Name?

Who is she picking? The guy that looks 14??

homosexuals care more about the body than the face or so i heard...


at the end dink size is all that matters imho

if you're below 9 inches you wil lget cheated on

lmao. love it when people cope out loud like this.
you keep telling yourselves looks don't matter while I have girls constantly wanting to be all over my abs

^ This man knows what he's talking about. Even if you're a good looking young guy, go out, get fit and look like you don't just lift a beer glass on the weekend and notice the huge difference in the way everyone treats you. Girls seem more interested, guys have an assumed respect/rapport...

Of course, confidence is everything but if you're not already up there, getting in good shape will go a long way to getting you there.

I considered myself a good looking guy. Got "ok" attention from females. Started lifting and even though im still DYEL standards relative to bodybuilders, I have been getting more attention than ever.

Lifting gave me confidence, so it changed the way I carry myself, which I am sure helps, but I also work in an office of 10 women(i am like the only dude) and the interactions now, though they were never not warm, are a lot more inviting if not flirtatious. Its also interesting seeing them do a glance over me. Like they noticed I am on my way from skinny fat to relatively aesthetic.

That said, I don't think physique is the be all end all, nor are we talking about bodybuilding physique. But just have some definition/muscles, relatively lean and you are already better than 80% of the guys out there. Women notice that ****.

OP's physique must be crappy or something. lol

Its your attitude... Physique definitely peaks interest in chicks, if you're solid you look strong... Problem is you have to be consistent with the image. If you're buff and you get hurt easy chicks will wonder wtf is wrong with your self esteem assume you have issues and leave you alone.

You find me ONE sex symbol male actor in Hollywood that didn't have at the very least a decent physique in his prime...I'll wait.

Women don't have much say in the man that dates them. 97% of situations happen like this: viable woman is courted by a man that isn't a horrible freak and she works hard to keep him attracted till he decides he wants to marry her. That's reality.

The only factor that matters is the man's libido. Libido does not depend on your ability to masturbate to porn. Real world libido revolves around how sexually aggressive you are with women IRL. Men that have real strong libido get good viable women. Men with poor l ibidos inherit the trash that no one wants
to recap: women have no dating power. A man with a high libido gets first dips ALWAYS. That 10 in your class? A high libido male got her wrapped up! He may be 5'5" and balding but he's got a better libido than you. A true libido gets a man what he wants regardless of any pseudo pua traits that betas refer to.

Women do find muscles sexy! But primarily it's a mans natural body they find sexy when muscled. If a man has supreme genes and has muscle fullness, diced abs and good structure without even lifting then it sends a primal signal to women. These are the real world alpha males with the cheekbones, drawn out faces and wide round shoulders that get that way just from being born and they inspire men everywhere they go to get that look.

However, women don't like the pumped look. Years of doing unnecessary fake world work like benching and curling gives a man potentially a fake looking swollen look. To us men it looks awesome but to women it looks unnatural and ruins his natural flow.

An example of this unnatural look would be comparing Christian bale in American psycho to Christian bale in barman begins. In American psycho his body is tight, drawn out and naturalesque , meanwhile in batman begins he gained alot of muscle size, his pecs inflated , his alarms inflated and he generally loses that tight natural flow as the swelling effect of volume lifting distorts him.

Yes, if you do 70 sets a week for biceps you will eventually have that swollen look. It's an inflammation really. Weightlifting is really inflammation and if you don't have great genes then that inflammation quickly fades away a few months after you stop lifting. So, what I'm saying is don't think that spending years obsessively inflating your body is going to make you look better to women. You must respect your natural flow, your natural structure and keep it tight and animalistic looking if you want to be sexy to women. An example of a natural body that's tight and animalistic would be Tom Hanks in castaway where the body resembles looking fit due to environmental stress.

Basically, mastering the earths gravity turns women on. We are born crawling, it's our natural instinct to want to strive to master earths gravity. We grow up and our bone structure and muscle structure has mastered gravity. It's natural. We are sexy to women. Then we lift for a few years and gain 30 lbs of pure muscle and suddenly that mastery is gone. We are off trying to master the gyms gravity. We totally lost sight of earths gravitational pull. An example of mastering earths gravity would be being a great dancer. Do women like guys that can dance? You bet! If you want to physically express your sex appeal to women then think more in terms of mastering the natural gravitational pull of the planet. Why do you think the idea of Tarzan makes women wet their pants? Because he's feral and he the undisputed champion of gravity. Be the champion of gravity and women will wet themselves.

Jesus. You guys are still looking for formulas for this kind of ****.

I'm the most out of shape I've been in years lately (still slim, just not as lean/big as usual) and have gotten the most quality pussy to date. There are so many variables and without charm/interesting personality, you won't get far with just the formulaic good grooming/ripped body bull****. I do have the benefit of decent looks/height/deep voice/experience. But at the end of the day women want a man who sees past their bull****, not plays into it.

Interesting
Btw how much do you think Christian Bale weighed in American Psycho vs Batman ? What was his bf% you think?
I know he's a weak 6'0 so it can't be too heavy.

Strongly agree with face, wealth, status. However, if you think girls don't go gaga for aesthetics you are kidding yourself.

believe that's james deen

you just have to look fit / not a fat slob you dont need to be shredded but certainly helps.

People on this site GREATLY overestimate how much having mass matters. chicks at my university gush over guys who are even remotely toned as long as you have a solid face to back it up.

Men will be men. I made this mistake myself in my early 20's. God, I was a fcukin idiot for thinking bigger was better - faceplam.

I did get a lot of attention from men though.

it's really just the face, if you're toned it's just the face that's slimming down as an effect.

there's a chipandales in las vegas that women publically go to see jacked chads live.

imagine hitting on girls on their way to a chipndales show, while getting rejected. this happened to me, and even though it sucked i realized that,

being cut matters, but doing it too much ruins self esteem, unless you're doing it for competitive purposes.

it's about finding that medium that works well for you, that 'looks' healthy natty. those chipndales are just meat to the herd.

be more than that, and be more of a human being natty, this works and pulls the most women.

but of course the face is the most important aspect to your genes for passing them on.

ITT: Opie tries to argue why he does not lift. NEWSFLASH OP, anyone who lifts for girls is beta anyways. Lift for yourself or find a new hobby.

To sum it up, physique will help, and so will many other things. If you genuinely think girls would not take a poor fit guy over a poor fat guy you are diluted.

This, mass is irrelevant for girls, In fact, to much mass is off putting.


A girl will find equally hot an aesthetic 200 lbs lean guy than a slightly smaller 180 lbs one. As long as he's got the broad shoulders, nice pecs, toned arms, visible abs etc he's a 10/10 body-wise. If you are 220 lbs, but you are simply not aesthetic and have weird insertions, girls will think you are insecure srs.


Tall, broad shoulders nice pecs crew checking in. Feels good man

Agreed, and I think it's even more important when you're short. A short guy carrying a lot of mass without definition just looks like a troll. I only weigh 150 in my AVI.

Op tells me physique doesn't matter then proceeds to tell me I can't be 50 lbs overweight.

Is your name Tyrone or Jamal?
lol
don't be mad, I had to ask!

u dumbass its the exact opposite of looks dont matter
its basically saying looks are everything and predetermined no matter how much u workout cause face>all

I'm not building an impressive physique to impress some sloots. If you are then you're an idiot. I'm doing it because it will go along nicely when I'm the CFO of a company some day and I have the mindset as well as the physique that demands respect.

normal girls can often differentiate between a **** body and good body.

but only those who trains will know the difference between a good body and a great body.

it makes a difference, just like how your face, your game, your money/status all plays a part.

listen *******:

1. good physique is a life changing step bc:
- dedication
- discipline
- good body = maintenance = you take care of yourself
- self esteem
- goal oriented
- healthy nutrition
- etc.


the effect is maybe not directly getting a girl but it is the progress what helps you getting everything you want

Damn I would have guessed at least 180-200 lb for your avi

So glad OP is banned.

Fuking idiot SHer thinking women like twinks like Lachowski and acting like male models aren't geared towards gay standards.