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12-13-2020, 08:44 AM
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I'm enjoying it immensely despite my criticisms lol …. The best game I've played all year lol.
Also in this boat. Best game since GoW 2018 id say. Though I still have many hours left to play. Having a lot of fun. Not to trigger people who are hating on it, just saying I’m having fun. (Pc, obv)

I wasn’t paying as much attention to this kinda thing in 2015, but apparently the Witcher 3 had a similar launch? Is this true? I played on regular Xbox at the time and loved it. But since then I’ve played it on a Pro, one X and a 2080ti for a couple hundred hours total. So not sure if my original memories have just been replaced by now or what.
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12-13-2020, 09:03 AM
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lost it @ the end

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12-13-2020, 09:07 AM
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Phew, was expecting to come in here and find everyone was having a great time - glad to know im not the only one struggling to enjoy/even play the game due to issues.
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12-13-2020, 09:08 AM
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Yeah over-hype can never be satisfied by the end product, we know nothing about GTA 6 but there's still tons of hype building, imagine if rockstar did this kind of 5+ year long tease campaign


I didn't pay any attention to the cyberpunk stuff until the past few months so I wasn't that hyped coming in, I'm enjoying the game overall. The AI is definitely lacking, I wonder if that's a very cost-intensive process and cdpr just didn't have the monetary clout of a Rockstar type dev to produce something good on this kind of massive open world scale.


More like mismanagement , aiming too high, releasing too many hype videos and gameplay videos without a clear vision.



CDPR is one of the most recognized and celebrated "assets" in Poland, with them being grants/subsidies by the Poland government and even fkkn Obama being given a copy of the Witcher 2 by the Polish President. Basically they are an extremely talented studio but got waaaay too far ahead of themselves in trying to create an open world like GTA and marketing a world like GTA.

They came at the king and got absolutely mogged.


Nobody beats Rockstar when it comes to creating "living, breathing" open worlds. Rockstar only releases videos/info about their next gen about max 2 years out of from release, more than enough time for them to have most of their in-game systems working and established before putting it in QA and then just fine tuning it for release.

CDPR meanwhile blew their entire load in 2013 or 2015, brb releasing a teaser for this game in 2013 and then talking about how amazing the game was gonna be … As the years progressed, they just kept hyping it even more with their marketing material, fooling everyone and outright lying about the game and how it was gonna perform. They also ended up cutting a ton of stuff and had to scale down a ton of gameplay features which they promised, and finally had to force multiple delays even after the game went gold.


In essence, CDPR is a studio boomiing with talent, but bigly mismanaged and at the very worst, you can call them absolute hacks for releasing a game that took 8 years to make in such a horrible state especially for console gamers despite the ceo saying "peforms very well on current gen consoles".



Basically, Larian Studios are the absolute goats in the gaming industry, probably followed by Arkane, Naughty Dog, Rockstar, Santa Monica and perhaps even Insomniac.
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12-13-2020, 09:11 AM
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Yeah, I think I’ll wait for the next gen version.

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12-13-2020, 09:14 AM
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Omg keep the memes coming




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12-13-2020, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By iifymbro
this definitely gets me hyped af for GTA 6, RDR2 graphics + multiple dev years of progress beyond that, hnnng

this kinda dev can't compete with rockstar, too much money and global talent


The good news is that cdpr are gunna rake in huge money from this game and I'd imagine their main focus for the next couple years will be cyberpunk repair/expansion.
Has nothing to do with money and talent. CDPR hasn't been in the game nowhere near long enough to develop perfect open world games. How long has Rockstar been doing this? And FYI GTA has never felt lively at all. The npcs were….just there. Red Dead Redemption 2 is what broke the ground. It was truly innovative and is the 1st and only open world game where **** really feels alive, like you feel bad fuking with the npc

I was positive CDPR would beat out Rockstar in open world games, but I was wrong. Rockstar is still king. No other open world game feels more lively than Red Dead Redemption 2 and it's all because of the NPC. CDPR has the talent, the just didn't have the experience
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12-13-2020, 09:26 AM
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Omg keep the memes coming





jfc …. Seen all the memes, but this was the only that has had me howling irl.
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12-13-2020, 09:28 AM
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Cyberpunk reddit is a gold mine



a FUKIN loading screen to a bug LMAO

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12-13-2020, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
More like mismanagement , aiming too high, releasing too many hype videos and gameplay videos without a clear vision.



CDPR is one of the most recognized and celebrated "assets" in Poland, with them being grants/subsidies by the Poland government and even fkkn Obama being given a copy of the Witcher 2 by the Polish President. Basically they are an extremely talented studio but got waaaay too far ahead of themselves in trying to create an open world like GTA and marketing a world like GTA.

They came at the king and got absolutely mogged.


Nobody beats Rockstar when it comes to creating "living, breathing" open worlds. Rockstar only releases videos/info about their next gen about max 2 years out of from release, more than enough time for them to have most of their in-game systems working and established before putting it in QA and then just fine tuning it for release.

CDPR meanwhile blew their entire load in 2013 or 2015, brb releasing a teaser for this game in 2013 and then talking about how amazing the game was gonna be … As the years progressed, they just kept hyping it even more with their marketing material, fooling everyone and outright lying about the game and how it was gonna perform. They also ended up cutting a ton of stuff and had to scale down a ton of gameplay features which they promised, and finally had to force multiple delays even after the game went gold.


In essence, CDPR is a studio boomiing with talent, but bigly mismanaged and at the very worst, you can call them absolute hacks for releasing a game that took 8 years to make in such a horrible state especially for console gamers despite the ceo saying "peforms very well on current gen consoles".



Basically, Larian Studios are the absolute goats in the gaming industry, probably followed by Arkane, Naughty Dog, Rockstar, Santa Monica and perhaps even Insomniac.
GTA has never been living and breathing. Not even GTA 5 felt lively, not sure why this continues to be brought up. The npcs are in the background just like the npcs in Cyberpunk.

Red Dead Redemption 2 is what was ground breaking.
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12-13-2020, 09:32 AM
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I definitely do get GTA vibes from this game now that I’m levelling up and getting more access to chit. Right now I’m spending a lot of time driving around taking care of gigs and side missions, feels very much like GTA but with a metric tonne more depth

Snagged a rocket arm mod last night, next I want to grab one of the leg upgrades for double jumping / super jump
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12-13-2020, 09:34 AM
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This one made me lol

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12-13-2020, 09:48 AM
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holy chit LOL

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This one made me lol

hilarious and sad at the same time , cdpr PR release is going to pull a blizzard. Do YoU gUyS nOt HaVe PcS?
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12-13-2020, 09:53 AM
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Since there's so many comparisons to Rockstar's GTA and RDR, sounds like people ITT just wanted a sandbox game instead of a mission driven one. Basically, you wanted future GTA but you got future Witcher 3.

For example, seeing a lot of criticism about the AI. Much of it is valid no doubt about it. They are braindead, lacking reactivity, and downright boring when doing anything sandbox related. But go look at the AI in Witcher 3 and it's exactly the same thing.

I think the difference is that it worked in Witcher 3, for both narrative and gameplay reasons, but it doesn't really work that well in Night City. In W3, you're just out hunting monsters in the countryside most of the game so you don't see the braindeadness of the AI. CP2077, you're driving past AI NPCs and interacting with them practically 24/7 so you see how stupid they are. The result is that it breaks the immersion of the city. It was a risk and it didn't pay off imo.

I do think there were a lot of things cut from this game. The lifestyle stories at the beginning of the game being the obvious one. I feel like each lifestyle had its own unique story, but for whatever reason, maybe lack of resources or time idk, they were removed. That montage at the beginning of the game felt so out of place. My guess is that those were cut missions from the early stories.

I still am really enjoying this game. Played it basically all weekend. You can really see the love they put into the game whenever you do one of the story missions and that's definitely where this game shines. Side missions are hit or miss for me. Some of them are basically their own stories and work really well. Others are just go hear and blast a gangbanger, kind of boring, but I'm just doing them for the eddies anyway.

Best game in the world? Nah. Still really damn good and I'm loving it.
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12-13-2020, 09:54 AM
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GTA has never been living and breathing. Not even GTA 5 felt lively, not sure why this continues to be brought up. The npcs are in the background just like the npcs in Cyberpunk.

Red Dead Redemption 2 is what was ground breaking.



GTA V was incredible considering the stuff that were doing on old ass PS3/360 cpu's and gpus. Remember this was a ps3/360 gen game …. before only just being remastered for ps4/xbone



You could follow NPC's around and if you were Franklin, they'd call the cops on you.

If you tried to jack a car, they'd sometimes come out and fight you or chase you or call the cops, a mixture of all 3 states or it was random.

Cops would chase you properly

Ambulances, cops, fire trucks, depending on the situation would all come in or either of them

They'd comment on what you were wearing or what you were driving

npc's would get into fights with each other, with the cops or with whoever if they pissed each other off.








Yes, RDR 2 took it even furthe, but the point is, Rockstar have been the masters of creating AI systems within an open world that's both reactive to you and towards each other.
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12-13-2020, 09:54 AM
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I agree man. I heard lots of positive things about the side quests so I've been smashing them out, but it just seems like the same mission on repeat. Run into building guns blazing or stealthy, collect item or kill guy, receive text message. The end.

Again, I'm enjoying the main story, but everything else has fallen flat.
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12-13-2020, 09:57 AM
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Yeah, I think I’ll wait for the next gen version.

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12-13-2020, 10:07 AM
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Some more lols












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12-13-2020, 10:14 AM
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Yeah, I think I’ll wait for the next gen version.


LMFAO


I wouldn't wanna play this game with it looking like that either, didn't realize it was this bad holy fuk console peasants need to just lay down and rot until the next gen optimized version comes out. Was thinking the guy looked badass in that car scene at the time, but didn't realize how spoiled I've been with a PC.




1440p ultrawide w/ 2080ti raytracing, lawddd and not even a cutscene or anything, just a normal convo

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12-13-2020, 10:19 AM
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^^yea consolecells gonna have to throw in the towel on this one. Poor bastards. CDPR did them dirty


Also see a lot of mention of RDR2. You all think I should give that another go? Put like 25 hours in but burned out. Crazy detailed world but didn’t find the gameplay very fun (relatively) though I didn’t have a pc at the time.
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12-13-2020, 10:20 AM
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12-13-2020, 10:20 AM
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^^yea consolecells gonna have to throw in the towel on this one. Poor bastards. CDPR did them dirty
It's usually us pc masterrace who get cucked by an unplayable game port. Consolecels finally know what it feels like.
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12-13-2020, 10:21 AM
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Yeah, I think I’ll wait for the next gen version.

what's left and right?

is this PC vs PS4 or …?
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12-13-2020, 10:28 AM
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what's left and right?

is this PC vs PS4 or …?
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12-13-2020, 10:31 AM
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Yes
aw fuk bye

I was maybe thinking left was from a trailer or something

fuuuuuark…

how big are the chances next-gen version is gonna look even remotely similar when they finish it you reckon?

ordered a Series X, if a PC-brah can compare this to a PC rig what's the best-case scenario?
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12-13-2020, 10:33 AM
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To the handful that actually play this game, what builds did you go with?
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12-13-2020, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Elvis.Costello
^^yea consolecells gonna have to throw in the towel on this one. Poor bastards. CDPR did them dirty


Also see a lot of mention of RDR2. You all think I should give that another go? Put like 25 hours in but burned out. Crazy detailed world but didn’t find the gameplay very fun (relatively) though I didn’t have a pc at the time.

PC has had to deal with shietty ports and capped off potential in games for so many years because of those shiet-tier specc'd consoles, so fukk 'em. And they seem to happily pay for a $60 rebadged sports game year after year so why not fleece them out of some $$ with a shietty PC port (ayy lmao).


Yeah I'll probably revisit RDR2 after this, wonder if there's been a bunch of mods by now that dial up the graphics to 11
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12-13-2020, 10:40 AM
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This one made me lol

lol that is pretty funny

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Even despite the ps4 performance, the overall storytelling/narrative/character development was far ahead of what cyberpunk is trying to achieve. It's probably far more of a complete game, in the sense while it definitely had to scale back, the effects of it was far less visible and obvious than with whatever cyberpunk is trying to do.
not really. if u played the witcher 2. the main story of the witcher 3 was a massive disappointment in comparison. i was so disappointed in the witcher 3. they did roche, shani, and triss bull**** where in the previous games they had so much more character. triss' character was butchered in the witcher 3 just as much as it was butchered in the tv series lol.

where they killed it in the witcher 3 was the sidequests.

even the expansion stories were way better than the main story of the witcher 3. blood and wine made the vanilla main story look so bad.

like shani had one ****in shortass scene in the vanilla game lol god damn it. and triss was a sexy badass sorceress in the witcher 2, then she became a whiny drama queen in the witcher 3. complete butchering of her character. and roche… they barely used roche… all that character development in the witcher 2 and barely anything with roche in the witcher 3.

it felt like the main story was like a fan fiction thing. idk. as someone who played the witcher 1 and 2 i was disappointed in the witcher 3's story. was like wot the **** they did to my triss and where is shani bruh roche where are u pal.

witcher 2 was way better in terms of story. it was solid.



so far cyberpunk's main story is better than the witcher 3's main story.
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12-13-2020, 11:12 AM
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not mine, but here's a maxxed out rtx ray tracing screenshot with good lighting

open in a new window/tab and zoom in, pretty crazy…. the next 10-15 years of games are gunna be some amazing shiet now that consoles are dipping into ray tracing.

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