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post 10000233935 2 days ago, 07:03 PM
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Space x lost over 600 Billion within two weeks of going public

Musk is no longer a Trillionaire.

Expectations for delivery are decreasing. They never should have existed in the first place.


You guys still wanna give the grifter your money? Anyone still in on it?


Trust me bro.com
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Biggest pump and dump in history
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Probably Elon unloading all his stock
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Originally Posted By DrugsToGetHigh⏩
Biggest pump and dump in history
Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
Probably Elon unloading all his stock
I think this is just and understanding of the reality of the situation.


I don’t think the actual rug pull is gonna happen for a little bit.

People are just blindly loyal to this shit man. Easily exploitable. Musk is gonna milk his little fan bois dry.


As long as there is an appearance of public support, the US government will keep giving him tax money. That is literally his business model.
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That's all jew math they didn't loose anything

The valuation they can set on whatever they want. Things like brand name and all that is entirely subjective

They set it way too high it was never worth 2 trillion dollars
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Originally Posted By Papi_Chulo⏩
That's all jew math they didn't loose anything

The valuation they can set on whatever they want. Things like brand name and all that is entirely subjective

They set it way too high it was never worth 2 trillion dollars
Right.

And the valuation was set like that to deceive people. And people paid in. He will not stop deceiving people because it fucking works.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
He will not stop deceiving people because it fucking works.
Thats life right? We see how gullible users are on the misc, prob more than half the users are the same 1 or 3 people and yet they get responses, reps and their stories taken seriously.

Let alone fake personalities in media taken at face value, let alone social media personalities taken at face value.

Let alone marketing

Let alone politics

And then there is what you are talking about, big corps, the juice or whoever it is that pulls the strings at the top.
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Originally Posted By Mulloway69⏩
Thats life right? We see how gullible users are on the misc, prob more than half the users are the same 1 or 3 people and yet they get responses, reps and their stories taken seriously.

Let alone fake personalities in media taken at face value, let alone social media personalities taken at face value.

Let alone marketing

Let alone politics

And then there is what you are talking about, big corps, the juice or whoever it is that pulls the strings at the top.
Yes. Literally everything is propaganda.

Be a light bringer.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Be a light bringer.
It's a lonely path ime, better to just go along with shit for the most part. You can only have candid convos with few people imo.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
I think this is just and understanding of the reality of the situation.


I don’t think the actual rug pull is gonna happen for a little bit.

People are just blindly loyal to this shit man. Easily exploitable. Musk is gonna milk his little fan bois dry.


As long as there is an appearance of public support, the US government will keep giving him tax money. That is literally his business model.
He'll probably buy it all back when it goes down to almost nothing, then make some announcement about going to mars
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Like I said weeks ago

Too many overvaluated ipos to be sustainable

This is just one
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Like I said weeks ago

Too many overvaluated ipos to be sustainable

This is just one
The entire system is built on lies.

That shit started the second the government switched from gold backed money to fiat money. It is a fact this is an unsustainable economy. It is just a matter of time.
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Originally Posted By Papi_Chulo⏩
That's all jew math they didn't loose anything

The valuation they can set on whatever they want. Things like brand name and all that is entirely subjective

They set it way too high it was never worth 2 trillion dollars
This

Valuation is a scam.

I had an equity analysis professor tell me valuation is as much of an art as it is a science. From that point onwards I knew financial markets were all about manipulation and making shit up.

Brb accounting for shit like "goodwill" and forecasting cash flows 20 years out and figuring out terminal values based on some growth rate in 20 years that noone on this earth could possibly ever know because fucking industries that exist today don't even exist in 20 years.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
This

Valuation is a scam.

I had an equity analysis professor tell me valuation is as much of an art as it is a science. From that point onwards I knew financial markets were all about manipulation and making shit up.

Brb accounting for shit like "goodwill" and forecasting cash flows 20 years out and figuring out terminal values based on some growth rate in 20 years that noone on this earth could possibly ever know because fucking industries that exist today don't even exist in 20 years.
Remember. The rules are literally make believe and they are not designed to benefit you or me.
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It seems to me like they made the optimal decision for their shareholders at the time. Why would you not raise money at the highest possible valuation? I'm not even an Elon fan.
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Originally Posted By MiscDetective⏩
It seems to me like they made the optimal decision for their shareholders at the time. Why would you not raise money at the highest possible valuation? I'm not even an Elon fan.
They are screwing the shareholders and using them as an insurance policy without giving them any say in business operations.

It’s a scam to exploit shareholders to get more taxpayer money. The shareholders get an illusion in return. When the insiders dump, which is 110% going to happen, the shareholders will have lost everything.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
They are screwing the shareholders and using them as an insurance policy without giving them any say in business operations.

It’s a scam to exploit shareholders to get more taxpayer money. The shareholders get an illusion in return. When the insiders dump, which is 110% going to happen, the shareholders will have lost everything.
I am not a fan of dual-class shareholder structures but also nobody is holding a gun to people's head and forcing them to buy in.

Also SpaceX is actually a very valuable company. Just possibly not worth $1.75tn.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Musk is no longer a Trillionaire.

Expectations for delivery are decreasing. They never should have existed in the first place.

You guys still wanna give the grifter your money? Anyone still in on it?

Trust me bro.com
His name is Elon Musk. He saved FREE SPEECH by acquiring and reforming X (formerly Twitter). He has created so many groundbreaking companies and innovations: co-founded Zip2 and PayPal (revolutionizing online business and payments); leads Tesla, the first major successful American car company in generations, pioneering electric vehicles; founded SpaceX, the only company capable of launching American astronauts to space from U.S. soil with reusable rockets; co-founded OpenAI; founded Neuralink (brain-computer interfaces), The Boring Company (advanced tunneling), and xAI (to understand the universe). Starlink. Elon is a true visionary reshaping industries and advancing humanity.

Who are you? What have you done?
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
His name is Elon Musk. He saved FREE SPEECH by acquiring and reforming X (formerly Twitter). He has created so many groundbreaking companies and innovations: co-founded Zip2 and PayPal (revolutionizing online business and payments); leads Tesla, the first major successful American car company in generations, pioneering electric vehicles; founded SpaceX, the only company capable of launching American astronauts to space from U.S. soil with reusable rockets; co-founded OpenAI; founded Neuralink (brain-computer interfaces), The Boring Company (advanced tunneling), and xAI (to understand the universe). Elon is a true visionary reshaping industries and advancing humanity.
Starlink

Who are you? What have you done?
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
His name is Elon Musk. He saved FREE SPEECH by acquiring and reforming X (formerly Twitter). He has created so many groundbreaking companies and innovations: co-founded Zip2 and PayPal (revolutionizing online business and payments); leads Tesla, the first major successful American car company in generations, pioneering electric vehicles; founded SpaceX, the only company capable of launching American astronauts to space from U.S. soil with reusable rockets; co-founded OpenAI; founded Neuralink (brain-computer interfaces), The Boring Company (advanced tunneling), and xAI (to understand the universe). Starlink. Elon is a true visionary reshaping industries and advancing humanity.

Who are you? What have you done?
I'm Ironmanlet.

I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and tanks. I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes… 

KILLED MANY MEN  

and loved only one woman with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am.

Now, go home boy!
“The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.“

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Like I said before the IPO: smart money will know to stay the fuck away from SpaceX for at least a few months.


The original investors who invested years ago used the IPO as their exit liquidity.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
I'm Ironmanlet.

I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and tanks. I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes… 

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and loved only one woman with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am.

Now, go home boy!
Monica
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The future is building shit in space, SRS. Also Starlink is pretty solid.

I'm waiting until it dumps a little more before buying in.
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
This

Valuation is a scam.

I had an equity analysis professor tell me valuation is as much of an art as it is a science. From that point onwards I knew financial markets were all about manipulation and making shit up.

Brb accounting for shit like "goodwill" and forecasting cash flows 20 years out and figuring out terminal values based on some growth rate in 20 years that noone on this earth could possibly ever know because fucking industries that exist today don't even exist in 20 years.
what's your problem with goodwill?
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
The entire system is built on lies.


This!
Add AI to the future equation and the world as we once knew is gone....no one to trust....know where to run and hide...
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
what's your problem with goodwill?
Too much subjectivity in determining the fair value of non tangible net identifiable assets (patents, brand, customer relationships etc.)

I’m probably speaking out of my ass tho tbh. What do you think about goodwill and specifically trying to estimate fair values of non tangible assets?
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX⏩
His name is Elon Musk. He saved FREE SPEECH by acquiring and reforming X (formerly Twitter). He has created so many groundbreaking companies and innovations: co-founded Zip2 and PayPal (revolutionizing online business and payments); leads Tesla, the first major successful American car company in generations, pioneering electric vehicles; founded SpaceX, the only company capable of launching American astronauts to space from U.S. soil with reusable rockets; co-founded OpenAI; founded Neuralink (brain-computer interfaces), The Boring Company (advanced tunneling), and xAI (to understand the universe). Starlink. Elon is a true visionary reshaping industries and advancing humanity.

Who are you? What have you done?
lol you say all that but did you buy his IPO? fuk no you stayed in your ETF


he made bag holders out of retail traders, its on purpose, he has so many early investors of his non public companies and gave them space x shares so they could unload as a favor, they over did it, they should have priced it lower to atleast let it run up a bit instead of tank. His own investors cant even sell yet. but they did change the rules to allow them to sell earlier than usual
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Originally Posted By notbadnotbrad⏩
Too much subjectivity in determining the fair value of non tangible net identifiable assets (patents, brand, customer relationships etc.)

I’m probably speaking out of my ass tho tbh. What do you think about goodwill and specifically trying to estimate fair values of non tangible assets?
they do that for businesses and people all the time

the kardashians especially the younger two, kylie jenner or whatever they wanted to be declared billionaires for Forbes so they could get the free publicity. of course they dont have an actual book value aka 1 billion in assets, but they did funny jew math to just declare whatever arbitrary dollar value needed on her "brand name" to close the gap. so maybe she had 400-500 million in actual assets but then the other half a billion in brand name worth, future income or whatever funny jew math to just declare themselves billionaires.

The only time anyone ever really knows a brand names value is when its getting sold and gets a real offer made. like an elvis presley estate selling his likeness or george foreman selling his rights back for the grill for something crazy like 200 million


space x dont even turn a profit they loose money but with magical jew math and imaginary future dollars and suposedly brand recognition though 60% of the world hates them now they can say that is worth 1.9 trillion dollars.

yahoo finance and the like should be required to put down book values right next to the market capitalization listed. And then everytime a 100 million dollar rocket blows up during launch subtract that out of their book value
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