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post 10000135210 04-22-2026, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Bonobo
So none.

As far Soleimani, he fucked around and found out. As soon as he went into Iraq, he was fair game.


And in 1812 England commandeered our private shipping vessels because they were trading with Fance during a time of war. Everybody backstabs, everybody else when its useful to them
Many lawmakers declared Soleimani "not an immediate threat". It's like arguing that because the pedo who's raped kids in the past and is talking to your kids, but he's not actively trying to get your kid into his van so he's not an immediate threat. Fuk that, you're going to go fuk his chit up aren't you?

UK at the time was like any ex, they couldn't accept it was over and got mad that we were talking to someone else.
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Originally Posted By Jaydubs
So you are one of those that is arguing that Iran is an innocent nation not responsible for killing thousands of Americans?
This was an unprovoked attack?
Are you on the side of the IRGC?
Are you one of those that says it's all just propaganda, Iran is a peaceful nation just trying to better itself.

Anyways, Iran had a lot of tough talk and Europe is trying to leverage.

You know how to tell who your real friends are? It's not when things are going good for you. It's when you are in a tough spot, looks like you're on the bad end of things, and you see who's there for you. Europe showed they are only there if they benefit.
"Wah wah wah the US is the real victim here guys!"

Why do think no prior US regime attacked Iran, is it because the MIC was tired of shedding blood? No, it's because Iran has always had the option to choke out the world's oil supplies, everyone knew it and every POTUS had it explained to them, in Trump's case probably with fucking crayons because he's an aggressively ignorant maniac.

So leave aside any narrative of how the poor oppressed US, helpless in the face of relentless Iranian aggression, decided to assist the heroic Persians by bombing bridges and fragmenting schoolchildren. Let's look at this idiotic decision to smash the world economy.

1. You cunts fucked it unilaterally, zero consulation with "your real friends", after a year or so of the US administration openly mocking European militaries and deriding European soldiers who died for American wars. You broke it, you fix it.

2. Europe has no way to fix the problem entirely caused by the US. If adding more bombs would work, well the US is the world champion bomb deliverer, there is literally no additional military presence that would resolve this.

3. NATO is a defensive alliance and under the NATO regime, the US has never sent soldiers or warships to aid its European allies in their wars, because that's not what the defensive agreement does. When the Argentinians attacked British soil and seized British territory, how many carrier fleets did the US park next to Argentina, how US combat many divisions landed in the Falklands to "help their real friends"? Zero. Now that's fine, because that's what NATO is, but you don't get to cry about "Europe isn't helping!" when that doesn't meet either the terms, or the established actions under a treaty that you wrote, just because you elected a reckless warmonger. If you want to fight with Europe at your side, which they have done many times post-WW2, then you have to do what Bush did. Use the vast American soft power to cajole, bribe and bully your allies behind closed doors, then go in mob-handed. But Trump utterly rejected that approach, so now it's off the table.

I don't know if you realise this, but American soft power is evaporating like smoke under the Trump regime. Leaders in Europe and the Anglosphere have always kowtowed to the US, because it's beneficial to both sides. That's the whole post-WW2 order: the US takes care of the military side and in exchange, they get military bases and outposts all over the world, everyone buys their goods and services (especially weapons) and they get enormous moral support for any shady actions taken. That's all going away. Leaders can't rely on the US and voters will hold them to account, because they're so outraged by the USA's behaviour. That process will only accelerate as the world economy tanks due to this reckless, pointless war.
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Iran breaks US blockade.


Trump’s blockade COLLAPSES as Iranian 'ghost ships' bypass US Navy during shaky ceasefire amid uneasy oil prices
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15755229/Trumps-blockade-COLLAPSES-Iranian-ghost-ships-bypass-US-Navy-shaky-ceasefire-amid-uneasy-oil-prices.html

Guess Trump is going to have to try and find another way to sanction Irans economy.

The Trump shills on all the right leaning websites have been out in force writing articles about how Trump's blockade is going to crash Iran's economy, and the US has nothing to worry about, since they can somehow magically offset the constraint on oil supplies with extra domestic production.

All he's essentially doing is putting an embargo on America, instead of conceding loss lol.


Shit doesn't make any sense.


Just more 13D chess.
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post 10000135419 04-22-2026, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted By mrbeer
"Wah wah wah the US is the real victim here guys!"

Why do think no prior US regime attacked Iran, is it because the MIC was tired of shedding blood? No, it's because Iran has always had the option to choke out the world's oil supplies, everyone knew it and every POTUS had it explained to them, in Trump's case probably with fucking crayons because he's an aggressively ignorant maniac.

So leave aside any narrative of how the poor oppressed US, helpless in the face of relentless Iranian aggression, decided to assist the heroic Persians by bombing bridges and fragmenting schoolchildren. Let's look at this idiotic decision to smash the world economy.

1. You cunts fucked it unilaterally, zero consulation with "your real friends", after a year or so of the US administration openly mocking European militaries and deriding European soldiers who died for American wars. You broke it, you fix it.

2. Europe has no way to fix the problem entirely caused by the US. If adding more bombs would work, well the US is the world champion bomb deliverer, there is literally no additional military presence that would resolve this.

3. NATO is a defensive alliance and under the NATO regime, the US has never sent soldiers or warships to aid its European allies in their wars, because that's not what the defensive agreement does. When the Argentinians attacked British soil and seized British territory, how many carrier fleets did the US park next to Argentina, how US combat many divisions landed in the Falklands to "help their real friends"? Zero. Now that's fine, because that's what NATO is, but you don't get to cry about "Europe isn't helping!" when that doesn't meet either the terms, or the established actions under a treaty that you wrote, just because you elected a reckless warmonger. If you want to fight with Europe at your side, which they have done many times post-WW2, then you have to do what Bush did. Use the vast American soft power to cajole, bribe and bully your allies behind closed doors, then go in mob-handed. But Trump utterly rejected that approach, so now it's off the table.

I don't know if you realise this, but American soft power is evaporating like smoke under the Trump regime. Leaders in Europe and the Anglosphere have always kowtowed to the US, because it's beneficial to both sides. That's the whole post-WW2 order: the US takes care of the military side and in exchange, they get military bases and outposts all over the world, everyone buys their goods and services (especially weapons) and they get enormous moral support for any shady actions taken. That's all going away. Leaders can't rely on the US and voters will hold them to account, because they're so outraged by the USA's behaviour. That process will only accelerate as the world economy tanks due to this reckless, pointless war.
Who said anything about the US being oppressed and a victim outside of you?

European militaries are weak. I don't know what you think, but you don't have one. You rely on US to defend you so you can have free healthcare and give all the assitance to refugees from 3rd world countries. All Trump did was request they honor their end of the bargain.

God damn if AI isn't free:

The United States provided critical, "behind-the-scenes" military, intelligence, and logistical support to the United Kingdom during the 1982 Falklands War, despite initially claiming neutrality. While trying to mediate early on, the Reagan administration ultimately backed the UK with advanced weapons (like Sidewinder missiles), satellite intelligence, and fuel, which were crucial to the British victory. Sandboxx +3Key Aspects of U.S. Involvement:Diplomatic Strategy: Initially, the U.S. attempted to mediate. However, after diplomacy failed, the U.S. declared support for the UK, blamed Argentina for the conflict's escalation, and imposed economic sanctions on Argentina.Military Aid: The U.S. supplied the UK with approximately 100 AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles, 200 torpedoes, anti-submarine warfare sonobuoys, and Shillelagh missiles.Logistical Support: The U.S. provided substantial aviation fuel, mortar shells, and airfield matting to the British task force, notably allowing the use of a U.S. Air Force base on Ascension Island.Intelligence Sharing: The U.S. utilized its intelligence capabilities, including satellites (like VORTEX) and surveillance planes, to provide real-time data on Argentine forces' positions and equipment.Contingency Planning: The U.S. Navy was prepared to loan an aircraft carrier (USS Iwo Jima or another vessel) to the Royal Navy had they lost one of their own during the fighting.
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post 10000135640 04-22-2026, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydubs
Who said anything about the US being oppressed and a victim outside of you?

European militaries are weak. I don't know what you think, but you don't have one. You rely on US to defend you so you can have free healthcare and give all the assitance to refugees from 3rd world countries. All Trump did was request they honor their end of the bargain.

God damn if AI isn't free:

The United States provided critical, "behind-the-scenes" military, intelligence, and logistical support to the United Kingdom during the 1982 Falklands War, despite initially claiming neutrality. While trying to mediate early on, the Reagan administration ultimately backed the UK with advanced weapons (like Sidewinder missiles), satellite intelligence, and fuel, which were crucial to the British victory. Sandboxx +3Key Aspects of U.S. Involvement:Diplomatic Strategy: Initially, the U.S. attempted to mediate. However, after diplomacy failed, the U.S. declared support for the UK, blamed Argentina for the conflict's escalation, and imposed economic sanctions on Argentina.Military Aid: The U.S. supplied the UK with approximately 100 AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles, 200 torpedoes, anti-submarine warfare sonobuoys, and Shillelagh missiles.Logistical Support: The U.S. provided substantial aviation fuel, mortar shells, and airfield matting to the British task force, notably allowing the use of a U.S. Air Force base on Ascension Island.Intelligence Sharing: The U.S. utilized its intelligence capabilities, including satellites (like VORTEX) and surveillance planes, to provide real-time data on Argentine forces' positions and equipment.Contingency Planning: The U.S. Navy was prepared to loan an aircraft carrier (USS Iwo Jima or another vessel) to the Royal Navy had they lost one of their own during the fighting.
Cool and the US gets to use its bases in European sovereign territory in order to launch air attacks into Iran and continues to engage in joint intelligence sharing operations, glad that we're all partners in this war since being a partner doesn't require sending warships and soldiers to help out. Pats on the back all around chaps.

It's very difficult for a US admin to behave in such a manner as to remove European appetite to aid their military adventurism, however Trump has managed it. This admin should pick a lane, either:

1. European "friends" and "allies" are weak, militarily useless, have never shed blood for US wars, do not get consulted or informed before US action and are not required, or
2. The US wants them to help.

Either you want to go it alone or you don't. Trump wants it both ways, but he can't have it.

Here's another bitter pill to swallow: this admin doesn't actually want European support. If they wanted it, they would have clear war objectives, a path to achieve it and they'd be talking to leaders to achieve it. But this admin does not have the competence to run a coalition war. Let this sink in: Dubya is a vastly superior warleader and strategist compared to Trump.

What Trump wants is to bitch and moan and foist his catastrophic mistake onto other people and use this clusterfuck as an excuse to tiptoe away from NATO.

America First right? Cool, but don't cry about Europe not helping.
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"We caught a ship yesterday that had some things on it, which wasn’t very nice. A gift from China perhaps, I don’t know, but I was a little surprised," Trump said during an interview with CNBC.US President Donald Trump said on Tuesday during an interview with CNBC that the US found "a gift from China" in one of the ships seized from the Iranian regime that was trying to cross the Strait of Hormuz towards Iran, amid the American blockade of Iranian ports.


"We caught a ship yesterday that had some things on it, which wasn’t very nice. A gift from China perhaps, I don’t know, but I was a little surprised," Trump said during his interview with CNBC.According to an additional Bloomberg report, the White House did not respond to requests for comment on Trump's interview


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-surprised-chinese-gift-135636922.html
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Trump fires Epstein affilate, Secretary of the Navy, because Trump is getting his ass handed to him LMAO


Navy Secretary John Phelan Abruptly Departs Trump Admin With No Explanation, "Effective Immediately"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/navy-secretary-john-phelan-suddenly-departs-trump-admin-no-explanation-effective



Drumpffffff
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post 10000136131 04-23-2026, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Trump fires Epstein affilate, Secretary of the Navy, because Trump is getting his ass handed to him LMAO


Navy Secretary John Phelan Abruptly Departs Trump Admin With No Explanation, "Effective Immediately"
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/navy-secretary-john-phelan-suddenly-departs-trump-admin-no-explanation-effective



Drumpffffff
I wonder if he was given an order to do something and refused.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
I wonder if he was given an order to do something and refused.
Rumour is if they talk direct to Trump, Hegseth fires them. Could be that, could be that he refused an illegal order, could be that Hegseth was unusually salty and hungover that day. My guess is he's simply taking inspiration from his senile boss and firing the guard-rails. This would be news under any other administration but it's currently completely normal to just wordlessly fire top military brass during a war with these clowns.
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Trump canceling envoys to Pakistan to facilitate peace talks.


Art of the Deal fails yet again and Doozy Donnie can barely even stay awake during meetings nowadays.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/iran-caused-extensive-damage-us-military-bases-publicly-known-rcna331853
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Originally Posted By PhilNine
Trump canceling envoys to Pakistan to facilitate peace talks.


Art of the Deal fails yet again and Doozy Donnie can barely even stay awake during meetings nowadays.
The iranians refuse to negotiate with two zionist fuck faces, Kushner and Witkoff. Cant blame then.
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Originally Posted By Bonobo
The iranians refuse to negotiate with two zionist fuck faces, Kushner and Witkoff. Cant blame then.
At the end of the day, Hormuz is going to be plugged up for a longgggg time.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel

As myn UK relatives would say - it's time for Trump to be sent to the knacker's yard. Or at least put him out to pasture.
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter2
As myn UK relatives would say - it's time for Trump to be sent to the knacker's yard. Or at least put him out to pasture.
Hegseth and Trump with the JFK special would solve a lot of America’s problems.
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Please note: "sent to the knacker's yard" is my euphimism for removed from position rather then me wishing any harm on the President.
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter2
As myn UK relatives would say - it's time for Trump to be sent to the knacker's yard. Or at least put him out to pasture.
The rights only hope to salvage any sort of relevance in the next 10 years is to replace trump asap
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Originally Posted By PhilNine
Hegseth and Trump with the JFK special would solve a lot of America’s problems.
I've seen you post it before and I've ignored it but you need to quit that shit
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Everytime he opens his mouth he steps on his dick.
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Originally Posted By Bonobo
Everytime he opens his mouth he steps on his dick.
hes such an incompetent ****** He makes Lloyd Austin look credible
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And yes this is real Trump posted this

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Originally Posted By havoc00
And yes this is real Trump posted this


Jfc.....
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Making his first appearance before Congress since the Trump administration went to war in Iran, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth faced withering questioning from skeptical Democrats Wednesday over a costly conflict being waged without congressional approval.


The war has cost $25 billion so far, according to Pentagon numbers presented to the House Armed Services Committee during the contentious hearing that was ostensibly focused on the administration’s 2027 military budget proposal, which would boost defense spending to a historic $1.5 trillion.
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Originally Posted By havoc00
Making his first appearance before Congress since the Trump administration went to war in Iran, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth faced withering questioning from skeptical Democrats Wednesday over a costly conflict being waged without congressional approval.


The war has cost $25 billion so far, according to Pentagon numbers presented to the House Armed Services Committee during the contentious hearing that was ostensibly focused on the administration’s 2027 military budget proposal, which would boost defense spending to a historic $1.5 trillion.
On the way home from work I saw $4.99 a gallon gas, and I don't even live in a real high COL city...
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That $25 billion claim is probably not even close to accurate either.


Originally Posted By BasedBagel

A war built on ambitions. LMAO. This guy acts macho because his T levels are non-existent.
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Originally Posted By havoc00
And yes this is real Trump posted this


This guy can only cry wolf so many times. It's literally a joke now that he keeps making threats and then TACOing.

It's why the entire world laughs now when he makes any type of threat.
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