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10-01-2017, 02:08 PM
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Hugely concerned and frustrated with our lack of QB pressure, and also shocked they overturned that TD, not sure what they saw. O looks alright but we need TD's.
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10-01-2017, 02:11 PM
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All those high draft picks on the DL still can't rush this weak OL
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10-01-2017, 02:16 PM
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All those high draft picks on the DL still can't rush this weak OL
Problem is those early picks aren't big rushers. They're well rounded players who probably are better in run D. Thomas is being played in spots he's not comfortable in to let him learn so you get poor rush. Need to blitz more unfortunately for time being.
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10-01-2017, 02:19 PM
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Imagine what it could do with a legit QB and better OL?
I get a boner thinking about it
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10-01-2017, 02:22 PM
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I'm regretting everything I said about Watson. I'm still on that Rosen train.
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10-01-2017, 02:25 PM
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10-01-2017, 02:34 PM
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Hoyer is awful and I can't figure out why. Accuracy is supposed to be his strength.
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10-01-2017, 02:39 PM
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I don't know how banged up Hyde is but we need to give him the ball a bit more. Hope Goodwin is ok we need as much healthy guys out there as we can, already banged up. And last few drives Hoyer looking real bad, the pick our guy got knocked down so not fully blaming him but he's way off on a lot of throws today. At least the pass rush picked up somewhat. Need that to have a chance in second half. Wish Bow grabbed that pick we need as many big plays as we can. Also I know the pressure is lacking but I'm a bit frustrated with Rashard, he's getting beat more often than I'd like to see.
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10-01-2017, 03:02 PM
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Dontae Johnson is horrible.
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10-01-2017, 03:18 PM
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Bit of a dick tease with CJ getting in the game for a handoff lol. Hoyer's injury looked a lot worse.
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10-01-2017, 03:19 PM
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My god so many drops
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10-01-2017, 03:59 PM
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We gave this game away with our penalties and Hoyer sucking ass
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10-01-2017, 04:03 PM
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10-01-2017, 04:15 PM
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Id be shocked if hoyer completes another pass.
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10-01-2017, 04:46 PM
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10-01-2017, 04:46 PM
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10-01-2017, 04:48 PM
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this team is so pathetic. srsly. not that i expected them to be great, but its so frustrating to watch your team beat itself week in and week out. those PI calls are infuriating too, but no excuses, this team is just too undisciplined.
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10-01-2017, 05:05 PM
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Don't even care we lost. Robinson is terribly disappointing. This dude looked way better last year not sure why the fuk he's playing so poorly. Inconsistent pass rush doesn't help but last year he was always in pretty good coverage regardless and this season he's toast.

Arizona should've had the game. Refs gave us some gifts. Hoyer sucked balls. I still like the growth of this team. Some young guys to build on and a better QB makes this offense click. Plays were there to be made. Hoyer just couldn't make them.
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10-01-2017, 05:11 PM
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All in on Rosen, not too excited with all of Darnolds int's, especially seeing as we have no one to throw the ball to besides Garcon.
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10-01-2017, 05:15 PM
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All in on Rosen, not too excited with all of Darnolds int's, especially seeing as we have no one to throw the ball to besides Garcon.
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10-01-2017, 05:24 PM
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All in on Rosen, not too excited with all of Darnolds int's, especially seeing as we have no one to throw the ball to besides Garcon.
The way Darnold has been playing I'd be shocked to see him declare unless he turns it around.
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10-01-2017, 06:42 PM
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Would rather buy Cousins and use the high pick somewhere else
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10-01-2017, 06:57 PM
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Would rather buy Cousins and use the high pick somewhere else
He'll be 30 before the season starts next year, don't wanna spend 100+ mill on a guy who can't win without weapons. What would be the point?
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10-01-2017, 09:00 PM
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Pissed that we gave another game away. We make way too many self inflicted mistakes not only plays left off the field but penalties wise as well. I expect that with our youth but at the same time part of that is coaching. I get that coaching is youthful right now too but cmon in can't keep happening week in and week out.

Finally started to get some pressure today, but tbh AZ OL not great and we still got shredded, most noticeably Rashard. Agree but he is not performing up to his hype and even last seasons performance.

As far as QB goes I say we let Beathard play. Hoyer isn't terrible (close tho), but he's far from great and makes at least a few really bad passes a game. That or doesn't throw it away fast enough plenty of other times. Might as well see how CJ does.

With all the negatives to harp on it's even more frustrating cause including aaallllllll of those negatives we have still been within one possession, basically would have could have should have won our last three games, all against division opponents. 0-4 is frustrating as hell but this is like an even worse 0-4 than had we just got our asses handed to us each game. Not happy as a fan, as much as there is progress being made from a way outside perspective we are losing close, hard fought games making a lot plays contributing to our own demise.
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10-01-2017, 11:18 PM
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Would lol if LA and NorCal essentially traded QBs
Funny how everyone here had already given up on Goff. What a difference a new coach makes.
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10-01-2017, 11:22 PM
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Funny how everyone here had already given up on Goff. What a difference a new coach makes.
people were using Dak as a bench mark and not factoring in the millions of advantages Dak had around him.
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10-01-2017, 11:29 PM
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I'm not great at evaluating oline play but Kilgore seems like he has been absolutely horrible for awhile. I'm amazed he still has a job. He has got to be one of the lowest rated olinemen in the NFL
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10-02-2017, 12:39 AM
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I'm not great at evaluating oline play but Kilgore seems like he has been absolutely horrible for awhile. I'm amazed he still has a job. He has got to be one of the lowest rated olinemen in the NFL
the entire interior of the line has to be one of the worst in the league
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10-02-2017, 05:59 AM
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He'll be 30 before the season starts next year, don't wanna spend 100+ mill on a guy who can't win without weapons. What would be the point?
The only advantage with going with someone like Cousins is familiarity with the scheme and NFL experience.

It also allows you to use those early draft picks to build up the team around him. Essentially it lets you be competitive quicker.

In theory if say we did get a top 2 pick or even #1 overall and there are 2 elite QB prospects available and we signed Cousins and feel ok about Beathard being the backup then we could get a bounty of draft picks to trade down.

Let's say a team like the Bills or Browns want to move up(both of them have 2 1st round picks) those would be in play and other picks. Trade down address CB, pure pass rusher, interior OL and WR positions and we're looking like a contender.

I still don't think we're bad enough to get #1 overall though. Cleveland is still surprisingly bad. It's like they're playing Kizer on purpose to tank again.
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10-02-2017, 06:09 AM
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Pissed that we gave another game away. We make way too many self inflicted mistakes not only plays left off the field but penalties wise as well. I expect that with our youth but at the same time part of that is coaching. I get that coaching is youthful right now too but cmon in can't keep happening week in and week out.

Finally started to get some pressure today, but tbh AZ OL not great and we still got shredded, most noticeably Rashard. Agree but he is not performing up to his hype and even last seasons performance.

As far as QB goes I say we let Beathard play. Hoyer isn't terrible (close tho), but he's far from great and makes at least a few really bad passes a game. That or doesn't throw it away fast enough plenty of other times. Might as well see how CJ does.

With all the negatives to harp on it's even more frustrating cause including aaallllllll of those negatives we have still been within one possession, basically would have could have should have won our last three games, all against division opponents. 0-4 is frustrating as hell but this is like an even worse 0-4 than had we just got our asses handed to us each game. Not happy as a fan, as much as there is progress being made from a way outside perspective we are losing close, hard fought games making a lot plays contributing to our own demise.
I gotta disagree with this.

I know you and I disagree regarding losing for draft picks and that's cool, I respect your way of thinking even if I disagree with it.

Not sure what you were expecting for this season but I went in with very low expectations due to all the roster turnover, youth on the roster and scheme changes on both sides of the ball. I was thinking 4-6 wins this year. I thought we'd get our first one against Arizona and we were close, I think we get #1 against the Colts without Luck starting.

However I'd much rather see us lose close games like this than get our asses handed to me. This tells me a swing here or there and we're winning these games with better talent/players more comfortable with their assignments. When you're getting blown out it shows you're a lot further away and there is still a ton more changes left to make.

All things considered a couple of bounces here and there and refs not being asshats and we're looking at a 3-1 team right now.

Honestly that was my hope for this season. I didn't expect much in terms of wins but I wanted us to at least compete and be in the games. If we can keep doing it EVEN if we went 0-16 as much as that would suck(won't happen) if we were within a possession in each game I'd say this season was a big step in the right direction.

Looking at our schedule we have some winnable games, especially as the team gets more comfortable with the scheme. I do think it's funny that the Redskins, Cowboys and Cardinals come off bye weeks before playing us. Nice of the NFL to help us out. I'd say those games were winnable but never good when you're playing teams coming off a bye after you had games the week prior.
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