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What's the hardest sport to play? Soccer or Baseball or hockey?
06-01-2016, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscDaddy⏩
lol @ jogging for 90 minutesLol @ comparing endurance levels of hockey and soccer. One of them you jog around for 90 minutes. The other you skate balls out for a 45 sec shift at a time. Apples and potatoes.
What a chitty comparison to make.
What a chitty comparison to make.
what a chitty post spoken like someone whose never played
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There are players who in College can switch from Baseball to Basketball to Football and make it in the Professional leagues.
Hockey, Soccer, Tennis players all start at age 3-5 to get into the professional leagues and still most don't make it.
Hockey, Soccer, Tennis players all start at age 3-5 to get into the professional leagues and still most don't make it.
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Originally Posted By residesinAZ⏩
Stupidest thing I've read all day, don't try pretend you comprehend a sport you clearly have no basic understanding of. I'm a hard core soccer and hockey fan. I guarantee you no NHL player would be able to make an accurate 10ft soccer pass. Of course anyone can play the game, but the technicality required to actually perform the fundamentals of the soccer are extremely high. The NHL these days is diluted in talent to an extent where it is almost unwatchable. Each team only has one maybe two elite level players if they're lucky. The rest of the roster is filled with a bunch of lower skilled players whose job is to primarily grind it out, get into the corners, and backcheck. In soccer you actually need to have the vision, creativity, and awareness to make that decisisve pass that splits the defenders to create a prime scoring chance. Hockey post 2008 mostly involves players shooting the puck in from the blue line hoping for the goalie to spill it or get a defection of a skate or stick. The level of creativity in hockey is not even remotely close to soccer.Hockey>Baseball>Soccer
Take the skates and gear off a hockey player, they still have the hand eye coordination to play baseball, even if its at a club level, andanyone can run around and kick a ball, even if you aren't pro level, anyone can still play soccer.
Put skates and gear on any top soccer player and see how they do.
Take the skates and gear off a hockey player, they still have the hand eye coordination to play baseball, even if its at a club level, andanyone can run around and kick a ball, even if you aren't pro level, anyone can still play soccer.
Put skates and gear on any top soccer player and see how they do.
06-01-2016, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By jro9999⏩
Fair enough..."jogging for 90 minutes" isn't a fair evaluation.lol @ jogging for 90 minutes
what a chitty post spoken like someone whose never played
what a chitty post spoken like someone whose never played
Don't get me wrong pro soccer players have incredible endurance. Jogging, explosive sprinting, fighting for position, jumping for headers. However the pace of the game is slower and there is more time for recovery and rest while on the field. I have never played at a real level but I am a fan, I watch a lot on tv.
I'm just saying that hockey is different endurance. It is a lot more explosive and less "jogging". Hockey requires the player to play balls out almost 100 percent of the time they are on the ice. That is why shifts are so short I'm hockey.
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06-01-2016, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By JPeeper⏩
The players that could possibly be 2 or 3 sport pros are exceptional among pro level athletes. Like top 1% among professional athletes.There are players who in College can switch from Baseball to Basketball to Football and make it in the Professional leagues.
Hockey, Soccer, Tennis players all start at age 3-5 to get into the professional leagues and still most don't make it.
Hockey, Soccer, Tennis players all start at age 3-5 to get into the professional leagues and still most don't make it.
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06-01-2016, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Nelly87⏩
The fact that American Football is number 3 on this list instantly disqualifies it as anything to be taken seriously. Lolworthy sport that doesn't require 1/10 the skill of most other major sportshttp://espn.go.com/espn/page2/sportSkills
Golf - #51
Soccer - #10
Boxing - #1
Hockey - #2
We can trust ESPN and their panel of experts or we can go off of a bunch of random people's opinions and own experience
Golf - #51
Soccer - #10
Boxing - #1
Hockey - #2
We can trust ESPN and their panel of experts or we can go off of a bunch of random people's opinions and own experience
06-01-2016, 04:09 PM
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Gymnastic and it's not even close
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The toughest, hardest, most technical, complete and wide spectrum demanding sport by far. Nothing even comes close.
Circus? The circus world has nothing on this sport in pure physical challenge. Ex-gymnasts when unable to produce anymore on the professional gymnastics arena, 'retire' into circus. Its their retirement - they 'play around'.
Gymnastics in a nutshell:
BRAVERY - Boxers think that getting used to being punched in the face is brave, but gymnasts have to deal with double flips in between two bars of wood with steel inside, smashing into their upper arms and sometimes on other body parts. They land shins first into the metal high bar, they crash into their necks from immense heights and they cannot attempt to do any of this stuff without the required courage. Most people have NO IDEA what it takes, they cannot fathom the amount of courage this stuff requires
RESILIENCE - Gymnast have to have 'Body Armour' or a 'Corset' of conditioned soft tissue, muscles and joints. Their skeletons are denser than normal, they are able to take an immense beating and live to tell about it, or else...
UPPER BODY STRENGTH - pound for pound the strongest athletes alive - can do what you do almost as good as you, even if you are elite in your sport, but you cannot even imagine doing what they do
MOBILITY - full body mobility - shoulders, spine, legs, in dynamic, static, loaded, active conditions and with strength the match
BALANCE - on the feet, on the hands, in all vectors and shapes, in tilting reflexes or in righting reflexes
SPEED - most of gymnastics elements CANNOT be done without proper speed. We are not talking can be done but WORSE, we are talking CANNOT BE DONE AT ALL
STAMINA - yes, stamina, I've taken a few time elite athletes through a basic gymnastics warm up with proper cadence, just to see them getting nauseated and puky in less than 5 minutes
SELF DOMINANCE - the combination of all the above comes up into the ability to control yourself in changing environments and to great ADAPTABILITY
The elements demonstrated in this clip take 10-15 YEARS to develop and perfect. No other sport or discipline comes close to this. You enter at 4-5-7 years of age and you peak at 18-25. (as a male) Throughout those years you spit blood, sacrifice relationships, suffer and grind your teeth, that is why when I see this, I have nothing but...
ref :https://www.********.com/portal.ido/...16079771839707
Supermen among men.
The toughest, hardest, most technical, complete and wide spectrum demanding sport by far. Nothing even comes close.
Circus? The circus world has nothing on this sport in pure physical challenge. Ex-gymnasts when unable to produce anymore on the professional gymnastics arena, 'retire' into circus. Its their retirement - they 'play around'.
Gymnastics in a nutshell:
BRAVERY - Boxers think that getting used to being punched in the face is brave, but gymnasts have to deal with double flips in between two bars of wood with steel inside, smashing into their upper arms and sometimes on other body parts. They land shins first into the metal high bar, they crash into their necks from immense heights and they cannot attempt to do any of this stuff without the required courage. Most people have NO IDEA what it takes, they cannot fathom the amount of courage this stuff requires
RESILIENCE - Gymnast have to have 'Body Armour' or a 'Corset' of conditioned soft tissue, muscles and joints. Their skeletons are denser than normal, they are able to take an immense beating and live to tell about it, or else...
UPPER BODY STRENGTH - pound for pound the strongest athletes alive - can do what you do almost as good as you, even if you are elite in your sport, but you cannot even imagine doing what they do
MOBILITY - full body mobility - shoulders, spine, legs, in dynamic, static, loaded, active conditions and with strength the match
BALANCE - on the feet, on the hands, in all vectors and shapes, in tilting reflexes or in righting reflexes
SPEED - most of gymnastics elements CANNOT be done without proper speed. We are not talking can be done but WORSE, we are talking CANNOT BE DONE AT ALL
STAMINA - yes, stamina, I've taken a few time elite athletes through a basic gymnastics warm up with proper cadence, just to see them getting nauseated and puky in less than 5 minutes
SELF DOMINANCE - the combination of all the above comes up into the ability to control yourself in changing environments and to great ADAPTABILITY
The elements demonstrated in this clip take 10-15 YEARS to develop and perfect. No other sport or discipline comes close to this. You enter at 4-5-7 years of age and you peak at 18-25. (as a male) Throughout those years you spit blood, sacrifice relationships, suffer and grind your teeth, that is why when I see this, I have nothing but...
ref :https://www.********.com/portal.ido/...16079771839707
06-01-2016, 04:12 PM
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06-01-2016, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By BrocepCurls⏩
"Show me your credentials"The fact that American Football is number 3 on this list instantly disqualifies it as anything to be taken seriously. Lolworthy sport that doesn't require 1/10 the skill of most other major sports
Why should I value your opinion more than a multi-million dollar corporation where their business is sports along with all their employees, journalist, etc.:
http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=degree/bios
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06-01-2016, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Nelly87⏩
Espn is an American corporation that generates revenue from American football. American football is only played in America."Show me your credentials"
Why should I value your opinion more than a multi-million dollar corporation where their business is sports along with all their employees, journalist, etc.:
http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=degree/bios
Why should I value your opinion more than a multi-million dollar corporation where their business is sports along with all their employees, journalist, etc.:
http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=degree/bios
Can't possibly be any bias in their list, right?
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06-01-2016, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscDaddy⏩
Ya - so Boxing is #1. Ice Hockey is #2.Espn is an American corporation that generates revenue from American football. American football is only played in America.
Can't possibly be any bias in their list, right?
Can't possibly be any bias in their list, right?
If true, why wouldn't they put All American major sports at the top ranks? Wouldn't be biased at all huh? Baseball would be #1, Football would be #2.
*Edit- also for your argument to hold weight, they put fukkin "Martial Arts" in front of Nascar. Nascar isn't even listed
Fuk, NASCAR would be top 5 for sure then by your logic.
So you don't have to go digging:
MA: #6
NASCAR: not listed.
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06-01-2016, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By KE19⏩
I usually stay out of these threads because its impossible not to be biased towards your favorite sport, but this is by far the stupidest post I have seen in a while. Hockey is so much more skilled now than it has ever been. The league is so much faster and skilled than it was 10 years ago. Most 4th line guys are young, fast, skilled goal scoring types fighting to prove they are top 6 material. The day of the NHL grinder and tough guy is pretty much coming to an end, each team usually has 1 or 2 players in this role and everyone else is fast. The level of competition is insane. Also "a hockey player wouldnt be able to make a 10ft soccer pass" LMFAO, have you ever even watched a hockey team warm up? They literally spend hours passing around a soccer ball. Not even gonna get into the part about hockey not being creative.Stupidest thing I've read all day, don't try pretend you comprehend a sport you clearly have no basic understanding of. I'm a hard core soccer and hockey fan. I guarantee you no NHL player would be able to make an accurate 10ft soccer pass. Of course anyone can play the game, but the technicality required to actually perform the fundamentals of the soccer are extremely high. The NHL these days is diluted in talent to an extent where it is almost unwatchable. Each team only has one maybe two elite level players if they're lucky. The rest of the roster is filled with a bunch of lower skilled players whose job is to primarily grind it out, get into the corners, and backcheck. In soccer you actually need to have the vision, creativity, and awareness to make that decisisve pass that splits the defenders to create a prime scoring chance. Hockey post 2008 mostly involves players shooting the puck in from the blue line hoping for the goalie to spill it or get a defection of a skate or stick. The level of creativity in hockey is not even remotely close to soccer.
Im not even taking away from soccer, I agree that it takes tons of talent to play at the highest level, like any other sport, just your points on hockey are so far from the truth it was hard to read.
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Hockey. I've played competitively my whole life and I still suck.
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Baseball and it's not even up for debate.
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Originally Posted By Karlsson65⏩
Not trying to argue that hockey is fast, but going at a faster pace doesn't necessarily mean the skill required to play it is higher. Can you honestly sit through a neutral NHL game in the regular season? The league needs to contract the number of teams in the league by at least 10 to have some semblance of an entertaining product. Yes players are younger now, but that's only because they're a lot cheaper on their ELC's than some journeyman stopgap, half the game spent dumping and chasing the puck, with coaches allowing little room for players to show what they've actually got, a youngster gets caught taking a risk on a 2 on 1 and gets burnt he's probably a healthy scratch for the next few games. This in turn leads to a very bland style of hockey conducive to teams sitting backing and hoping to take the game in to OT.I usually stay out of these threads because its impossible not to be biased towards your favorite sport, but this is by far the stupidest post I have seen in a while. Hockey is so much more skilled now than it has ever been. The league is so much faster and skilled than it was 10 years ago. Most 4th line guys are young, fast, skilled goal scoring types fighting to prove they are top 6 material. The day of the NHL grinder and tough guy is pretty much coming to an end, each team usually has 1 or 2 players in this role and everyone else is fast. The level of competition is insane. Also "a hockey player wouldnt be able to make a 10ft soccer pass" LMFAO, have you ever even watched a hockey team warm up? They literally spend hours passing around a soccer ball. Not even gonna get into the part about hockey not being creative.
Im not even taking away from soccer, I agree that it takes tons of talent to play at the highest level, like any other sport, just your points on hockey are so far from the truth it was hard to read.
Im not even taking away from soccer, I agree that it takes tons of talent to play at the highest level, like any other sport, just your points on hockey are so far from the truth it was hard to read.
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Originally Posted By KE19⏩
Fair enough I can agree that trap systems and the style of play right now isn't always the most exciting. And I also agree that young players have very little room to make mistakes before being disciplined, but this is kinda proving the point. If you make a mistake the other team is almost guaranteed to make you pay for it. This is because the level of skill in the league is just so high, that you cant make a mistake anymore without costing your team. But at any rate, this thread is about skill not entertainment value.Not trying to argue that hockey is fast, but going at a faster pace doesn't necessarily mean the skill required to play it is higher. Can you honestly sit through a neutral NHL game in the regular season? The league needs to contract the number of teams in the league by at least 10 to have some semblance of an entertaining product. Yes players are younger now, but that's only because they're a lot cheaper on their ELC's than some journeyman stopgap, half the game spent dumping and chasing the puck, with coaches allowing little room for players to show what they've actually got, a youngster gets caught taking a risk on a 2 on 1 and gets burnt he's probably a healthy scratch for the next few games. This in turn leads to a very bland style of hockey conducive to teams sitting backing and hoping to take the game in to OT.
And on the note of not watching a neutral game of hockey without being bored, I can't watch a neutral regular season game of any sport without being bored
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Originally Posted By KE19⏩
The amount of skill in the NHL is higher than its ever been right now. What is making the game look slow and boring is not the amount of skill or the players, but the current rules and defensive structures. The two biggest advances in hockey in the last 20-30 years has been in a shift to team/5-man defense (think neutral zone trap) and goaltenders with massive pads coupled with the butterfly style. Watch videos from the 80s or before, not only were goalies pads smaller, but they were all stand-up style. I can't tell you how many highlight videos I've seen where I think "no way that shot scores against today's goalies".Not trying to argue that hockey is fast, but going at a faster pace doesn't necessarily mean the skill required to play it is higher. Can you honestly sit through a neutral NHL game in the regular season? The league needs to contract the number of teams in the league by at least 10 to have some semblance of an entertaining product. Yes players are younger now, but that's only because they're a lot cheaper on their ELC's than some journeyman stopgap, half the game spent dumping and chasing the puck, with coaches allowing little room for players to show what they've actually got, a youngster gets caught taking a risk on a 2 on 1 and gets burnt he's probably a healthy scratch for the next few games. This in turn leads to a very bland style of hockey conducive to teams sitting backing and hoping to take the game in to OT.
The other big part as I said is the rules. We are in the return of the dead-puck-era clutch-and-grab and interference. Players get away with holding, hooking and interference left and right. LA pretty much won 2 stanley cups doing this.
The question is, how do we fix it? Make some defensive structures illegal? Smaller pads and/or bigger goals? Actually call penalties?
As far as the OP's question, I think that espn link was pretty good actually. I question putting flexibility and nerves at the same weight as strength, agility, hand-eye, analytic, etc, but even if you weight those in half, the list remains nearly the same. I've played a ton of sports, many at competitive level, and I would say the two hardest/most training and skill needed are ice hockey and competitive fighting/martial arts.
P.S. Deflecting a slapshot is harder than hitting a fastball. Slapshots are about the same speed, or faster than a fastball, black, oddly shaped, from closer range, and you are trying to accurately hit it just slightly to change the trajectory. I went to a pitching machine not long ago and the max it could go was 85mph, I managed to connect with 80-90% of the balls, maybe half were solid and back at the machine. And I haven't played baseball in years.
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Baseball (hitting) and it's not up for debate. Lol @ anyone who says kicking a soccer ball takes skill.
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Originally Posted By Karlsson65⏩
beat me to it.I usually stay out of these threads because its impossible not to be biased towards your favorite sport, but this is by far the stupidest post I have seen in a while. Hockey is so much more skilled now than it has ever been. The league is so much faster and skilled than it was 10 years ago. Most 4th line guys are young, fast, skilled goal scoring types fighting to prove they are top 6 material. The day of the NHL grinder and tough guy is pretty much coming to an end, each team usually has 1 or 2 players in this role and everyone else is fast. The level of competition is insane. Also "a hockey player wouldnt be able to make a 10ft soccer pass" LMFAO, have you ever even watched a hockey team warm up? They literally spend hours passing around a soccer hall.
brb teams playing keep away with a soccer ball without letting it touch the ground.
having played both, hockey is a hi tech version of footall and soccer combined. given the expense and the extreme competition to get in the pro leagues, it hard to get started and stay successful.
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Pretty much any truly competitive fighting sport.
Boxing, MMA.
They don't demand training from a young age, but they demand peak athletic condition in all forms, as well as perfect technique. And generally good genetics/constitution.
Boxing, MMA.
They don't demand training from a young age, but they demand peak athletic condition in all forms, as well as perfect technique. And generally good genetics/constitution.
06-02-2016, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscDaddy⏩
For some gymnastics skills that is true, and for some gymnastics skills that is not true.Gymnastics is the one sport where it is an advantage to be a manlet. That disqualifies it from this discussion.
A guy won a gold medal in gymnastics at the 2012 olympics, and he is 5'11. Not super tall, but not a manlet either.
Gymnastics is so much harder than any other sport posted here.
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Originally Posted By Chairman7w⏩
Same goes with any sport you muppet.Golf.
Pro golfers are so much head & shoulders above regular golfers that it's not even the same thing.
Golf.
Pro golfers are so much head & shoulders above regular golfers that it's not even the same thing.
Golf.
You try and play 1 vs 1 against an NBA player, it would be destruction. Same with soccer. Same with baseball. Same with everything.
The only difference between golf and these sports is that you don't get embrassed directly, only by points.
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Hockey by far of those three OP mentioned. Anyone can do those other things at least at a recreational level. A LOT of people can't even skate and even less can skate well enough to play hockey. And that's before you even get into the actual game skills.
As to the hardest of all sports, probably ultra-marathons where they run 50 to 100 miles. brb 240 mile racehttps://gearjunkie.com/run-across-haiti-film
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I am here to settle this debate.
The hardest sport -- by miles and miles -- is none other than being a Russian dude who does backflips on poles on the top of skyscrapers and other chit like this:
Not close at all.
Runner-ups would be skateboarding, parcour, paragliding, etc. These are sports an average bystander can't even begin to perform.
The hardest sport -- by miles and miles -- is none other than being a Russian dude who does backflips on poles on the top of skyscrapers and other chit like this:
Not close at all.
Runner-ups would be skateboarding, parcour, paragliding, etc. These are sports an average bystander can't even begin to perform.
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Sorry, but golf is the hardest sport I've personally tried to get good at. *******s on TV make it look easy. I've been playing for about 6 years, and I'm barely above average. Which I find crazy, because I was a natural stud at soccer and baseball and basketball and street hockey.
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06-02-2016, 07:24 AM
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I have played football since childhood and it is nowhere that "hard". All you need is the endurance, shooting and the passing that's it. Skills are the not the first priority and you will get to the part easily once you play often.
Hockey is in the middle between.
Baseball is way too hard because you never know how fast pitchers throw and misses are pain in the ass.
Footbal > Hockey > Baseball.
Hockey is in the middle between.
Baseball is way too hard because you never know how fast pitchers throw and misses are pain in the ass.
Footbal > Hockey > Baseball.
06-02-2016, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted By codsterlaing95⏩
talk when you can do thisBaseball (hitting) and it's not up for debate. Lol @ anyone who says kicking a soccer ball takes skill.
i guarantee you couldn't even kick the ball in the air properly let alone stop it dead like that
lmao @ poverty american sports like gridiron and basketball where the main focus is on the physical attributes and ability not the mechanical skills, simple sports for simple people, feel sorry for anyone who follows those sports
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Originally Posted By 5u8human⏩
Obviously becoming a professional is hard. However, anybody can go out in the street and play a pick up game of soccer. It's not that hard to be able to at least play a friendly game. Try that with hockey and a hell of a lot less people can even actually play the game let alone be any good. Thus hockey is harder.i guarantee you couldn't even kick the ball in the air properly let alone stop it dead like that
lmao @ poverty american sports like gridiron and basketball where the main focus is on the physical attributes and ability not the mechanical skills, simple sports for simple people, feel sorry for anyone who follows those sports
lmao @ poverty american sports like gridiron and basketball where the main focus is on the physical attributes and ability not the mechanical skills, simple sports for simple people, feel sorry for anyone who follows those sports
I'm not saying one is better than the other. Because that is up to the individual, but hockey is harder than those other sports. I don't even play or really care about hockey. The sports I actually like aren't the hardest to play - powerlifting, American football, obstacle course racing.
So many people ITT seem to not be able to differentiate the 'hardest' with their favorite sports. Take emotions out of it *******s and talk about the skills. Your favorite or most exciting sport to you may not be hard to fukkin play; it's OK you can still like it.
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06-02-2016, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted By scullin⏩
dude, i never said anything about hockey in my post, i agree it's a hard sport but not as much as soccer, the only difficult aspect of it is learning to skate i would imagine, i played hockey albeit with rollers on concrete all the time when i was growing up (mighty ducks LOL), not that hard to handle the stick and control the puck because after all your using your hands whereas in soccer you have master control of the ball with your feetObviously becoming a professional is hard. However, anybody can go out in the street and play a pick up game of soccer. It's not that hard to be able to at least play a friendly game. Try that with hockey and a hell of a lot less people can even actually play the game let alone be any good. Thus hockey is harder.
I'm not saying one is better than the other. Because that is up to the individual, but hockey is harder than those other sports. I don't even play or really care about hockey. The sports I actually like aren't the hardest to play - powerlifting, American football, obstacle course racing.
So many people ITT seem to not be able to differentiate the 'hardest' with their favorite sports. Take emotions out of it *******s and talk about the skills. Your favorite or most exciting sport to you may not be hard to fukkin play; it's OK you can still like it.
I'm not saying one is better than the other. Because that is up to the individual, but hockey is harder than those other sports. I don't even play or really care about hockey. The sports I actually like aren't the hardest to play - powerlifting, American football, obstacle course racing.
So many people ITT seem to not be able to differentiate the 'hardest' with their favorite sports. Take emotions out of it *******s and talk about the skills. Your favorite or most exciting sport to you may not be hard to fukkin play; it's OK you can still like it.
i actually think the batting component of baseball takes the most skill out of all the sports mentioned in op since they're pinging 90mph balls @ you but the throwing and catching with mitts not so impressive so overall soccer is the hardest to play
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