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post 1446518053 06-08-2016, 06:18 AM
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I went from hating cops, to being on their side, to being a military cop, now I'm starting to hate cops again. Mostly because I work with them often and realize how many of them are fukking morons.
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shoulda just got out of the car. but nooooo want to be a combative douche' instead. cops are people to and prone to the same weaknesses we all are. no excuse for the excessive force but it's kinda like poking a bear. what did the kid think> "If I keep asking him if I'm under arrest maybe he'll just let me go.".
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger⏩
Meh, I'd probably shoot someone if they had a knife and attacked me in 9/10 scenarios. (probably not if the guy was obviously slow and weak for whatever reason)

That being said, the standards for being hired in the US are EXTREMELY low. No college degree required, no mma experience, no cardio, no strength training, no real weapons handling skills, no intensive training on how to deal with mentally ill people, etc. The entire police academy training program across the US needs to be started from scratch.

Some sort of psychology background, criminal justice background, motor development background should be required in a 2 year program to get into the academy. Basically an AA in how to deal with people with all sorts of different issues. On top of that, strict PT standards during those 2 years with defensive tactics (real defensive tactics, not the absolute **** they teach now) at least 2x a week. Firing 100 rounds and you can graduate and become a cop? Nope, training courses that build upon previous courses during those 2 years as well and if you fail any of them you get 1 retry and then you're out.

Of course that would never fly because half the fat-asses who make it through would fail miserably. Such is life though. I'd rather have 5 police officers in a town that can handle 99% of situations than 10 police officers that can handle 50% of situations.
Don't talk about things you obviously don't know about.

You say you are from California. California has universal standards for the police academy that every academy (and every peace officer) has to follow. By the time you are done in the academy, you basically have an AA (not much, but something). Why do you need MMA experience? They teach you plenty of self defense tactics and arrest and control tactics (about 2x a week over the course of a 6 month academy, as you suggest). There is always a physical conditioning program, there is always training on dealing with the mentally ill. Most academies will have you shoot around 1,000 rounds, with a lot of academies using more than that. There is ALWAYS a psych background check as well. And that's just to enter the training program at the department and be put on a year or training/probation, like you suggest.

It's just impossible to make everything perfect. It's impossible to make sure every officer is a perfect person. They psych test you, look into your background for months, polygraph you, interview you 3-4 times. There is always going to be the human error factor. There cannot be a perfect system. It needs improvement sure, but it's no where near what you suggest.




Obviously not trying to justify this officer's actions and I'm not saying all police officers are perfect or even good people. But there is a system in place and it does work at weeding out more bad apples than a lot of people realize. No system is perfect though and obviously people slip through the cracks.
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Originally Posted By badlasagna⏩
why do people still think its a good idea to not listen to a cop when you know you have warrants
The stop apparently was based on a mistaken warrant connected to the license plate of the car he was driving. Cop claims he smelled weed as well.
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What blows my mind is that the local authorities thought he did nothing wrong and did not choose to prosecute him. I'm sure this video was seen by them and they felt no crime was committed by the cop. Luckily, the Justice Dept stepped in with their investigation and brought charges against the guy.
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probably dropped the kid on his face because so many people fake injuries to try and get out of the charge.
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Originally Posted By AgRyan⏩
Don't talk about things you obviously don't know about.

You say you are from California. California has universal standards for the police academy that every academy (and every peace officer) has to follow. By the time you are done in the academy, you basically have an AA (not much, but something). Why do you need MMA experience? They teach you plenty of self defense tactics and arrest and control tactics (about 2x a week over the course of a 6 month academy, as you suggest). There is always a physical conditioning program, there is always training on dealing with the mentally ill. Most academies will have you shoot around 1,000 rounds, with a lot of academies using more than that. There is ALWAYS a psych background check as well. And that's just to enter the training program at the department and be put on a year or training/probation, like you suggest.

It's just impossible to make everything perfect. It's impossible to make sure every officer is a perfect person. They psych test you, look into your background for months, polygraph you, interview you 3-4 times. There is always going to be the human error factor. There cannot be a perfect system. It needs improvement sure, but it's no where near what you suggest.




Obviously not trying to justify this officer's actions and I'm not saying all police officers are perfect or even good people. But there is a system in place and it does work at weeding out more bad apples than a lot of people realize. No system is perfect though and obviously people slip through the cracks.
It's amazing that people such as yourself can literally make **** up over the internet and expect those of us with average intelligence levels to believe it.

It's not my fault that you want to lie but if you're going to do it in the future, do a better job. I live with cops, I spent the last 3 years working with cops and I'm very familiar with the standards for becoming a cop. Everything you said is basically wrong and you're an idiot if you think the defensive tactics they teach in the academy are anything other than right from the 1970's handbook. Go find the goddamn standards and look at them yourself if you don't believe me. I have a close friend who teaches DT in the academy for the very reason that no one knows what the fck they're doing and he came in to basically save the day with all the local departments. It's mind blowing how little these fat slobs know when they get done with academy. It's also mind blowing hot little PT they do, how little they shoot, how little pretty much everything. I've seen some of these cocksuckers who don't even know the basics of a handgun make it through the academy because the standards are so low. It's a 6 month academy and you don't need to know **** going in. When half of the 6 months is memorizing worthless arrest/radio codes then you know it's a waste. You can look that **** up on your phone but you can't look up signs of mental disorders with certain populations. That is the basis of a psychology study and the people who have the most contact with psych patients (police) have less training than damn near anyone with it.

So if you want to make **** up, do it on your own time and don't come in here and try to convince people of anything other than how goddamn stupid you are. The standards in the US for becoming a cop are a fcking joke. Absolute truth. Deal with it.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
probably dropped the kid on his face because so many people fake injuries to try and get out of the charge.
or he knew how hilarious this would look on camera.
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You can just tell that cap was a full on KUNT by the way he walked to the car. A bizarre superiority complex demonstrated by his massive overreaction. Hope the piece of chit gets what's coming to him.
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Any white people want to burn down that city and riot with me? We have been oppressed by the police for too long! White lives matter!
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lol at people caping for the cop. "This kid had the nerve to ask why he was being arrested! Fuk him!" I can't take you clowns seriously.

Some cops really get the badge just so they can power trip. This cop is a little dikhead and you can tell straightaway.
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Just makes the population hate cops even more. A dude here on the misc just quit the LEO life, find another career boyos. It's only getting worse. Everyone will hate you and you are grouped in with morons like the cop in vid.

If I was this kids family I would hire Dexter to take "care" of this cop.
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Holy ****ing shiiiett why was he not charged with attempted murder when he tossed the kid head first on to concrete???
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
shoulda just got out of the car. but nooooo want to be a combative douche' instead. cops are people to and prone to the same weaknesses we all are. no excuse for the excessive force but it's kinda like poking a bear. what did the kid think> "If I keep asking him if I'm under arrest maybe he'll just let me go.".
You are a ****ing retard, he stop was not justified, he had no reason to remove the kid from the vehicle. He says he couldn't hear the kid when you can hear the kid plainly on video. He tased him 4 times longer than procedure, then throws the incapacitated kid head first on to concrete.
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wow I was legitimately disturbed by this video. I was hoping 10+ years, but how sad is America that I'm just happy he got any jail time at all? (4 years)
Originally Posted By harmsxwhey⏩
I went from hating cops, to being on their side, to being a military cop, now I'm starting to hate cops again. Mostly because I work with them often and realize how many of them are fukking morons.
How about you stop judging a group of thousands of different people as one collective? It's the same lazy ignorant garbage as racism. Not all cops are the same you goof

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At first when they were all being uncooperative kunts I was kinda glad to see him get tazered but then I saw the cop pick him up unconscious with cuffs on and drop him hard onto his face and was like got dam. It was like the cop decided the boys life was alrdy forfeit at that point for not complying, kinda scary
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
You are a ****ing retard, he stop was not justified, he had no reason to remove the kid from the vehicle. He says he couldn't hear the kid when you can hear the kid plainly on video. He tased him 4 times longer than procedure, then throws the incapacitated kid head first on to concrete.
kid gets out of car none of this happens.
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Originally Posted By BearTactics⏩
Any white people want to burn down that city and riot with me? We have been oppressed by the police for too long! White lives matter!


maybe the mayor will tell the cops to just let us riot and Joe Biden will say, "if I had a boy it'd look like him". oh wait....
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Lol another piece of **** American cop. I agree a lot of cops you guys have are good guys but what training do they have to go through if they give kunts like this a pistol
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
kid gets out of car none of this happens.
He had the right to know why he was being asked to get out of his car... the cop didn't do anything right. The cop should have said, "You have an outstanding warrant for a traffic violation... yadda yadda."

Really the kid didn't even need to leave the car... the cop should have asked for his driver's license to confirm he had the right kid.

Cop got 4 years, deserved like 10.. but either way, his life is ruined so at least there's some justice there

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The TASER stopped the guy's heart within a few seconds.

TASERs have killed thousands of people and should no longer be used.

TASER Corp should be put out of business, should have successfully been sued at least hundreds of time ... but they have mega money from the deadly product and are using some of it to bribe large numbers of legislators, judges, and others to support their product and dismiss lawsuits and legislation.


If you're a cop, realize that everytime you deploy a TASER, you're tempting fate and risk killing a person.

They are being used way way way too often in situations they should not be.They are IN FACT a 'less-lethal' option but are being used as a non-lethal one.They should ONLY be used in situations that are at or getting close to the use of lethal force; only as an alternative to the use of a firearm.
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This guy isn't a cop.

He's a criminal.

You can't paint all cops with the same brush.

That said I hope this ******* runs into some vigilante justice in prison.
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Obviously the cop was wrong and deserves to serve time.

But, if after reading the story about the kid, you don't think he was an entitled little sh*t you are lying to yourself.
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Originally Posted By Mumra⏩
probably dropped the kid on his face because so many people fake injuries to try and get out of the charge.
Doesn't justify dropping someone (even faking it) face first onto the concrete. Brb broken teeth, broken jaw, concussion, broken nose, and more.
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Originally Posted By Postmort3m⏩
Obviously the cop was wrong and deserves to serve time.

But, if after reading the story about the kid, you don't think he was an entitled little sh*t you are lying to yourself.
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Originally Posted By Postmort3m⏩
Obviously the cop was wrong and deserves to serve time.

But, if after reading the story about the kid, you don't think he was an entitled little sh*t you are lying to yourself.
The kid has nothing to do with the cops actions man, the cop should handle every situation the same. You can't lose your **** because you are dealing with an entitled kid.
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Originally Posted By BearTactics⏩
Any white people want to burn down that city and riot with me? We have been oppressed by the police for too long! White lives matter!
Kinda. These cases should get more attention. The attention actually shouldn't be on fuking skin colour but on the police forces requirements to become a cop.

Even in Canada I've seen cops punch my friends in the face for making a cheeky comment.

Police should remain calm at all time. "Bbuuuuttt.... they're humans and have a tough job" if you can't handle it, don't be a cop. Simple as that.
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lol cops gonna cop.

Why would anyone choose this profession anyways. The only people that choose to become cops after finishing school are the bottom feeding trash who couldn't succeed in academics.
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