I have been lifting since 2010 and have tried pretty much everything under the sun. Be it weight gainers, fatburners, iodine, vitamin b12, zinc, creatine, etc.

My conclusion after 5 years:

- Fat burners

Dont need them. Big scam

- Protein powder

Another scam. Convenient yes but u never know what crap they put in. Its better anyways to get ur protein from red meat, chicken, fish, etc. Protein requirements are exaggerated. You dont need much. Also it has whey in it which is dairy thus increasing estrogen, bloating, making u hold water. Dont bother with whey powder (srs)

- Pre Workouts

Useful after a long day or when u need energy. Definitely dont take that **** everyday or u will have heart problems and trouble sleeping. Also theres the problem of u not knowing what they put in the formula. "blend" of peace.

- Vitamins

Now vitamins are very legit as long as u get them in the right form and only supplement the necessary ones that are worth supplementing.

Vitamin D

Get that **** if ur not at least 2 hours in the sun every day or live somewhere in Northern Europe or UK of peace

Vitamin B12 & B3

If u eat plenty of red meat u will get enough but with taking b12 & niacinamide seperately i noticed even a bigger difference. Seriously consider supplementing these 2 b vitamins. Make sure the B12 is methyl form

- Minerals

Zinc

Zinc is fuking legit. The only mineral worth supplementing. Higher T, lower E, bigger loads, better sleep, better skin, the list goes on.

- Others

Fish Oil

Only 1-2 gram a day. What is most importantly is that u fuking get rid of Omega 6s in ur diet which are pro inflammatory

Magnesium/Calcium/Vitamin A/Vitamin E/Iron

All fuking worthless to supplement if not harmful

- Multi-vitamin

See above. So much crap in the wrong form mixed in 1 tablet. Dont get multis

- Extra

Apple cider vinegar, ginger, garlic, tumeric, cloves, coconut oil. ALL FUKING LEGIT. Put that **** on ur food. All good stuff

Enjoy brahs this is the only legit list (srs)

Not sure if srs or troll when I read the zinc part

All i got from this was "redredredred"

Olive oil is pretty GOAT as well

List is actually pretty legit, gjdm

Good list actually. Agree with most of your points. Just lol @ the miscer who has never tried zinc.

Pretty sure creatine actually works. I blew up when I was taking it. Don't take anything anymore just protein powder

All the supplements you listed work.
Whey protein or any other form of supplemental protein gives you the needed protein if you lack it in your regular diet. But it is better to get it from your regular diet.
Hospitals actually recommend taking in protein shakes for those lacking it in their diet normally via products like ensure.
Fat burners work through herbal extracts and caffeine which can lessen your appetite to a degree, but also induce nausea.
Vitamins ofc are good to take in moderation. Zinc and fish oil are both good supplements as well.
Pre-workout is iffy. Can be dangerous in excess. Tolerance can be built pretty quickly as well, but when you're not adjusted it can give you a boost if you're lower on energy.
Supplements all work, but the benefits are exaggerated and they do what you can already do, just make it slightly easier to get via instant gratification.
Supplements are meant to supplement not replace.

got 1/4 through post, saw op is banned, stopped reading

He's not banned yet, it's just his user title. But he will be if he keeps it there.

Too bad nobody can take this thread seriously since you're a no avi red

****ing LMFAO to protein powder being a scam for fitness/bodybuilding.

Real food is obviously better but for many of us we'd miss our protein requirements by far if we didn't supplement with protein powder. On days I eat lots of meat I don't take any protein powder.

but the zinc stuff is actually true.
Good list OP

Sure, maybe if you're deficient in it

140 lbs.....

okey dokey

So... its all bullchit except for pretty much all Suppliments. Right

Lol at "blew up" on creatine.

Lists Apple Cider Vinegar when there is no scientific evidence of benefits...

Not that it's entirely wrong, but clearly a childish list made by a novice.

You'll do better in 10 years when you've actually put some of your theories to test in various ways.

Take a look at the sugar in ensure, that chit is horrible for you.
Might as well drink soda

hmmmm