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Thread: 2 year old dragged under water by aligator at Disney World Orlando

post 1447810713 06-15-2016, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Trillical⏩
did the baby survive? srs question
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Originally Posted By LightsXout28c⏩
A few pages back, I saw a photo of children playing on the beach of that Alligator infested lake. No way in hell should that beach be accessible to anyone if theres alligators in the water. The Alligators could also come up on the beach while children are building sandcastles and mess them up. Disney World is partly responsible and should be sued 100%
You have to realize that what you're saying is "there can be no beaches in Florida".

All bodies of water in Florida are likely to contain alligators. It's just the way it is. Ponds at the golf course, etc. People wake up and find alligators snoozing in their backyard pools from time to time.



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Originally Posted By Frank
I can tell you're rustled. Its OK 140 iq brah.
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Originally Posted By Frank
again, the implied danger by the signs is drowning, not alligators.
No, it does not imply drowning either. It simply means, Do Not Enter The Water.

Prohibition symbols have a red circle with a slash on white background with a black pictogram.

This is a perfect example:

One means DO NOT and the other means GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR CHANCES.

Come on fellas, atleast if your gnna argue about something get your facts straight first.

At the end of the day, yes it is the parents fault. They are responsible, they ignored the signs that say DO NOT SWIM.

As a father to a 2 & 3 year old I can't imagine the pain these parents are going through right now. It goes without saying they are responsible, I don't see how anybody thinks Disney will be responsible. They have signs posted that say NO SWIMMING, they do not need to post Beware Alligator signs, although that's not a bad idea seeing as how many gators are around the area.

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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
You have to realize that what you're saying is "there can be no beaches in Florida".

All bodies of water in Florida are likely to contain alligators. It's just the way it is. Ponds at the golf course, etc. People wake up and find alligators snoozing in their backyard pools from time to time.
That is not what he is saying at all and I'm not sure why some of you dont seem to get it (or you're being willfully ignorant). He is saying that on this resort, a place where you pay to stay and expect some level of safety, there should be more precaution to protect the guests from alligators if they are in fact infesting the waters surrounding the hotel. This man made beach is on the property of the hotel there should either be a fence around the lake that sits on its property to keep people out of the water (and gators off the beach) or there should be signs indicating that there are alligators in the water and to stay away from it. A sign saying dont swim due to a steep drop off isn't sufficient to keep people from going near the water. You could be standing on the sand next to it and one of these things could come out and grab you and no warnings at all of what may be in there. I'm not from Florida but have been there a few times and I know there are alligators everywhere but even I would expect a publicly accessible beach and lake on a hotel property to have signs indicating any and ALL dangers.
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Originally Posted By jbball92⏩
ban semi automatic alligators
Yes. A civilian should not be able to go outside and walk into an aligator.
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
I went to Disney World with my dad when I was about 10.

We were at Epcot Center. We went through a door in France and realized there was nothing there. We turned around and came back, and only realized afterwards that the door was clearly marked "Employees Only". LOL, right? Oh, well. Dumb tourists.

I think that's more or less what happened here. It was after sunset, it probably didn't matter what the signs said. The parents just weren't thinking/looking. This time it wasn't an "oh, well, LOL".

It happens. People turn the wrong way down a one-way street because they had a fight with their wife and they're still thinking about it instead of looking at the signs as closely as they should and that's it, CRASH, they're dead. It's still their fault, though.

My guess is that Disney probably WILL close off that area and limit people to the controlled pool areas. That, or they'll at least launch a more aggressive program to try to remove alligators from the area. They already pulled 4, God knows how many more are in there. No doubt, they'll also pay a massive settlement to keep it out of court. That doesn't mean this was their responsibility, though. It just sucks all around.

I travel to Arizona regularly. It's entirely conceivable that if I don't pay attention to where I put my hands and feet on rocky terrain or an area with a lot of shady hiding places, a rattlesnake will bite me. It's rare (as is getting eaten by an alligator), but it happens. If I do dumb things because I'm not paying attention, it's much more likely to happen.
This is a excellent post. This is def. another scenario that could have happened. It isn't always intentional disregard of laws/postings when accidents/mistakes happen. This is just a tragic example, this pains me to even think about.
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post 1447812673 06-15-2016, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Anothersloth⏩
2 year old kids don't learn to swim anywhere, unless ur parents try to drown you.
Mine does. She's been swimming in our pool for a year now.
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Its not common knowledge. I went there this Feb and I learned about the gators while I was there, not before.
Just one thing to say....

It's fcking Florida. It's one of the things the state is known for crying out loud. You've got to be pretty stupid to go to Florida and not know about them.
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Originally Posted By johnnyboi123⏩
it's not uncommon to find alligators in residential areas where there's water in Florida....they must not have known. Kids wander away from parents....
Did you even read the article? The child wandered into shallow water in the Seven Seas lagoon where a "no swimming" sign was placed and the father was said to have been standing near by. The alligator snatched the kid and the father attempted to wrestle the kid back but the alligator prevailed.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
Is this a gator from the park itself or a wild alligator in Florida.

I legit can't tell based on the story
i went to Orlando a few months back, the gators travel to new ponds during the night lol. you can see them walking across streets its crazy
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I thought it was common knowledge that any contact with dihydrogen monoxide is frequently fatal to humans. Signs should just say that.
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Originally Posted By Courwes⏩
That is not what he is saying at all and I'm not sure why some of you dont seem to get it (or you're being willfully ignorant). He is saying that on this resort, a place where you pay to stay and expect some level of safety, there should be more precaution to protect the guests from alligators if they are in fact infesting the waters surrounding the hotel. This man made beach is on the property of the hotel there should either be a fence around the lake that sits on its property to keep people out of the water (and gators off the beach) or there should be signs indicating that there are alligators in the water and to stay away from it. A sign saying dont swim due to a steep drop off isn't sufficient to keep people from going near the water. You could be standing on the sand next to it and one of these things could come out and grab you and no warnings at all of what may be in there. I'm not from Florida but have been there a few times and I know there are alligators everywhere but even I would expect a publicly accessible beach and lake on a hotel property to have signs indicating any and ALL dangers.
Absolutely this.
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Originally Posted By rjones416⏩
god damn florida scary as fuk. if its not a terrorist shooting at you its a fukking gator snatching up your babies.

if they were at a lake they shouldnt have been at then the parents need to be punished.
Punished? As if losing their child and living with it the rest of their lives wasn't enough punishment? GTFO
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Originally Posted By charity4thepoor⏩
Going to Orlando tomorrow. Pray for me brahs.
Against you get shoot buy muslim terrorist or you be eaten by alligator.
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How did the dad even fukkin fail?


If it were my kid I'd be eye gouging the fukk outta the gator and if that failed I'd reach to the back of its mouth - it has some chit that if you grab and pull it starts to drown (srs).



Also RIP alligators that were killed and didn't do anything.. Just like that gorilla
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Originally Posted By Courwes⏩
That is not what he is saying at all and I'm not sure why some of you dont seem to get it (or you're being willfully ignorant). He is saying that on this resort, a place where you pay to stay and expect some level of safety, there should be more precaution to protect the guests from alligators if they are in fact infesting the waters surrounding the hotel. This man made beach is on the property of the hotel there should either be a fence around the lake that sits on its property to keep people out of the water (and gators off the beach) or there should be signs indicating that there are alligators in the water and to stay away from it. A sign saying dont swim due to a steep drop off isn't sufficient to keep people from going near the water. You could be standing on the sand next to it and one of these things could come out and grab you and no warnings at all of what may be in there. I'm not from Florida but have been there a few times and I know there are alligators everywhere but even I would expect a publicly accessible beach and lake on a hotel property to have signs indicating any and ALL dangers.
Taking his statement at face value: "A few pages back, I saw a photo of children playing on the beach of that Alligator infested lake. No way in hell should that beach be accessible to anyone if theres alligators in the water. The Alligators could also come up on the beach while children are building sandcastles and mess them up."

Yes, that's what he said. He didn't say "at a resort where people pay". He said beaches should not be accessible where there are alligators in the water.

The logical conclusion is that we cannot have freshwater beaches in Florida, because those conditions may exist at all of them. You remove them on Friday, there will be more by Monday.

Regardless, your point is not invalid, but I do think it's unrealistic. The fact is that it's an open body of water, man-made or not. It interacts with nature and hosts wildlife, as all lakes and lagoons do. Not only is it not a swimming pool, but it's explicitly marked as not being for swimming. The expectation that all wildlife in it will be friendly and harmless is unreasonable: the resort does not have control over what enters it, and that should be obvious just from looking at it. There's water moccasins, too, poisonous snakes. Does the resort really have to spell out everything that could potentially happen? What if the birds in the lake attract wildcats and the wildcats start eating children? Floods and hurricanes have been known to drop sharks in inland bodies of water. What about sharks? How long is this sign to explain real life going to be beyond what every adult should already know, which is "nature might try to eat you"?
Originally Posted By EatnCleans⏩
This is a excellent post. This is def. another scenario that could have happened. It isn't always intentional disregard of laws/postings when accidents/mistakes happen. This is just a tragic example, this pains me to even think about.
RIP to that sweet innocent little man.
It's absolutely horrible and I can only imagine what they're going through. Frank Drebin is right that it's unfair to bash the parents too hard, at least given the facts as they are. I have no doubt that they gave no thought to the sign and didn't see themselves as doing anything transgressive or risky.
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Originally Posted By thefuturemisc⏩
From FL.

Can confirm gators are ALL OVER. I've seen them snatch pets, get ran over, get shot, I've eaten them, etc. They are alpha as phuck. Like a bear, north. This resort is not going to be at fault. So many ponds and lakes in FL, especially near resorts...and they have plenty of gators. Sry for this young 2yr. and his family. You visited dinosaur land.
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I've been to Disney World and The Grand Floridian numerous times, and I never once thought alligators were in the water. I understand that gators are all over Florida, but I figured that Disney would have somehow taken precautionary measures to prevent them from infesting their man made lakes. At the very least, I am surprised that they have sand with chairs so close to gator infested water. I bet the majority of people who are not from Florida would be shocked to find out that so many gators are in Disney waters.
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Originally Posted By SpicyCurrie⏩
How did the dad even fukkin fail?


If it were my kid I'd be eye gouging the fukk outta the gator and if that failed I'd reach to the back of its mouth - it has some chit that if you grab and pull it starts to drown (srs).



Also RIP alligators that were killed and didn't do anything.. Just like that gorilla
all he had to do was wrap his arms around the gator, throw it on the beach, flip it over, stick his thumb up its anoose and start ripping. Gator would have let go real quick. They don't have anoose armor.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
all he had to do was wrap his arms around the gator, throw it on the beach, flip it over, stick his thumb up its anoose and start ripping. Gator would have let go real quick. They don't have anoose armor.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
all he had to do was wrap his arms around the gator, throw it on the beach, flip it over, stick his thumb up its anoose and start ripping. Gator would have let go real quick. They don't have anoose armor.
Yeah. I'm surprised father never pass any alligator fighting education.
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Stop blaiming the parents. They were tourists, they made a very novice mistake that just so happens to have ended with their 2 year old kid getting dragged underwader by a 7 foot alligator. I think thats punishment enough, isnt it? The parents will most likey off themselves or at least be empty for the rest of their lives, all because one simply stupid mistake, one stupid ass rule they didnt follow, maybe because of negligence, or maybe because they simply didnt see the sign, who knows, but losing their kid in that way is punishment enough, no need to put them in jail, or harass them online.


Lets be honest, every parent has done something stupid. No parent is perfect, so get off your high horse misc and let the gotdamn family deal with their loss. Ignoring a "No swimming big drop" sign is in no way a mistake big enough that would often end in a 2 year old kid losing their live to a croc, and is no mistake big enough to blame the poor parents on. Cut them some slack, they were on vacations, at a nice resort, on a beach looking area, with no signs of alligators. Dude losing his child to an alligator was the last thing he expected TBH.

Inb4 "but its florida!". Yeah *******s and its a beach looking resort with access to everyone who wants. What if a couple of cheeky kids go and escape their parents and start playing there? The resort is definitely at fault in this, even more than the parents.


Im no idiot, but if i met a girl on that resort, and wanted to look for a place to fool around and playfully hang with her and ****, that place would seem like a great place to do it. Nice beach looking place, dark, quiet etc, i could see myself getting playful with a girl trying to splash her and ****, and id would just be careful of the "deep drop"... but if there was an alligator sign id be as far as that place as possible lol.


Calm the fuk down misc, let the poor family deal with this. People have made much worse mistakes with no consequences before, this was just a tiny **** mistake with the highest posible punishment, let the dad do his mourning please.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Im no idiot, but if i met a girl on that resort, and wanted to look for a place to fool around and playfully hang with her and ****,that place would seem like a great place to do it. Nice beach looking place, dark, quiet etc, i could see myself getting playful with a girl trying to splash her and ****, and id would just be careful of the "deep drop"... but if there was an alligator sign id be as far as that place as possible lol
Good post, but only one of these things is true.
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Originally Posted By Spartan32⏩
I've been to Disney World and The Grand Floridian numerous times, and I never once thought alligators were in the water. I understand that gators are all over Florida, but I figured that Disney would have somehow taken precautionary measures to prevent them from infesting their man made lakes. At the very least, I am surprised that they have sand with chairs so close to gator infested water. I bet the majority of people who are not from Florida would be shocked to find out that so many gators are in Disney waters.
Yeah, most folks are not from Florida. They should have signs that read "ALLIGATORS. POISONOUS snakes Do not enter water."

Btw, do Salties in Australia infest freshwater pools like southern USA too?



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Fuk Florida. If it wasn't enough you had to worry about somebody chewing your face off, now you have to worry about a modern day dinosaur hauling off one of your kids.

Lets sell that state to Cuba.

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Suddenly, I want alligator leather in the Mustang I'm planning to buy.
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media fails to report that..
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