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05-21-2026, 01:57 PM
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Hopefully rand realizes that just like the woke left, nothing is ever enough for the woke right. Trying to appease them won't accomplish anything.
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
05-21-2026, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Are you against BR citizenship??
Hopefully rand realizes that just like the woke left, nothing is ever enough for the woke right. Trying to appease them won't accomplish anything.
If so, then why the rage at Paul?
05-21-2026, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
I'm not addressing the issue, I'm addressing Rand's motivation for flipping on this issue. Assuming he actually did - I'm going to trust opie's research despite his history of being retarded.
Are you against BR citizenship??
If so, then why the rage at Paul?
If so, then why the rage at Paul?
Edit: Dang, grok says opie is a retard on this too
2011 (early in Senate tenure): Paul co-sponsored the Birthright Citizenship Act and a resolution (with Sen. David Vitter and others) to clarify that children born to illegal aliens do not automatically gain citizenship. The proposal limited automatic citizenship to cases where at least one parent is a U.S. citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an active-duty member of the Armed Forces.
It's pretty clear that amnesty loving repuclians are preparing to Massie Rand for wanting citizenship protections. Very sad
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
05-21-2026, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
That's a pretty reasonable clarification IMO. But 15 years since he offered it? Must not be a popular issue in congress.
2011 (early in Senate tenure): Paul co-sponsored the Birthright Citizenship Act and a resolution (with Sen. David Vitter and others) to clarify that children born to illegal aliens do not automatically gain citizenship. The proposal limited automatic citizenship to cases where at least one parent is a U.S. citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an active-duty member of the Armed Forces.
05-21-2026, 03:16 PM
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laura loomer called for paul to be replaced, its over for him
jews never lose
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05-21-2026, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Resolutions like this are pushed knowing they have no chance to pass(Obama was president and had control of the senate) in order to run on come election time, plus, its a way for Paul and other (R) to game the system in order to get better grades on their immigration score cards.
That's a pretty reasonable clarification IMO. But 15 years since he offered it? Must not be a popular issue in congress.
Like you said, it's been 15 years.
05-21-2026, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Yes
I'm not addressing the issue, I'm addressing Rand's motivation for flipping on this issue. Assuming he actually did - I'm going to trust opie's research despite his history of being retarded.
Edit: Dang, grok says opie is a retard on this too
2011 (early in Senate tenure): Paul co-sponsored the Birthright Citizenship Act and a resolution (with Sen. David Vitter and others) to clarify that children born to illegal aliens do not automatically gain citizenship. The proposal limited automatic citizenship to cases where at least one parent is a U.S. citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an active-duty member of the Armed Forces.
It's pretty clear that amnesty loving repuclians are preparing to Massie Rand for wanting citizenship protections. Very sad
Edit: Dang, grok says opie is a retard on this too
2011 (early in Senate tenure): Paul co-sponsored the Birthright Citizenship Act and a resolution (with Sen. David Vitter and others) to clarify that children born to illegal aliens do not automatically gain citizenship. The proposal limited automatic citizenship to cases where at least one parent is a U.S. citizen, a lawful permanent resident, or an active-duty member of the Armed Forces.
It's pretty clear that amnesty loving repuclians are preparing to Massie Rand for wanting citizenship protections. Very sad
Waincuck is pathetic.
According to exit polls, the maga base are sixty plus fox boomer cons and a handful of incel chuds like OP. In Twenty years the party's gonna flip when all these morons die off
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05-21-2026, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Grok gave more recent examples I just chose the oldest one to show how long rand has been on this page
That's a pretty reasonable clarification IMO. But 15 years since he offered it? Must not be a popular issue in congress.
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
05-21-2026, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Bonobo⏩
Yeah it's going to be a sliding scale. Even now their portion of the electorate is vanishing, and it will only speed up exponentially. The funny thing is republicans had the youth and therefor the future, and they decided to stab them in the back. I expect them to whine like little bitches when it comes time to find out.
Yes
Waincuck is pathetic.
According to exit polls, the maga base are sixty plus fox boomer cons and a handful of incel chuds like OP. In Twenty years the party's gonna flip when all these morons die off
Waincuck is pathetic.
According to exit polls, the maga base are sixty plus fox boomer cons and a handful of incel chuds like OP. In Twenty years the party's gonna flip when all these morons die off
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
05-21-2026, 06:46 PM
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05-22-2026, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
(R) had the youth vote?? Is that a joke??
Yeah it's going to be a sliding scale. Even now their portion of the electorate is vanishing, and it will only speed up exponentially. The funny thing is republicans had the youth and therefor the future, and they decided to stab them in the back. I expect them to whine like little bitches when it comes time to find out.
I think the only (R) that won/tied with the youth vote was Rodgers in MI.
The only age brackets Trump won were the over 50 vote.
05-22-2026, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
Nope, its right in the polling data. Every year more young people were voting red. All they had to do is seal the deal by delivering the promised AF agenda
(R) had the youth vote?? Is that a joke??
I think the only (R) that won/tied with the youth vote was Rodgers in MI.
The only age brackets Trump won were the over 50 vote.
I think the only (R) that won/tied with the youth vote was Rodgers in MI.
The only age brackets Trump won were the over 50 vote.
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
05-22-2026, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Polling and real life votes cast are two different things.
Nope, its right in the polling data. Every year more young people were voting red. All they had to do is seal the deal by delivering the promised AF agenda
Why dont you post exit polls, etc showing Trump winning the younger vote, which Im assuming is under 30?
05-22-2026, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
I thought you liked math bruh.
Polling and real life votes cast are two different things.
Why dont you post exit polls, etc showing Trump winning the younger vote, which Im assuming is under 30?
Why dont you post exit polls, etc showing Trump winning the younger vote, which Im assuming is under 30?
If republicans now have 100% aporoval from boomers and their performance is collapsing that means the youth/minority vote is leaving. Which means that was where republican success such as it was coming from.
If you want to wait a few months for florida and ohio to turn blue to accept it thats okay. Reality wins against cope eventually
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05-22-2026, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
So you have no proof to post showing Trump winning the under 30 youth vote? Got it.
I thought you liked math bruh.
If republicans now have 100% aporoval from boomers and their performance is collapsing that means the youth/minority vote is leaving. Which means that was where republican success such as it was coming from.
If you want to wait a few months for florida and ohio to turn blue to accept it thats okay. Reality wins against cope eventually
If republicans now have 100% aporoval from boomers and their performance is collapsing that means the youth/minority vote is leaving. Which means that was where republican success such as it was coming from.
If you want to wait a few months for florida and ohio to turn blue to accept it thats okay. Reality wins against cope eventually
The mistake youre making is youre not separating the youth/boomer vote based on race and instead grouping the boomer, etc vote as being racially monolithic. They are not.
Trump got 6% of the black boomer vote.
Trump got 41% of the latino boomer vote.
Trump got 56% of the white boomer vote.
05-22-2026, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
Yes, and republican approval with that demographic is up
So you have no proof to post showing Trump winning the under 30 youth vote? Got it.
The mistake youre making is youre not separating the youth/boomer vote based on race and instead grouping the boomer, etc vote as being racially monolithic. They are not.
Trump got 6% of the black boomer vote.
Trump got 41% of the latino boomer vote.
Trump got 56% of the white boomer vote.
The mistake youre making is youre not separating the youth/boomer vote based on race and instead grouping the boomer, etc vote as being racially monolithic. They are not.
Trump got 6% of the black boomer vote.
Trump got 41% of the latino boomer vote.
Trump got 56% of the white boomer vote.
Republican performance is down
These things cant be true at the same time unless non boomer support is leaving.
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
05-22-2026, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Approval and turnout are two different things. Young people generally dont turnout.
Yes, and republican approval with that demographic is up
Republican performance is down
These things cant be true at the same time unless non boomer support is leaving.
Republican performance is down
These things cant be true at the same time unless non boomer support is leaving.
Obviously midterms are different, but in 2024 the white 65+ vote was the same size as the under 45 vote.
05-22-2026, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS⏩
Not anymore they dont, at least not for republicans
Approval and turnout are two different things. Young people generally dont turnout.
Obviously midterms are different, but in 2024 the white 65+ vote was the same size as the under 45 vote.
Obviously midterms are different, but in 2024 the white 65+ vote was the same size as the under 45 vote.
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
05-22-2026, 04:44 PM
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05-22-2026, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Under 30 turnout was higher in 2020 than 2024.
Not anymore they dont, at least not for republicans
Only 47% of those under 30 voted.
White youth had the highest youth voter turnout (55%), followed by Asian (43%), Black (34%), and Latino (32%) If those minority numbers were 65% Trump wouldn't be president right now, so be happy with a low turnout...or not :)
Hell, even white men under 30 had a higher turnout(53%) in 2020 than 2024(51%)
The States with the highest under 30 turnout, notice something?
In 2024, Minnesota (62%), Maine (60%), Michigan (58%), and Colorado (56%) had the highest youth voter turnout in the country
The lowest, again, notice something?
Oklahoma (33%), Arkansas (33%), and Louisiana (36%) had the lowest youth voter turnout in 2024
I wonder why NJ was so much closer in 2024 than 2020, maybe because they had a 20% drop in under 30 voters compared to 2020.
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