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post 1447069193 06-11-2016, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted By dennisquaidbrah⏩
The fact of the matter is that Britain was using firearms in war over 100 years before the US was independent, and yet we as a country accept and recognise that, given the advances in firearms in the last century, citizens arming themselves to the teeth is going to create far more problems than it ever solves. Just my two cents guys.
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post 1447069323 06-11-2016, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
Majority of Americans are German..
youre a fooking idiot mate
post 1447069673 06-11-2016, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By VocelLoser⏩
Majority of Americans are German..
This is not quite right and has been written about various times. On many ethnic surveys you would have high amounts of people self identify as being of German and Irish descent. There would be less people that identified as being of British origin. But there would be a chit ton of people identifying as "American." Who were these Americans? People who had been here so long that they identify as Americans. These people are usually of British origin. there are more of these people than people of German descent.

Edit:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Americans

In the above link if you add up the people who self identify as being of American, English, Scottish and North Irish descent, you will find more people of abritish origin than German. Also many people self identify as GermN because of one German relative. My wife always thought she was primarily German, but is mostly of WASP descent. This is a common misconception.
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post 1447069723 06-11-2016, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By KeepinItReal16⏩
youre a fooking idiot mate
You've got eyes mate, how about you use them. Majority of white Americans are of German ancestry.
post 1447069803 06-11-2016, 07:01 AM
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post 1447070283 06-11-2016, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
How can you be this potato?

The advantage of a gun is that you can avoid having to physically touch your target. When you're assassinating someone, this is irrelevant, because you have the element of surprise on your side.
No chit? That is exactly what I am saying. My argument is a sarcastic response.
He was saying that she would have died anyway if there was a knife involved. So I'm saying he should put himself in that scenario then. If knives are just as deadly, you can protect yourself with one.
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post 1447070463 06-11-2016, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted By rjones416⏩
do they not have metal detectors at the venue?
Many of them don't
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post 1447070703 06-11-2016, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted By legendofzelbrah⏩
**** off with your potato logic. It would have been stopped. Your people are no different than everybody else in the world and you're not gods little special people, so take responsibility and recognise, you ****ing cuck.
See below.
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The gun wasn't allowed into the concert, yet someone took it in there. It's almost like they didn't care about the rules.
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post 1447070733 06-11-2016, 07:12 AM
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As a fellow Brit, I feel I should apologise for the OP's ignorance. He isn't aware that American shootings almost without exception occur in gun-free zones. It's the very act of disarming people that creates the possibility for mass shootings, as we commonly see shooters going out of their way to target specific gun free zones like schools, malls, army bases, cinemas.
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Originally Posted By legendofzelbrah⏩
No chit? That is exactly what I am saying. My argument is a sarcastic response.
He was saying that she would have died anyway if there was a knife involved. So I'm saying he should put himself in that scenario then. If knives are just as deadly, you can protect yourself with one.
Again....he is not saying knives are just as deadly. He is saying if someone wants to kill someone they can accomplish it with a knife. Being someone who lives in a country where a serviceman got decapitated in the middle of a busy street I would think you'd understand this concept.
post 1447070863 06-11-2016, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted By legendofzelbrah⏩
No chit? That is exactly what I am saying. My argument is a sarcastic response.
He was saying that she would have died anyway if there was a knife involved. So I'm saying he should put himself in that scenario then. If knives are just as deadly, you can protect yourself with one.
No, you derp, I'm pointing out that a gun has massive advantages for defensive use over a knife and few advantages for offensive use.

Edit: this is also why an AR15 is a much better weapon for home defense than a pistol, but not a much better weapon for a mass shooting.
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post 1447070993 06-11-2016, 07:15 AM
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Lmao @ snaggle tooth Brits opinions.

Y'all just mad cause a bunch of rednecks with muskets rekt your ass
post 1447071293 06-11-2016, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted By OAHUGROWN808⏩
Lmao @ snaggle tooth Brits opinions.

Y'all just mad cause a bunch of rednecks with muskets rekt your ass
a bunch of frenchies kicked their ass

do you have history over there pineapple picker??
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post 1447071323 06-11-2016, 07:19 AM
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I'm not ignorant (probably a bit pompous) it's just something I can't get my head around. How did a developed country allow firearms to become so widely circulated, easily available and deeply embedded in culture that they will now never go away.
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Originally Posted By Mercworx⏩
If someone wants to murder you banning a tool will not stop them.
It will reduce their chances though. It's much harder to kill someone with a knife than a gun, also it's easier to defend yourself or run from a knife than it is from a gun.
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post 1447071493 06-11-2016, 07:21 AM
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OP, smoking, drinking and driving killed hundreds of millions of people. it doesn't mean that you and I get our cigars, Ardbeg and cars taken away.


PERSONAL responsibility. Someone else doing something is not YOU doing it.
post 1447071503 06-11-2016, 07:21 AM
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lucky she had a gun to protect herself... oh wait

LOL at the protection argument ****ing dumb cnuts
post 1447071573 06-11-2016, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted By SadBoys⏩
It will reduce their chances though. It's much harder to kill someone with a knife than a gun, also it's easier to defend yourself or run from a knife than it is from a gun.
It's also easier to defend yourself with a gun than with a knife.
post 1447071683 06-11-2016, 07:23 AM
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime...-a3224971.html

Sounds like you guys need to ban guns. They found hand guns and ak47's.


http://www.lfpress.com/2016/04/29/ma...own-london-bar

It's illegal to bring a firearm in a bar in the united states.

You guys should considering doing that too
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While I do agree that some reform is necessary (there are absolutely laws that need revisiting and anyone sensible, left or right, can see that), the biggest problem I have with gun reform is this:



But the biggest problem is that no one in the U.S. can come to a healthy compromise.

On the left, you have people who want to take the guns out of law abiding citizens' hands, and on the right you have the NRA types who want every 6 year old to have the right to own an automatic assault rifle or a bazooka. Both sides need to get their heads out of their asses. (This really applies to just about any issue in our country, tbh)
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Originally Posted By Hagakure31⏩
a bunch of frenchies kicked their ass

do you have history over there pineapple picker??
You are all sorts of wrong lol. Try again kiddo

Ouch, what a damaging insult.

You fail at trolling over an Internet bodybuilding forum.
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Originally Posted By ronnie09⏩
lucky she had a gun to protect herself... oh wait

LOL at the protection argument ****ing dumb cnuts
On private property the property owner can demand all guns to be left in the car or at home and can enforce such rules by private security and searches, metal detectors etc. If a person with a gun wants to go in he can either go in without a gun or go home. Take this up with the property owner and organizers of that concert. It has nothing to do with my gun.
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Originally Posted By legendofzelbrah⏩
No chit? That is exactly what I am saying. My argument is a sarcastic response.
He was saying that she would have died anyway if there was a knife involved. So I'm saying he should put himself in that scenario then. If knives are just as deadly, you can protect yourself with one.
Why do you keep ignoring the fact that criminals don't follow the law? Several people have pointed it out, you just keep arguing an inane point about how lethal guns are herp derp, yadda yadda.

A huge number of shootings take place in gun free zones all the time. How in the world could he have shot her if guns weren't permitted at the venue? It's almost as if he didn't give a fuk and smuggled the gun in anyways because he intended to murder somebody.

The federal government could completely BAN guns tomorrow, PERIOD, NO GUNS ANYWHERE, EVER. Guess what? Gun crimes will increase *******, cause criminals are now the only people with access to firearms.
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FUKING LOL the pathetic pussy Brits out shamelessly airing their crippling fears again.

Grown fukin men scared witless by firearms.

Seriously, if you Brits feel that way, don't you think for pride's sake you oughta keep that to yourself? Fukin embarrassing
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If nothing else this thread had educated me as I'd actually never heard of 'gun-free zones'. But this is exactly the point. It's a cultural thing.
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Originally Posted By dennisquaidbrah⏩
If nothing else this thread had educated me as I'd actually never heard of 'gun-free zones'. But this is exactly the point. It's a cultural thing.
Considering we won our independence from your disgusting country with the use of guns, I'd say it's well engrained in our culture
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Originally Posted By kusok⏩
It's also easier to defend yourself with a gun than with a knife.
True, but only if you know you're under threat. Point is, if both of you have a gun, he can kill you from 15-20m, without you even knowing. If both of you carry a knife, he needs to come close, which you can notice and run away. No matter the tool, the attacker has an advantage in any case, so assuming you're a normal person and won't attack another first, is it really worth to make that advantage for your enemy bigger (gun>knife), just so you can have a more effective tool too? Which you won't even get to use anyway if he decides to kill you with a gun.
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Originally Posted By legendofzelbrah⏩
So a gun and a knife are equivalent weapons in terms of how dangerous they are?
They can attack, so that surely means they can protect right ? Why don't you have a knife cabinet then, to protect yourself from that murderer who's out to get your family?

You don't need a gun, knives are just as deadly. This is your argument. Stick with it if you want I guess, but it's a pretty chit one.
This is why we kicked your asses in the past and why you brits are bunch of cucks now. ****ing pussies, same with aussies.

You would disarm free men because bad guys do bad, mental people do mental ****.

300+ millions firearms in America, millions of Americans carry daily, no incidence. A mental person does mental person things and the world wants to ban guns in America.

F-uck you, F-uck your opinion you spineless sniveling little pussy.

You're manlet too, how are you ever going to protect your family, from a step stool bitch?
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Originally Posted By SadBoys⏩
True, but only if you know you're under threat. Point is, if both of you have a gun, he can kill you from 15-20m, without you even knowing. If both of you carry a knife, he needs to come close, which you can notice and run away. No matter the tool, the attacker has an advantage in any case, so assuming you're a normal person and won't attack another first, is it really worth to make that advantage for your enemy bigger (gun>knife), just so you can have a more effective tool too? Which you won't even get to use anyway if he decides to kill you with a gun.
Since criminals get illegal and banned guns anyway, yes, it's worth it to arm yourself with a gun rather than with a knife.
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Gonna be ironic when the snackbar problem hits the point where you wish you had the means to defend yourself, but can't. You can't make an anti immigration ******** post without facing repercussion lmao. Stick to getting cucked and we'll stick to owning guns.
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