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Originally Posted By liftasaurus⏩
Oh god here we goyou're not even part of the social media generation. for people who are 20 now.. their peers are going to see a MASSIVE decline in marriage and kids. and we're going to import massive amounts of immigrants. the world will turn into chaos
-everyone thinks their generation is the most important
-everyone thinks they're living in the "end times"
-everyone thinks they'll be the one that sees the end of the world
-everyone thinks the generations to come after them are destroying the country
flippin' Aristotle was bitching about this exact chit.
05-21-2016, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Bar182⏩
By your logic, every single girl is no longer marriage material due to the invention of social media/tinder/smartphone. Totally ignorant.Your Father and Grandfather lived in a very very very different world. We are in the Social media/Tinder/Smartphone generation, everything your Father and Grandfather said has no relevance whatsoever in the current world of dating and relationships.
They are so far out of touch with the current environment that whatever they say means diddly squat because it is not applicable to today.
They are so far out of touch with the current environment that whatever they say means diddly squat because it is not applicable to today.
What they say doesn't mean diddly squat? Moral lessons and life lessons.......working hard for what you want in life, working through relationships and not quitting on someone at the first sign of trouble, loving someone through the hard times as well as the easy, and many more...these lessons stay true regardless of the world around us.
I'm not denying its harder to find a good girl these days to marry. Your claim denouncing all experience of previous generations, though, is absolutely ignorant and extremely arrogant. You're 32 years old and have a lot of life left and a lot of maturing to do.
"Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"
Sounds like you're just another classic example of the stupidity of mankind...
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5⏩
It may seem that way if you live in a state or region of a country that is more rural, *raises hand* (everybody is getting married and popping out babies left and right out here)I feel this is pretty accurate
I just don't see it, I think it may be the opinion of "Janice Shaw Crouse, author of “Marriage Matters.”
Authors make wild claims to sell books
My social circle of mates (15-20 men age 30ish). White, suburban, middle to upper middle class. Sloot central but still 80-90% are married/kids or at the very least have kids and live with their partner and 'engaged' etc.
I just don't see it, I think it may be the opinion of "Janice Shaw Crouse, author of “Marriage Matters.”
Authors make wild claims to sell books
My social circle of mates (15-20 men age 30ish). White, suburban, middle to upper middle class. Sloot central but still 80-90% are married/kids or at the very least have kids and live with their partner and 'engaged' etc.
But if you go to any densely populated city you'll see very few people are married, and those are the numbers that count because the vast majority of the worlds populations are condensed in large cities.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Population controlOh god here we go
-everyone thinks their generation is the most important
-everyone thinks they're living in the "end times"
-everyone thinks they'll be the one that sees the end of the world
-everyone thinks the generations to come after them are destroying the country
flippin' Aristotle was bitching about this exact chit.
-everyone thinks their generation is the most important
-everyone thinks they're living in the "end times"
-everyone thinks they'll be the one that sees the end of the world
-everyone thinks the generations to come after them are destroying the country
flippin' Aristotle was bitching about this exact chit.
05-21-2016, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By 18ToLife⏩
What don't you like about a Christian girl's personality? Is it that she won't sloot around? Is it that she doesn't spend her day feeding her alter-ago through social media? Is it that she wants to have kids?conservative crew
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you are the minority.... your train of thought is different from most people, and sure you might find a girl with similar morals..... but most of us arent gonna find girls with that mentality, when we arent conservative christians.
also, if we do, wtf do i have in common with conservative christian white girls? nothing..... so i wont date them let alone marry them if i dont like their personality.
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you are the minority.... your train of thought is different from most people, and sure you might find a girl with similar morals..... but most of us arent gonna find girls with that mentality, when we arent conservative christians.
also, if we do, wtf do i have in common with conservative christian white girls? nothing..... so i wont date them let alone marry them if i dont like their personality.
So you think moral girls are marriage worthy, but you don't like moral girls... So basically, you have no morals.
You do realize that having morals is not a religious or Christian thing? Most non religious people believe in not stealing, not cheating, not murdering, etc...
You act as if morality is a bad thing. Good luck finding anyone to marry with that mentality. If you don't choose a wife based off aligning moral values, then all you have left is sexual attraction and favorite movies...both of which are very shallow similarities that we both know will not hold a marriage together long term.
Might consider getting some morals.
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Originally Posted By 8MoreReps⏩
Good lad, yeah, it is worth just staying away from such types. If you want sex just go to a nightclub/bar and pick up some slut that is not going to follow you around like a bad smell.I had a chance to hang out with a fairly cute chick from work, but she has a kid. She pretty much gave me a free invitation to hangout with her. Said her kid is not home so she is going to the movies by herself tonight. I ignored it and went home to spend my night alone. I lose all interest in the girl because she had a kid real young, plus I work with her.
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Originally Posted By 8MoreReps⏩
So much this.No, I didn't grow up in it, but pretty much all women my age are immersed in it. I feel like anyone who gets married or has kids is just to show off on ********. They plan ahead to take a picture of their husband on one knee proposing just to post it on social media and get likes. Next comes the count down posts till the wedding, and even after they feel the need to repost pics from the wedding looking for likes. Same thing with pregnancy through kids stage. All posted on social media like people care.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Thats your opinion...and besides I work in Healthcare, I help more people in a single day than some will in their entire lifetime.My parents have been together 22 years and they still act crazy together. Both will be the first to admit that marriage and kids are no cake walk. However, nothing good in life comes easy as any of you who have ever achieved anything in life should know. The greatest satisfaction comes from giving of yourself to others.
Arnold himself says that you need to leave this work having helped somebody else...that you need to get outside yourself.
Arnold himself says that you need to leave this work having helped somebody else...that you need to get outside yourself.
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Originally Posted By sevva888⏩
In my case an ex highschool class mate got married,as far as i know she is still married.So much this.
I found her on Tinder lmao.ded
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Getting paid to help people is quite different from doing it freely.Thats your opinion...and besides I work in Healthcare, I help more people in a single day than some will in their entire lifetime.
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Originally Posted By BeardBrahhh⏩
That is a good point to bring up. This thread is mainly targeted towards guys who have never been married, but what about the ones that have been married and got divorced? Are they still selfish and contributing to the downward spiral of society for not trying to get marriedagainafter all the chit they had to go through the first time?I forsee a tremendous amount of divorced 30-40 year olds whom will never remarry along with ones that had the sense to avoid the whole thing entirely.
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I wouldn't mind having kids eventually, but marriage is a big no no. I don't feel comfortable putting half my assets on the line, and I don't feel like I should have to prove my love by signing a contract. I'm a bastard, my parents were bastards and my kids will be bastards. Might as well call me Mr. fuking Snow. I hate the idea of marriage.
How dare you!
Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner.
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
"You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later."The problem is that when you have countries with 1-2 standard deviations IQ lower outbreeding western countries by 3-5x the rate, it's a recipe for disaster.
The only thing that saves the world is singularity, but if that somehow doesn't come, you will literally see idiocracy on the grand scale.
Do not delude yourself, if you can't find a decent partner nowadays, there's nothing wrong with not having kids, but the people that are posting in this thread (self-aware and aware of the world around them enough to discern between what to a lot seems like an obvious choice) are the EXACT sort of people that you want having kids.
These are higher IQ individuals with longer time preference meaning that they can defer gratification and plan for the long term based on the world around them. THOSE are the people that you want to have 3-5 kids.
The only thing that saves the world is singularity, but if that somehow doesn't come, you will literally see idiocracy on the grand scale.
Do not delude yourself, if you can't find a decent partner nowadays, there's nothing wrong with not having kids, but the people that are posting in this thread (self-aware and aware of the world around them enough to discern between what to a lot seems like an obvious choice) are the EXACT sort of people that you want having kids.
These are higher IQ individuals with longer time preference meaning that they can defer gratification and plan for the long term based on the world around them. THOSE are the people that you want to have 3-5 kids.
So much this. All you fukkos saying you don't want to have kids is not the right mentality. If you are an intelligent self aware individual the world needs more people like you. Sadly all the dumb as fuk people are out breeding the intelligent people.. hence why the world IQ is slowly declining. The welfare state is a significant part of this problem. Literally takes natural selection out of the equation for human beings.
Personally for me, I find this whole topic really hard. I come from a fairly conservative household that taught from a very young age that women were lovely creatures that men should treat with respect, protect, and be companions too... So as I got older you can imagine my shock when everyone started fuking eachother at 14 (UK of peace) and I found out a lot of them were actually total entitled kunts.
I don't want to get married to a sloot to be fair... so I try to not be a sloot myself... and yet it's so easy for myself to go down the path of slooting, which goes against all my values and is so hypocritical of me... but I always think why am not slooting? Because in reality it seems like that decent non slooty girl is just a fairy tale.
So no, I don't think i'll get married... But fuk i'm only 20 and I could change my mind. But at the moment it's seems like a chit deal considering most marriages fail. When you realise you have 2/3 odds of loosing half your chit and ending up alone and miserable, it really isn't that exciting of a prospect.
I do want to have kids though, but I don't want to have them unless I'm married, which is a fuking dilemma.
EDIT: What a fuking world we live in where young people get worried about things like this. What a world.
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Originally Posted By Goncho⏩
lol no, they're are the slootiest of all. When they're finally able to be with someone, they'll realize what they've missed out on and do one of two things;if you do get married, be sure shes not a day over 20 and raised extremely sheltered and preferably hardcore christian (you can convince her otherwise later on lol)..
-go to college and become the towns "watering hole" for the majority of the baseball/basketball/football/lacrosse teams.
-or become even more ravenously religious with age to the point that she only wants to have sex for the purpose of procreation, forces you to go to church functions, puts a bunch of "Jesus saves" bumper stickers all over her car and sets up a cabinet set and fills it with Jesus and Mary porcelain figurines and prevents you from watching R rated movies.
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Originally Posted By MattBro95⏩
Indian women mate."You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later."
So much this. All you fukkos saying you don't want to have kids is not the right mentality. If you are an intelligent self aware individual the world needs more people like you. Sadly all the dumb as fuk people are out breeding the intelligent people.. hence why the world IQ is slowly declining. The welfare state is a significant part of this problem. Literally takes natural selection out of the equation for human beings.
Personally for me, I find this whole topic really hard. I come from a fairly conservative household that taught from a very young age that women were lovely creatures that men should treat with respect, protect, and be companions too... So as I got older you can imagine my shock when everyone started fuking eachother at 14(UK of peace)and I found out a lot of them were actually total entitled kunts.
I don't want to get married to a sloot to be fair... so I try to not be a sloot myself... and yet it's so easy for me myself to go down the path of slooting which goes against all my values and is so hypocritical of me... but I always think why am not slooting? Because in reality it seems like that decent non slooty girl is just a fairy tale.
So no, I don't think i'll get married... But fuk i'm only 20 and I could change my mind. I do want to have kids though, but I don't want to have them unless I'm married, which is a fuking dilemma.
So much this. All you fukkos saying you don't want to have kids is not the right mentality. If you are an intelligent self aware individual the world needs more people like you. Sadly all the dumb as fuk people are out breeding the intelligent people.. hence why the world IQ is slowly declining. The welfare state is a significant part of this problem. Literally takes natural selection out of the equation for human beings.
Personally for me, I find this whole topic really hard. I come from a fairly conservative household that taught from a very young age that women were lovely creatures that men should treat with respect, protect, and be companions too... So as I got older you can imagine my shock when everyone started fuking eachother at 14(UK of peace)and I found out a lot of them were actually total entitled kunts.
I don't want to get married to a sloot to be fair... so I try to not be a sloot myself... and yet it's so easy for me myself to go down the path of slooting which goes against all my values and is so hypocritical of me... but I always think why am not slooting? Because in reality it seems like that decent non slooty girl is just a fairy tale.
So no, I don't think i'll get married... But fuk i'm only 20 and I could change my mind. I do want to have kids though, but I don't want to have them unless I'm married, which is a fuking dilemma.
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Originally Posted By jakobi78⏩
We decided on both these points back in early 2011. Time to Stand Up And Stay Rich.age 36....its a bit too late now.....time to LDAR
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
So basically...females can do no right.lol no, they're are the slootiest of all. When they're finally able to be with someone, they'll realize what they've missed out on and do one of two things;
-go to college and become the towns "watering hole" for the majority of the baseball/basketball/football/lacrosse teams.
-or become even more ravenously religious with age to the point that she only wants to have sex for the purpose of procreation, forces you to go to church functions, puts a bunch of "Jesus saves" bumper stickers all over her car and sets up a cabinet set and fills it with Jesus and Mary porcelain figurines and prevents you from watching R rated movies.
-go to college and become the towns "watering hole" for the majority of the baseball/basketball/football/lacrosse teams.
-or become even more ravenously religious with age to the point that she only wants to have sex for the purpose of procreation, forces you to go to church functions, puts a bunch of "Jesus saves" bumper stickers all over her car and sets up a cabinet set and fills it with Jesus and Mary porcelain figurines and prevents you from watching R rated movies.
There are either sloots...or there are girls that pretend to be religious but are still sloots.
I'm your reality, girls who are marriage material don't exist. Amazing.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
am I wrong in making that assumption?So basically...females can do no right.
There are either sloots...or there are girls that pretend to be religious but are still sloots.
I'm your reality, girls who are marriage material don't exist. Amazing.
There are either sloots...or there are girls that pretend to be religious but are still sloots.
I'm your reality, girls who are marriage material don't exist. Amazing.
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5⏩
You're 24 bro
I seen my mates drop off and get married one by one starting at around your age
33 now and 80% are married and/or kids
It's just the direction they are pressured by the women they are with at that age
Watch it happen
I seen my mates drop off and get married one by one starting at around your age
33 now and 80% are married and/or kids
It's just the direction they are pressured by the women they are with at that age
Watch it happen
Originally Posted By Jessejame5⏩
um, well, ok, Maybe we just need to forget about the Australians for a second and focus on what going on here in Ameri-Are you all there in the head? Srs question
Firstly your 'article' is from cns news. now I'm a conservative and even I wouldn't believe anything they write.
Secondly, the 70% statistic is quoted from "Janice Shaw Crouse, author of “Marriage Matters.” (Yeah, who?)
So what's the source?
Is it a reputable research organization?
You have the hide to accuse me of conformation bias, yet you read this trash that circulates on MGTOW/redpill forums full of bitter losers and pass it off as statistics cos it fits your own personal narrative
Edit: Strong 'statistic' ******* hahah
Update:
Holy chit, just did some digging, and this 'statistic' is from the authors "own research"
Hahah, it's fukcin bullchit, it's made up. Disregard this whole thread
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...and-perpetual/
Firstly your 'article' is from cns news. now I'm a conservative and even I wouldn't believe anything they write.
Secondly, the 70% statistic is quoted from "Janice Shaw Crouse, author of “Marriage Matters.” (Yeah, who?)
So what's the source?
Is it a reputable research organization?
You have the hide to accuse me of conformation bias, yet you read this trash that circulates on MGTOW/redpill forums full of bitter losers and pass it off as statistics cos it fits your own personal narrative
Edit: Strong 'statistic' ******* hahah
Update:
Holy chit, just did some digging, and this 'statistic' is from the authors "own research"
Hahah, it's fukcin bullchit, it's made up. Disregard this whole thread
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...and-perpetual/
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Nothing I can say to reason with you if you truly believe that.am I wrong in making that assumption?
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I'm sure it will only increase from here. The divorce rate will also only be going up
just lol@ getting married in todays age. just lol.
just lol@ getting married in todays age. just lol.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Actually, I'd like to hear what you have to say. More specifically, I'd like proof that there aren't ANY marriage worthy girls out there and that every girl who claims morals/religious values is in fact a sloot.Maybe, I'd like to hear what you have to say.
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Originally Posted By Bar182⏩
Ok, but we're acting like 100% of females are in tune with the media environment. Which is not the case.Your Father and Grandfather lived in a very very very different world. We are in the Social media/Tinder/Smartphone generation, everything your Father and Grandfather said has no relevance whatsoever in the current world of dating and relationships.
They are so far out of touch with the current environment that whatever they say means diddly squat because it is not applicable to today.
They are so far out of touch with the current environment that whatever they say means diddly squat because it is not applicable to today.
There actually are women who are awakened to the media pitfall and avoid it like the plague. They're just not out at the bars for the miscers to work their PUA magic on them. They're out doing constructive things. Therefore Men have to do these things too, in order to bond with the Women. It's not a hard concept. Yoga. Volunteering. Spirituality. All things that benefit society.
Also, just because we're here now doesn't mean it'll be this way forever. I see media as a stove top burner. Once it's hot enough, it burns people into becoming more active in their own lives. Sure, it'll take a couple or three generations. But that burner is on, believe it.
It's actually pushing people to where theses idols are not. In the communities, on a local level. So, I choose to look at it from an optimistic standpoint. Once the Idolization stops, people get back to their roots.
You can't tell me these Women don't know instinctively that something's amiss. They just need time to figure their way through it. Have faith.
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It's unfortunate that nobody wants to have kids these days, including females.
Birth rates in NA are at an all time low. The demographics are going to be fukked in 40 years.
Birth rates in NA are at an all time low. The demographics are going to be fukked in 40 years.
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Originally Posted By VSVP99⏩
Reps on r/c. Shocking to find another miscer who isn't a bitter, FA misogynist.Ok, but we're acting like 100% of females are in tune with the media environment. Which is not the case.
There actually are women who are awakened to the media pitfalls and avoid it like the plague. They're just not out at the bars for the miscers to work their PUA magic on them. They're out doing constructive things. Therefore Men have to go out and do these things too. It's not hard. Yoga. Volunteering. Spirituality. All things that benefit society.
Also, just because we're here now doesn't mean it'll be this way forever. I see media as a stove top burner. Once it's hot enough, it burns people into becoming more active. Sure, it'll take a couple or three generations. But that burner is on, believe it.
When you look at where the mass hoard of Kardashians, and where they're not. Those areas are growing. It's actually pushing people to where they're not. In the communities, on a local level. So, I choose to look at it from an optimistic standpoint. Once the Idolization stops, people get back to their roots.
You can't tell me these Women don't know instinctively that something's amiss. They just need time to figure their way through it. Have faith.
There actually are women who are awakened to the media pitfalls and avoid it like the plague. They're just not out at the bars for the miscers to work their PUA magic on them. They're out doing constructive things. Therefore Men have to go out and do these things too. It's not hard. Yoga. Volunteering. Spirituality. All things that benefit society.
Also, just because we're here now doesn't mean it'll be this way forever. I see media as a stove top burner. Once it's hot enough, it burns people into becoming more active. Sure, it'll take a couple or three generations. But that burner is on, believe it.
When you look at where the mass hoard of Kardashians, and where they're not. Those areas are growing. It's actually pushing people to where they're not. In the communities, on a local level. So, I choose to look at it from an optimistic standpoint. Once the Idolization stops, people get back to their roots.
You can't tell me these Women don't know instinctively that something's amiss. They just need time to figure their way through it. Have faith.
You've got to understand, the majority of miscers dissing marriage have never been married and probably can't secure a date.
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