "rapey brett"


idc if its tiring.. you pissing your pants crying daily about life is tiring. which is why a helicopter ride is needed for you. the crying will cease.
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03-25-2024, 04:25 PM
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No. I've been banned twice. Keep making things up and proving my point.
I think people think that you've been banned when you took a break from the misc.

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I think people think that you've been banned when you took a break from the misc.

i recall one of his "breaks" being when killer cuomo had to step down
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03-25-2024, 04:36 PM
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lmao you went around here calling kavanaugh "rapey brett"


idc if its tiring.. you pissing your pants crying daily about life is tiring. which is why a helicopter ride is needed for you. the crying will cease.
Rapey Brett tried and failed to rape someone. So technically he's not a rapist..

And calling for the death of posters is a bannable offense.



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i recall one of his "breaks" being when killer cuomo had to step down
Dems held Cuomo responsible and forced his resignation - something Republicans wouldn't know about.

And I take voluntary breaks all the time. We've been through this.
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lmao this dude is a gaslighting little bitch.


who said anything about death? i just wanted you to get a nice look of nyc from a helicopter…over the hudson…. before the diabetes defeats you. would hate for that to happen.
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And I take voluntary breaks all the time. We've been through this.
Bitch please… you throw estrogen filled tantrums and swear you're "Done with this place!"

…Only to return a week later. Voluntary break. GTFO.
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