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post 10000235359 06-28-2026, 09:20 PM
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Tomorrow, Trump's presidency officially becomes a massive success (birthright citizenship)

post 10000235462 06-28-2026, 10:32 PM
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Fences are being erected around SCOTUS apparently but Polymarket is giving it a 95% chance that Trumps EO is striken down by a vote of 6-3
post 10000235470 06-28-2026, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted By havoc00
Fences are being erected around SCOTUS
Srs? I keep seeing on Twitter it’s all going to come down to ACB
post 10000235476 06-28-2026, 10:55 PM
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Pretty clear.
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post 10000235543 06-29-2026, 01:53 AM
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I guess OP is a single issue voter.
post 10000235578 06-29-2026, 03:13 AM
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Fucking delusional troll lmao.
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post 10000235631 06-29-2026, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
I guess OP is a single issue voter.
Immigration is the only issue that matters, as nearly every other issue/policy outcome, etc is 100% dependent on expanding or limiting it.
post 10000235660 06-29-2026, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS
Immigration is the only issue that matters, as nearly every other issue/policy outcome, etc is 100% dependent on expanding or limiting it.
Please explain how immigration affects things overseas with the Iran war (or any foreign policy). I'm fascinated to read the mental gymnastics on that one.
post 10000235698 06-29-2026, 06:45 AM
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My guess


Birthright citizenship won't go away on this one- in part because of EO

However

It will be a split decision and there's a possibility It also won't define the 14th leaving Congress room to inact removal of birthright citizenship.
post 10000235709 06-29-2026, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
Please explain how immigration affects things overseas with the Iran war (or any foreign policy). I'm fascinated to read the mental gymnastics on that one.
That is one of the issues that is likely not affected that much by immigration. Basically all domestic social and fiscal issues are affected heavily by immigration, though.
post 10000235751 06-29-2026, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted By Waingro
I keep seeing on Twitter
Haha
post 10000235827 06-29-2026, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS
Immigration is the only issue that matters, as nearly every other issue/policy outcome, etc is 100% dependent on expanding or limiting it.
Pretty much this. Imagine not prioritizing people being let into your country that share none of the same ideas as the founders or citizens.
post 10000235839 06-29-2026, 08:21 AM
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And Humphrey's executor is dead :)




Wish I could bump opg's humphrey's executor thread on the last forum
post 10000235856 06-29-2026, 08:28 AM
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No birthright rolling today -later this week perhaps
post 10000235860 06-29-2026, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
Please explain how immigration affects things overseas with the Iran war (or any foreign policy). I'm fascinated to read the mental gymnastics on that one.
Immigration replaces the native electorate, hence the most important issue. One would think a native born Canadian would realize that??

PS, SC just ruled States can count mail in ballots that arrive late.

Good Night Sweet Midterms.
post 10000235867 06-29-2026, 08:36 AM
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Immigration seems more like the symptom than the disease.

We can pay for all our shit by taking more from existing citizens, or import more citizens.

We don't like taxes so the answer is clear.
post 10000235875 06-29-2026, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard
Immigration seems more like the symptom than the disease.

We can pay for all our shit by taking more from existing citizens, or import more citizens.

We don't like taxes so the answer is clear.
Who knew literally importing poverty allows legacy Americans to keep more of their money??

Who knew importing literal tens of millions of people increased the abundance of natural resources??

Who knew over saturating the labor supply through immigration increased American wages??

I just did the math and if allow in another 20 million impoverished foreigners, tax rates will drop to near zero and we're all gonna become multi-millionaires!!!
post 10000235890 06-29-2026, 08:58 AM
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Cross eyed Karen will cuck trump bigly again
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post 10000235899 06-29-2026, 09:01 AM
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post 10000235929 06-29-2026, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS
Who knew literally importing poverty allows legacy Americans to keep more of their money??

Who knew importing literal tens of millions of people increased the abundance of natural resources??

Who knew over saturating the labor supply through immigration increased American wages??

I just did the math and if allow in another 20 million impoverished foreigners, tax rates will drop to near zero and we're all gonna become multi-millionaires!!!
Is it wrong that the economy would stagnate without immigration?
post 10000235944 06-29-2026, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard
Immigration seems more like the symptom than the disease.

We can pay for all our shit by taking more from existing citizens, or import more citizens.

We don't like taxes so the answer is clear.
Tard.. You fought like a caged animal to defend your Learing Center fraud.

Stopping shit like that would go a long way towards paying for our shit WITHOUT raising taxes, OR importing more immigrants.
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post 10000235967 06-29-2026, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard
We can pay for all our shit by taking more from existing citizens, or import more citizens.
Your statement is fundamentally wrong because it ignores how economies grow, how governments fund themselves and the actual fiscal impact of immigration.

Governments do not just divide a fixed pie as most liberal loons like to believe; they can grow the pie.

Productivity gains increase tax revenues without changing tax rates.

Innovation creates entirely new industries and taxable income streams.

GDP expansion allows a country to outgrow its debt naturally.

Importing more citizens is not a guaranteed financial gain for a government.

New citizens cost money in infrastructure, healthcare, education and public services.

Demographics matter because bringing in retirees costs more than bringing in working-age adults.

Net fiscal impact depends entirely on whether the new citizens pay more in taxes than they consume in public benefits. With this in mind, in blue States, illegal immigrants consume much more than they produce. Another way to tell that democrats protect illegals only for the consensus, welfare fraud to launder money to political campaigns and future votes.
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post 10000235995 06-29-2026, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Mark1T
Your statement is fundamentally wrong because it ignores how economies grow, how governments fund themselves and the actual fiscal impact of immigration.

Governments do not just divide a fixed pie as most liberal loons like to believe; they can grow the pie.

Productivity gains increase tax revenues without changing tax rates.

Innovation creates entirely new industries and taxable income streams.

GDP expansion allows a country to outgrow its debt naturally.

Importing more citizens is not a guaranteed financial gain for a government.

New citizens cost money in infrastructure, healthcare, education and public services.

Demographics matter because bringing in retirees costs more than bringing in working-age adults.

Net fiscal impact depends entirely on whether the new citizens pay more in taxes than they consume in public benefits. With this in mind, in blue States, illegal immigrants consume much more than they produce. Another way to tell that democrats protect illegals only for the consensus, welfare fraud to launder money to political campaigns and future votes.
Immigrants pay taxes to various extent, but they are also customers that help feed our service based economy.

You’re right that there are other considerations and pros and cons to each of them.

You’re wrong to fixate on Democrats though. There’s a reason this has been happening for decades regardless of which party is in control, and it boils down to money.
post 10000236047 06-29-2026, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Seatard
Is it wrong that the economy would stagnate without immigration?
I'll take stagnation over eradication every day of the week.
post 10000236069 06-29-2026, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted By RIKTERS
I'll take stagnation over eradication every day of the week.
This is really starting to get to the root of things. Are you willing to sell out the country and your principles for personal gain?

Reality is that most Americans will answer “yes”.
post 10000236089 06-29-2026, 11:04 AM
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When scotus doesn't end birthright citizenship will opie rope?
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post 10000236137 06-29-2026, 11:30 AM
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Will we get it by the end of the day? or later in the week now?
post 10000236162 06-29-2026, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
When scotus doesn't end birthright citizenship will opie rope?
Depending on his answer to that question, I may start to support birthright citizenship
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post 10000236165 06-29-2026, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By havoc00
Will we get it by the end of the day? or later in the week now?
Two more weeks until Turnmph’s presidency officially becomes a massive success like has never been seen.
post 10000236333 06-29-2026, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Bonobo
Depending on his answer to that question, I may start to support birthright citizenship
Doesn't take much for you to root against America does it?
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