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post 1445842813 06-04-2016, 10:20 AM
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Not suprised he didn't want to fight for a country that oppressed him and his people.

As always when any icon dies the misc has to throw **** at someone when the body is still warm.
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Originally Posted By Gnocchi
When your country asks you to fight, you fight, not flee.

It doesn't matter what the war was or wasn't. The United States told you, hey, time to go to war. You grab your chit and go fight for your country.

That's my belief.
You can't be serious with that yes-man mentality, better get off your knees after dick sucking the government and authority. Based on your ideas we would have been extinct by now.
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Don't usually wish death on people but I am glad this scumbag is gone.

And wouldn't trust anyone who isn't.
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Originally Posted By Swept
Some of you cucks are complete idiots. Ali grew up in a racist time, of course wasn't going think highly of white people. He was ridiculed like crazy.




He did change his views later in life
Racism doesn't justify racism. He was every bit as bad as the inbred whites who taunted him. His connections to racist extremists don't make him look any better. One of my favourite economists, Thomas Sowell, also grew up in racist 60s America and yet he has the intellect to rise above all the bull**** Ali preached.
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Originally Posted By spamy
You can't be serious with that yes-man mentality, better get off your knees after dick sucking the government and authority. Based on your ideas we would have been extinct by now.
Based on your ideas we'd still be in the Third Reich.
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Originally Posted By nzgs
Racism doesn't justify racism. He was every bit as bad as the inbred whites who taunted him. His connections to racist extremists don't make him look any better. One of my favourite economists, Thomas Sowell, also grew up in racist 60s America and yet he has the intellect to rise above all the bull**** Ali preached.
black and yellow people fighting for their human rights is what stopped the blatant racism. he wasn't as racist wtf not sure where you got that from. no one was as racist as white america. they literally posted signs saying "no n******" "no chinese allowed" "no yellows, no blacks" "no mexicans" "no colored" etc. back in the day. they had different rooms and places for white and colored people. ali stood up for all minorities.



u ever see ali make signs like these, *******?
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Originally Posted By nzgs
Racism doesn't justify racism.He was every bit as bad as the inbred whites who taunted him.His connections to racist extremists don't make him look any better. One of my favourite economists, Thomas Sowell, also grew up in racist 60s America and yet he has the intellect to rise above all the bull**** Ali preached.
Fukkin lmao
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Originally Posted By MgtowBrah
Not going to condemn a black man for hating white people in 1960s America. Sorry. Can't blame him one bit given the climate of the country at the time

He's cooled off since then. Even allowed his daughter to marry a white guy
This. Blacks were 2nd class citizens back then. Segregated schools. Segregated restaurants and washrooms. OPEN, BLATANT racism on the daily.... Just lol @ miscers ITT pretending that today's racial climate and the one in the 1960's were even close to the same.

Look at the number of miscers here who straight up HATE women.... just for ignoring them.

Now imagine what that would be like taken about 100 notches higher.
Originally Posted By American
Don't usually wish death on people but I am glad this scumbag is gone.

And wouldn't trust anyone who isn't.
Strong username to post content.

Oh and.... negged.
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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY
Okay, so take away that line of the quote....you still have an issue with him. If he's opposed to going to war, as an American, he has a right to voice that and stand on it. You can't just draft someone and expect them to be all honky dory about WAR, not recess, WAR, and get on the bus like, "Ready for boot camp.....where's my rifle?". Really?

The problem with the draft is those who were doing it weren't going themselves, nor would they ever. No one WANTS to put their life on the line for some sh** that has nothing to do with him. Does that make sense to you?

If the draft happened right now, do you understand the amount of people that wouldn't go? Exactly. Some sh** that was already brewing has gotten to the pointerview where regular sign-ups aren't cutting it, so you want to try and tell me I'm GOING to fight. Lol, laughable. Give me 3 hots and a cot....I won't fight a war that isn't mine. No man should. The expectation that he should makes you, not you personally, speaking in general, look the fool.

Period.
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post 1445845493 06-04-2016, 10:45 AM
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I respected the guy as an athlete. He was also the greatest self promoter in the history of sport. Could cut a promo that would have you bashing your grandmother for $5 to get a ticket.
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post 1445845583 06-04-2016, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking
This. Blacks were 2nd class citizens back then. Segregated schools. Segregated restaurants and washrooms. OPEN, BLATANT racism on the daily.... Just lol @ miscers ITT pretending that today's racial climate and the one in the 1960's were even close to the same.

Look at the number of miscers here who straight up HATE women.... just for ignoring them.

Now imagine what that would be like taken about 100 notches higher.



Strong username to post content.

Oh and.... negged.
Of course, the irony being that segregation is exactly what the Nation of Islam wanted..not to mention keeping women at home and covered up.
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Originally Posted By DGen94
i dont get why people care so much about celebrities
I guess that's how our society is nowadays. Back in the 1940s, you'd never see any press media about the life of Humphrey Bogart. The emphasis was mainly on war and primarily focused on what could affect the lives of many people. Muhammad Ali was a great influence in sports, but not everyone is a fan of sports nor is it even important: it's merely entertainment. However, his resistance to the draft is something that is important. That's something that could affect men today if a draft were to ever occur.
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Dodging Vietnam isn't a bad thing.

That war was total bull**** placated on bull**** and lies.

Racism was _very_ real in Clay's time. So, you tend to spur radicalism when you're radical against a peaceful population.

People act like we didn't have separate but equal bi-laws and jim crow.
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Originally Posted By Gnocchi
When your country asks you to fight, you fight, not flee.

It doesn't matter what the war was or wasn't. The United States told you, hey, time to go to war. You grab your chit and go fight for your country.

That's my belief.

I also understand race issues were much different then, but the Malcom X ideology is akin to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson with violence. It does nothing but destroy race relations and invoke racism.
Quoting so people can see how stupid this racist inbred is.
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I honestly thought the whole Misc racist thing was just a joke and what not, but some you kunts have some serious built up hate. Go out and there and not dwell in your basement posting rubbish.
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Originally Posted By American
Based on your ideas we'd still be in the Third Reich.
lol at comparing a world war to invading a small country just for the sake of it. If more Germans would have opposed the Nazi regime the absurd Third Reich ideas wouldn't have taken off, but keep rolling your logical fallacies.
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Originally Posted By bezarker






"You my opposer when I want freedom. You won't even won't stand up for me for at home"

THE GOAT
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking
This. Blacks were 2nd class citizens back then. Segregated schools. Segregated restaurants and washrooms. OPEN, BLATANT racism on the daily.... Just lol @ miscers ITT pretending that today's racial climate and the one in the 1960's were even close to the same.

Look at the number of miscers here who straight up HATE women.... just for ignoring them.

Now imagine what that would be like taken about 100 notches higher.



Strong username to post content.

Oh and.... negged.
Cool story cuck. This guy wanted you and your parents dead.

Just lol at the cuckoldry. I'd piss on his corpse just as a lot of people would mine.
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Originally Posted By jbball92
ITT it is now acceptable to be a member of the terrorist NOI


just lmfao
You mean like the church bombings they did in the south? Oh wait that was the KKK
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Originally Posted By jimmyjabbar
You dont have to be a saint to be celebrated. Ali had his faults but he was a cultural icon who stood up for his beliefs.
The thing is people forget is that he never claimed to be perfect. He strived to be a better person. He stated that only God / Allah can be the judge of good or bad.

But like any human we have our good and bad side.
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Originally Posted By sword_
You mean like the church bombings they did in the south? Oh wait that was the KKK
this has nothing to do with the what i said lmfao.
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BTW you guys realize Elon Musk dodged enlistment by fleeing his country of South Africa but you don't hear *******s crying over that
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Originally Posted By jbball92
this has nothing to do with the what i said lmfao.
NOI is flawed but aren't domestic terrorists and not like many white equivalents
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Originally Posted By DGen94
i dont get why people care so much about celebrities
I do think it can get a little silly, but to be fair I think Muhammad Ali is quite different from 99.9x% of "celebrities" in terms of America's history. Ali IS an icon that will forever be ingrained as a significant historical figure in America's history. Comparing him with Paul Walker is fuking retarded.

I mean the guy has a fuking 100,000 sq ft museum dedicated to him...
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Originally Posted By FAH_Q
I have a problem with him or anyone trying to dodge the war. This is the country you live in. Don't care what pathetic reasons you have. I woulda just shipped his azz to some other country and banned him from the U.S. He could've kept the title belt for all i care though. But he wouldn't ever step foot on US soil for a fight or for any other reason.

Regardless, he was still arguably the greatest boxer of all time and one of the greatest athletes of any sport of all time so he deserves the recognition.





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Originally Posted By American
Don't usually wish death on people but I am glad this scumbag is gone.

And wouldn't trust anyone who isn't.
Originally Posted By American
Cool story cuck. This guy wanted you and your parents dead.

Just lol at the cuckoldry. I'd piss on his corpse just as a lot of people would mine.
You are so cool
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He gets his nationally covered ceremony because he was black and so i obama. If it were a white president, i'm sure a nationally covered address and eulogy would have happened, but not a national ceremony. when it comes down to it, he was a boxer that spoke out against segregation and whatnot.

ceremony vs Address.

-10 military personell died this week and they get a footnote
-1 boxer dies and gets a national ceremony

but lets not get this twisted. he deserves praise, but not a ceremony that the greatest war hero (that was never president) wouldnt have recieved.
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Originally Posted By wildchild11
You are so cool
Yea well at least I got something in common with the GOAT in that I'm real af. I do mire the guy's cojones but he was a liar and damaged my country.

Lol at getting negged for racism itt. Is that hypocritical or what? Stupid punks that's like someone negging you for negging me for being critical of a racist.

You are all legit stupid and I don't trust you.
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He risked his own life to help free U.S hostages.
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