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ยป Lol if you're cutting and not doing keto lmao
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post 1453673453 07-20-2016, 01:26 PM
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Satiation on keto is GOAT. Obviously it's cal in/out but once you're adapted you can eat way less and still feel great. Went from 18-20% bf (avi) to 12ish% in a few months and have stayed there since. I could go lower but I'm comfortable at this weight, especially since it's winter here.

For people feeling crap on keto and have actually stuck to it for longer than a week, you're probably doing one of these:

- Not eating enough fat.
- Not getting enough salt (this is a huge one, the ketogenic diet is natriuretic. Sodium is constantly pissed out. If you're not putting a bit of salt on practically every meal you're going to feel like chit. Eventually your kidneys will excrete potassium to preserve sodium and you're going to feel even worse.)
- Not drinking enough water.
post 1453673643 07-20-2016, 01:27 PM
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lol at those who don't do IF+keto/carb cycling. I legit went from 10% bf to about 8% bf in two days.Works every time, being doing it for 2 years now.


Stay lean year round(10-11%bf)


Then when summer hits it will only take 4 days tops to get shredded.
post 1453674093 07-20-2016, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By J1992
lol at those who don't do IF+keto/carb cycling. I legit went from 10% bf to about 8% bf in two days.
Ummm...

Completely different animals dude

Carb cycling > IF > Keto

There are variations of each. Keto is keto which is why it sucks. You can carb cycle on its own, do IF on it's own, carb-cycle with IF, and then there's just straight step down dieting.
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post 1453674903 07-20-2016, 01:35 PM
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when i first started lifting i did keto and lost like 35lbs easily. i wouldnt do it again though because carbs are too tasty. im getting lean right now while eating a large pizza like 2-3 times a week. why keto?
post 1453675013 07-20-2016, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By MrSilverback
Ummm...

Completely different animals dude

Carb cycling > IF > Keto

There are variations of each. Keto is keto which is why it sucks. You can carb cycle on its own, do IF on it's own, carb-cycle with IF, and then there's just straight step down dieting.
No sht, I'm well aware of all.


What I do stay 10-11% bf is just do IF and a bit of carb cycling here and there with cardio 2-3 times a week.

If I want to get shredded quick then I implement keto. If you stay lean year round like I do it's easy.

Day 1 30-50g carbs 1.5 gallons of water, cardio
Day 2- same
Day 3- flat but more ripped, CARB UP day
Day 4- full and shredded about 8%bf
post 1453675063 07-20-2016, 01:36 PM
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the only time im not doing a version of keto and IF is when im bulking. Its tough to add legit size and not have to eat all the time
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post 1453675183 07-20-2016, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By rjones416
when i first started lifting i did keto and lost like 35lbs easily. i wouldnt do it again though because carbs are too tasty. im getting lean right now while eating a large pizza like 2-3 times a week. why keto?
i could get pizza too and be 'pretty lean' but I want to be shredded srs
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post 1453680153 07-20-2016, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By J1992
lol at those who don't do IF+keto/carb cycling.I legit went from 10% bf to about 8% bf in two days.Works every time, being doing it for 2 years now.


Stay lean year round(10-11%bf)


Then when summer hits it will only take 4 days tops to get shredded.
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post 1453680993 07-20-2016, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted By jmanrob
why do keto when IF is so much better?
Why not both.... IF isn't a diet it's meal timing
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post 1453686383 07-20-2016, 02:47 PM
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Currently on IF and keto. (50 carbs or less per day)

Day 15 here, so far so good.
post 1453687113 07-20-2016, 02:51 PM
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Ultimately cals in vs cals out is what matters, however different diets have their own place.

would never do keto, but i would probably put someone who was obese on it. Someone with more self control can just track macros/calories and be fine but ones who have trouble are better off doing it this way IMO

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/

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post 1453687303 07-20-2016, 02:52 PM
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rather just keep macros balanced and do IF
post 1453687723 07-20-2016, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle
if + low carbish + cheat day = GOAT
Basically this. IF + carb cycling = GOAT.
post 1453688073 07-20-2016, 02:57 PM
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top kek @ all the effeminate beta cucks that are so emotionally attached to their carbs. Your ancestors almost never had carbs and climbed mountains hunting saber tooth tigers all day. Grains/bread were not in the diet. Fruit was rare to come by. That was it. Then these pussies go a few days without carbs and start crying about it. Hilarious
post 1453688933 07-20-2016, 03:04 PM
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just curious brahs so if im currently cutting on a regular calorie deficit and losing fat regularly, will switching to keto benefit me more in any way? also, can you keto brahs give me your typical meals every day? ty
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post 1453690663 07-20-2016, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Vbrah
just curious brahs so if im currently cutting on a regular calorie deficit and losing fat regularly, will switching to keto benefit me more in any way? also, can you keto brahs give me your typical meals every day? ty
probably not, dont fix it if it isnt broken.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27385608
post 1453691203 07-20-2016, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted By ezjax
the health benefits of keto far outweigh the weight loss..

Just google metabolic therapy for cancer or anything with curing epilepsy.. There are also some small n value studies that show keto has a statistically significant effect on fat loss. Weight loss is not significantly different from keto to low fat but fast loss is
are you saying it can cure epilepsy
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post 1453691613 07-20-2016, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By jawbruh
not in the slightest

it's 11pm here and I am eating nutella + strawberry sandwiches while feeling up my perfectly sculpted abs

picture for the reference



have fun counting cals and restricting your carb intake like a proper cuck
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post 1453692553 07-20-2016, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Vbrah
just curious brahs so if im currently cutting on a regular calorie deficit and losing fat regularly, will switching to keto benefit me more in any way? also, can you keto brahs give me your typical meals every day? ty



Drink lots of water and take psyllium husk for fiber.
post 1453693323 07-20-2016, 03:30 PM
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ever tell a fat woman "calories in < calories out" and told her to go with it?

yeah good luck there.

That's one part of the equation. The second part is WHAT calories you eat, as they all incur different hormonal responses that can make dieting easier or harder.

For many (esp the obese) keto is great. These are the types that simply can't count their calories. It helps with insulin insensitivity and keeps hunger away.

For the leaner or high activity types - moderate carb diets are best.

For EVERYONE, IF and limiting sugar is necessary. Keeps insulin from bouncing around all day (and stopping fat burning) and avoiding overeating.

everything's at bodyrecomposition.com. Keto is great for many, some can't do it and moderate carbs is better. Up to you.
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post 1453693803 07-20-2016, 03:32 PM
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lol @ people that don't fast for 3 days to lose 5kg
post 1453694193 07-20-2016, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Nonsense916
but how..
all I could figure that did it for me was my sodium intake being through the roof (even for a keto plan) and all my training was low volume stuff. into that 3rd week though, I swear my arms just disappearedgotta be the worst part about cutting
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keto flu no thanks jeff
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Have tried keto before, worked well.

However i just try to eat my 2k cals make sure i get over 100g of protein.

Mid carbs das it mane.
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33
keto flu no thanks jeff
I'm on 2 weeks and haven't experienced it, weird.
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Just gotta be careful you don't cut too much when your hunger becomes non existent.
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Keto diet crew, recent inductee.

Been about 2.5 weeks so far. I feel great. Energy levels same, if not better. Don't get tired as early in the evening as I used to, actually. I do get random, sometimes intense, cravings for any sort of carbs though.
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33
keto flu no thanks jeff
then up your carbs

i found heavy coffee drinkers have the most issues
Weight Loss: Go carnivore or keto/low carb. Create calorie deficit. Buy packaged healthy meals if needed. Meat is good and heals, stop being lied to.

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enjoy your high SHBG
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Originally Posted By iceypain
enjoy your high SHBG
That good or bad?
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