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post 1451776643 07-08-2016, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By mydawgs
I am not sure what "Black People" means let alone what they believe...I can only speak to the Black people I know and what they have shared with me as to their beliefs.

As far as "black people actually profiled by race alone in 2016? NOT A STATISTICAL FACT"...I am not familiar with that statistic, nor the scientific merit by which it was developed.

When you "science", attention to detail matters.
There was a statistical breakdown infographic on the page before this.
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Originally Posted By mydawgs
I am not sure what "Black People" means let alone what they believe...I can only speak to the Black people I know and what they have shared with me as to their beliefs.

As far as "black people actually profiled by race alone in 2016? NOT A STATISTICAL FACT"...I am not familiar with that statistic, nor the scientific merit by which it was developed.

When you "science", attention to detail matters.
And right here we have the perfect example of an educated black man who would rather dig his head in the sand as he screams "systemic racism!!!!!" than have to deal with the possibility that maybe, JUST MAYBE, half this chit is in his head. And that funny smell he is smelling really is just vinegar from the chip on his shoulder.
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Originally Posted By leakypipe23
Let's make a list of rappers who spread a positive message, and who don't rap about guns, drugs, bitches, or money.

1. Lecrae
2. ?
Don't be a tool, there are literally multiple rappers who spread positivity.
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV
There was a statistical breakdown infographic on the page before this.
A guy called mydawgs aint reading chit unless it confirms his worldview.
post 1451777303 07-08-2016, 12:12 PM
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incredible how much people are dodging the issue and talking about unrelated things.

The protest are about cops murdering black men for no reason and getting away with it.

It's not about gang violence
It's not about black parenting
Not about drugs
Not about social programs designed to help blacks(affirmative action)
its not even about systemic racism as a whole

All that BLM is saying, is that this is an injustice that has to stop. period. and 99% of you inbred hicks just cant take it.
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Originally Posted By Postmort3m
You can't shed responsibility from wrongdoings of the community yet turn around and claim shared victim hood.

DoneBYblack people- isolated incident!!!!!! Not all of us!!!!!!

DoneTOblack people- systemic racism!!!! See!!!!!!!
Seriously this. How can you BLM supporters not see how hypocritical it is.

Cop shoots black person - cops are all racist, and trigger happy towards blacks.
Black person shoots cop - don't blame the whole race for a few bad seeds.
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Originally Posted By YouAreAllLiars
Don't be a tool, there are literally multiple rappers who spread positivity.
Are you talking philosophical positivity or physical positivity?
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV
There was a statistical breakdown infographic on the page before this.
I know but the methodology by which the data was collected and then compiled into the statistic was missing.
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Originally Posted By Ironsmith29
And right here we have the perfect example of an educated black man who would rather dig his head in the sand as he screams "systemic racism!!!!!" than have to deal with the possibility that maybe, JUST MAYBE, half this chit is in his head. And that funny smell he is smelling really is just vinegar from the chip on his shoulder.
pretty sure hes white..
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post 1451777893 07-08-2016, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Ironsmith29
And right here we have the perfect example of an educated black man who would rather dig his head in the sand as he screams "systemic racism!!!!!" than have to deal with the possibility that maybe, JUST MAYBE, half this chit is in his head. And that funny smell he is smelling really is just vinegar from the chip on his shoulder.
Srsly...white and female.

I am not sure how to define this problem, but I'm pretty sure there is one. And the bodies stacking up would tend to validate it.
post 1451777903 07-08-2016, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis
incredible how much people are dodging the issue and talking about unrelated things.

The protest are about cops murdering black men for no reason and getting away with it.

It's not about gang violence
It's not about black parenting
Not about drugs
Not about social programs designed to help blacks(affirmative action)
its not even about systemic racism as a whole

All that BLM is saying, is that this is an injustice that has to stop. period. and 99% of you inbred hicks just cant take it.
Except those cops didn't murder anyone. Just used swift and forceful actions do defend their lives from thug scum
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It amazes me the stupidity on both ends of the spectrum in this debate, and the gross misrepresentation of both's arguments when debating. The refusal by some on the right (not all) to acknowledge the injustice of the officers shooting people completely unnecessarily, and some on the left (not all) who refuse to acknowledge there will be times when use of force by an officer is completely justified. Treating each individual case from completely different states and municipalities, as another sequence in the same system is ridiculous, and doesn't prove there is some systemic racism across all US police forces. Likewise, these narratives about the deceased's character (the FB posts of the man shot in his car) do nothing to justify his death, nor does a sex crime justify the death of the other guy who was in a wrestling match with the police.

But perhaps the greatest divide is many commentators on the left believing there is no difference is criminality between blacks and other races, and those on the right who believe every community is enforced with the exact same standard. I saw Van Jones and some other guy debating with Harry Houck on CNN. Houck believed that every community is enforced with the exact same standard, while Van was trying to explain, while anecdotally, the rampant drug usage he saw at Yale that was never enforced. What neither side came to understand is that there is a stronger police presence in black communities, not because of drug use, but because of the much higher VIOLENT CRIME rate. That is why we are seeing these pointless arrests and subsequent killings. Eric Garner selling darts individually is not something the police should be bothering themselves with enforcing. Likewise, that guy selling the CDs should not be something that law enforcement should really be bothering with. But you have these cops in these communities all the time on edge with all the violent crime they see, and they start enforcing things that should never be enforced. Until the violent crime rates come down, the police will continue overwhelmingly (though necessarily) to be in these communities and these tragedies will continue to happen.

Cliffs:
-People on the right are refusing to admit there is a problem, and that black communities aren't enforced differently.
-People on the left are refusing to admit that the violent crime rate is resulting in a higher policing presence and why these events are happening.
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah
Except those cops didn't murder anyone. Just used swift and forceful actions do defend their lives from thug scum
There it is, they're all thugs and all their lives are being threatened. BRB the guy in minnesota was getting his fuking driver's license out. NOPE THUG KILL HIM


Sad to see the ignorance
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Originally Posted By leakypipe23
Let's make a list of rappers who spread a positive message, and who don't rap about guns, drugs, bitches, or money.

1. Lecrae
2. ?
1.Kendrick Lamar
2.Chance
3.J Cole
4.logic
5. big crit
6. Dizzy Wright
7.B.O.B
8.Childish Gambino
9.Wale
10.Los

And many others.

I won't name the old heads from the 90s and back as they don't count towards this generation.

And Lecrae is a Gospel Rapper, there are a bunch of other black gospel rappers too, he is just the biggest one. So if you want to count them, you can.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis
incredible how much people are dodging the issue and talking about unrelated things.

The protest are about copsmurderingblack menfor no reasonand getting away with it.

It's not about gang violence
It's not about black parenting
Not about drugs
Not about social programs designed to help blacks(affirmative action)
its not even about systemic racism as a whole

All that BLM is saying, is that this is an injustice that has to stop. period. and 99% of you inbred hicks just cant take it.
They were resisting arrest though. It's wasn't for no reason.

And it wasn't murder, it was neutralizing a suspect.

Everyone has to obey the law. That's just how it works.
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Originally Posted By Ironsmith29
A guy called mydawgs aint reading chit unless it confirms his worldview.
I am all about the science....show me the data, anyone can draw a picture and call it a statistic, the science is in the diligence of applying the data with a scientific method. Right?

I just want to see this one.
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Originally Posted By mydawgs
Believe or don't - that is not the issue....but a rational person will see this as an anomaly and wonder why. We can listen to our Leaders and make the problem so magnanimous, with equally pie in the sky solutions that cannot realistically be implemented, or we can deal with the fact that there is an undercurrent at large and look at it, be real about it, and work together to start solving problems.......

or we can call it a "small inconvenience" and deal with what is currently unfolding in our present
did you even read what statistics brah posted? the disparity in police stops between blacks and other races stands at a whooping 3%, we've already seen the data that shows whites slayings at the hands of cops stand at double to those of blacks yet you still persist with the idea that there is some unjust agenda against blacks, there is literally no problem if not for the media beat up, there is nothing to solve
Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis
incredible how much people are dodging the issue and talking about unrelated things.

The protest are about cops murdering black men for no reason and getting away with it.

It's not about gang violence
It's not about black parenting
Not about drugs
Not about social programs designed to help blacks(affirmative action)
its not even about systemic racism as a whole

All that BLM is saying, is that this is an injustice that has to stop. period. and 99% of you inbred hicks just cant take it.
see above buddy boy, pls stop trying to be a victim because you will never be murdered by a cop for an unjust reason in this lifetime, those black men who you're shedding crocodile tears for would see your preppy sperry and polos dressing ass would not sympathise with you if you ever crossed them on the street
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV
They were resisting arrest though. It's wasn't for no reason.

And it wasn't murder, it was neutralizing a suspect.

Everyone has to obey the law. That's just how it works.
The law does not give cops permission to kill people who resist arrest. That is murder. they are only supposed to do that if their life is in danger, and LOL if you think these scenarios merit that. Unless black man reaching for wallet is just such a threat. Meanwhile another white mass shooter is getting escorted to his day in court.
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Originally Posted By lolXlol
did you even read what statistics brah posted? the disparity in police stops between blacks and other races stands at a whooping 3%, we've already seen the data that shows whites slayings at the hands of cops stand at double to those of blacks yet you still persist with the idea that there is some unjust agenda against blacks, there is literally no problem if not for the media beat up, there is nothing to solve
Actually you saw the product of some kind of statistical analysis, without showing the work.....like long division, I am simply asking you to show the work so I can share/or not in your conclusions.
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Originally Posted By lolXlol
see above buddy boy, pls stop trying to be a victim because you will never be murdered by a cop for an unjust reason in this lifetime, those black men who you're shedding crocodile tears for would see your preppy sperry and polos dressing ass would not sympathise with you if you ever crossed them on the street
I've had great interactions with cops so far, but that doesn't mean it isnt an issue.

Just because I dont identify with thug culture doesn't mean I'm going to ignore issues facing all blacks. I could get stopped next week and killed by some racist cop just as easily as a thug
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Originally Posted By mydawgs
Actually you saw the product of some kind of statistical analysis, without showing the work.....like long division, I am simply asking you to show the work so I can share/or not in your conclusions.
liberals/you are unbelievable...
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis
I've had great interactions with cops so far, but that doesn't mean it isnt an issue.

Just because I dont identify with thug culture doesn't mean I'm going to ignore issues facing all blacks. I could get stopped next week and killed by some racist cop just as easily as a thug
no you're not, if you dress well, don't look like a thug and act respectful the police no matter even if he is racist will not do a thing to you
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Originally Posted By lolXlol
liberals/you are unbelievable...
Wow, you really have not a clue to my politics do you....ok

BTW this is the first time I have been called a liberal ---- where is RoughP when I need him....
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Originally Posted By leakypipe23
Let's make a list of rappers who spread a positive message, and who don't rap about guns, drugs, bitches, or money.

1. Lecrae
2. ?
this is ignorant and you know it
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV
They were resisting arrest though. It's wasn't for no reason.

And it wasn't murder, it was neutralizing a suspect.

Everyone has to obey the law. That's just how it works.
how can you still say this in light of the recent videos posted online??? The ones that clearly show blacks being shot at while already incapacitated or reaching for their identification?

For you to go around and always claim to be interested in "facts," you seem to be ignoring the ones that point to some kind of discrimination or inefficiencies within our law enforcement.
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Originally Posted By lolXlol
no you're not, if you dress well, don't look like a thug and act respectful the police no matter even if he is racist will not do a thing to you
There shouldnt be a standard personality you have to follow to not be treated unfairly by cops, and that to me is the biggest problem. Cops have huge ego's and they, from what ive seen, are always willing to escalate a confrontation rather than de-escalate it.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis
The law does not give cops permission to kill people who resist arrest. That is murder. they are only supposed to do that if their life is in danger, and LOL if you think these scenarios merit that. Unless black man reaching for wallet is just such a threat. Meanwhile another white mass shooter is getting escorted to his day in court.
Technically anyone who resists arrest is putting an officers life in danger.

Because its their duty to use force to arrest you. They are not supposed to let you go about doing whatever you want other wise there would be no point for cops or civilization. We would all just kill each other freely.

So a cop HAS to arrest people who break the laws.

So if you don't let them do that, you are making them have to get physical, thats essentially putting their safety at risk.

Once they catch you, they catch you. You have to let them arrest you when they decide to and deal with it later.

Don't try to tell the police departments how to do their jobs. They know what the risks are better than civilians, and especially better than criminals.

Criminals don't get to decide if they get arrested or not, period.
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Black people thug culture blah blah blah police racism blah blah blah
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Originally Posted By lolXlol
no you're not, if you dress well, don't look like a thug and act respectful the police no matter even if he is racist will not do a thing to you
lmao, President Obama has been profiled doing normal things because he is black.

And dressing and acting like a thug still doesn't mean cops are free to murder you. That's the problem. It isn't the land of the free if dressing a certain way gets you killed
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