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Thread: Feel The Johnson: Gary Johnson just 2 points from debates!

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Originally Posted By BeReRkER⏩
Vote Trump > Johnson. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary unfortunately at least for this election.
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Originally Posted By davesterrr⏩
Any vote for johnson is just a vote for hillary clinton.
The dude wont become president.
Lol at all the scardy cucks itt.

Two party cuck logic, " If you drink water you're really drinking Pepsi because it's not coke".
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Originally Posted By FreshStart12⏩
I'm not a Hillary fan or a Trump fan. However I think it's irresponsible to vote for a third party who has zero chance of winning an election.

You just have to choose the best of two evils to help limit the future problems and headaches. Voting for Johnson won't solve anything and will just be another vote for Hillary.

Not a good outlook and it sucks but it's true.
Yes lets keep voting for the lesser of two evils because thats been working out great so far...whats it called again when you keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting to get different results?

Most people don't want trump or Hillary. So if most people voted for Gary what would happen?
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"Johnson advocates for a free market with small government and limited regulation.He favors tax reform that would create a single consumption tax that is the same rate for all goods and all purchasers. Basic necessities would be covered by a prebate a monthly payment given to every taxpaying household by the government."

This is the only part of his platform I can't stand behind. I think Wall Street needs to be monitored intensely, especially after watching The Big Short. They literally don't give a phuck.
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Originally Posted By CumToSenses⏩
"Johnson advocates for a free market with small government and limited regulation.He favors tax reform that would create a single consumption tax that is the same rate for all goods and all purchasers. Basic necessities would be covered by a “prebate” — a monthly payment given to every taxpaying household by the government."

This is the only part of his platform I can't stand behind. I think Wall Street needs to be monitored intensely, especially after watching The Big Short. They literally don't give a phuck.
Hate to break it to you but currently Wall Street IS monitored and guess what? They dont give a phuck.
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Read an article in Forbes where Johnson admitted the only way he could win is by a loophole that the House of Representatives gets to elect the president.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenstj...election-ever/
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I support this. Will take more radicals from Hilary. Nobody even considering Trump will vote Johnson based on his insane open borders position.
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Johnson is pro open-borders. Deal breaker.
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Remember, if a pollster calls you, say you are voting for Gary Johnson and you are libertarian. Let's get this chap 15% in the polls by the 15th of August!

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Originally Posted By EhJayAych⏩
Johnson is pro open-borders. Deal breaker.
Yep, dudes a pure globalist
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Originally Posted By Sinix⏩
If you want Gary Johnson in the debates then you basically want a death sentence for Trump and the easiest path possible for Hillary to the White House.
Just stop already. If you're running for president, you deserve to be there.
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Originally Posted By JimFromRaleigh1⏩
brb it is now irresponsible to exercise our constitutional right.
dude dont you know you are only allowed to vote for the people the news outlets shove down your throat.
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Gary "Bake the ****ing cake Jew" Johnson:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ga...rticle/2598088

In a year when conservatives are being turned off by Donald Trump, do you worry that you're turning off conservatives who might come to the Libertarian Party?

"It's the right message, and I'm sideways with the Libertarian Party on this. My crystal ball is that you are going to get discriminated against by somebody because it's against their religion. Somehow you have offended their religion because you've walked in and you're denied service. You."

Discrimination. Yes."

In all cases?

"Yes, yes, in all cases. Yes. And you're using an example that seems to go outside the bounds of common sense. But man, now you're back to public policy. And it's kind of like the death penalty. Do I favor the death penalty. Theoretically I do, but when you realize that there's a 4 percent error rate, you end up putting guilty people to death. I think this is analogous to hate crime. Convict me on the act of throwing a rock through somebody's window. But if you're going to convict me on my motivation for doing that, now you're back to religious freedom. I mean under the guise of religious freedom, anybody can do anything. Back to Mormonism. Why shouldn't somebody be able to shoot somebody else because their freedom of religion says that God has spoken to them and that they can shoot somebody dead."

That doesn't seem like the distinction that a libertarian typically makes. Shooting is an initiation of force, versus deciding what ceremonies to participate in.

"Well, they bring out this issue, which I realize it has happened. But the objective here is to say that discrimination is not allowed for by business ..."

"I just see religious freedom, as a category, of just being a black hole."

B-but Trump is going to ruin America by not bringing in hundreds of thousands of low IQ islamists, uhg he's so anti-liberty!!!!

"What's that Ezra? Neo Nazi Mike wants you to bake him a swastika cake? GET THE **** ON IT YOU JEW"

"Oh what's that Christian baker, you don't want to bake a cake of two men sodomizing each other with the bible? PAY THIS FINE OR GET BEHIND THESE BARS"
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Supply something besides debunked nonsense that supports that statement.



As a rule, that's true, but this election is like none before it and all the old rules don't apply, which is why Trump is the GOP candidate, another "impossible" event people claimed when all this began. Again, I have laid out the chain of events that need to happen for GJ to have a legit shot at it, and the numbers that exist support it. The very reason we have Trump is no one thought it possible, assumed he'd burn out once the "real" candidates started their push, and by the time they realized Trump was not going away, it was too late. Hence, he's living proof this is not like other elections and there's more potential surprises to come.



No thanx Jeff. Not quite ready to hold my nose and jump on the Dump train just yet while this is in play with GJ. The numbers show us if those in the polls who are unhappy with their choices voted for GJ, he'd win easily. But, when people continue to say it cant happen, that's self fulfilling prophecy.

If you genuinly think Trump is the right choice for the nation (HC is obviously not even worth a mention here) than vote for him.
With the upcoming Romney endorsement (which is being 'PR tested' to see if it tanks him outside of UT) the GOP establishment hope is GJ actually gets electoral votes to prevent either frontrunner getting 270. Hillary winning is a great 2nd prize because it means Mitt and Kristol and the boys can get 'their' party back and keep the corporate donors happy, but congress picking the President would be the absolute best case for them.

Obviously this is why Bernie didn't run, because he might have scored 2-4 states and then it would be down to Paul Ryan to chose Mitt to be the next president.
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Originally Posted By PrivilegeCheker⏩
Yes lets keep voting for the lesser of two evils because thats been working out great so far...whats it called again when you keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting to get different results?

Most people don't want trump or Hillary. So if most people voted for Gary what would happen?
Yes lets just act like our votes matter. Lets act like if a few of us don't vote for one of the two primary candidates we can make change!

And yes, derp. If most people vote Gary that would probably mean Gary wins. Your logic is infallible.

There's a difference between wanting something and having the chance to get something.
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Originally Posted By FreshStart12⏩
Yes lets just act like our votes matter. Lets act like if a few of us don't vote for one of the two primary candidates we can make change!

And yes, derp. If most people vote Gary that would probably mean Gary wins. Your logic is infallible.

There's a difference between wanting something and having the chance to get something.
I know youre scared of change and you're scared that we cant change the two party system. But we're here for you boyo, it's ok. Just hop on the Johnson, you know it's what you really want
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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩
Hate to break it to you but currently Wall Street IS monitored and guess what? They dont give a phuck.
After tanking the economy in 08, they gave themselves all raises after being "too big to fail." I'll try GJs approach any time.
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Ideally, Romney would support GJ. This would make GJ poll higher and get in the debates while locking up Utah.

As GJ gets more exposure, he may win more states as he is seen as a viable option. More republicans/dems endorse GJ.

Election day, no candidate gets 270 and it goes to the house.

What a time to be alive!
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Originally Posted By Forty0zFreedom⏩
I support this. Will take more radicals from Hilary. Nobody even considering Trump will vote Johnson based on his insane open borders position.
He does not have and open border position. Stop regurgitating like a lemming what you read some place on some web site. See below:
Originally Posted By EhJayAych⏩
Johnson is pro open-borders. Deal breaker.
See above. You guys keep repeating having obviously done jack chit for research. I will aware you.

Here's a good run down of GJ basic policy positions as well as Stein. Everything I read on JG I was in agreement with. Stein, not so much.

"But but dem open borders" seems the mantra of those who parrot what they read and really have no clue what GJ actual policies are, which are not open borders. Again, we was two time and popular Gov of aborderstate and obviously has more real world experience with that issue than anyone running by far.

Thinking of voting for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson? Here are their policy positions

From guns to education, etc major policies covered.

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-w...icy-positions/

In his own words on how he'd approach the border issue:



Source and more info:

https://alibertarianfuture.com/2016-...-this-country/

Would be a huge improvement over our current approach and only a few derpa derps actually think a wall will go up and 11 million people deported.
Originally Posted By JimFromRaleigh1⏩
Remember, if a pollster calls you, say you are voting for Gary Johnson and you are libertarian. Let's get this chap 15% in the polls by the 15th of August!

#15bythe15th
Will do, but no pollsters have called this day or any day. They ever call any of you? I always wonder who they poll...
Originally Posted By AetasNitor⏩
Yep, dudes a pure globalist
The total opposite, which tells us you have no clue about Libertarians or GJ, who is far from a true Libertarian BTW. One of the major criticisms of Libertarian is they are isolationist and non interventionist. They don't think we should be the world police.
Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
With the upcoming Romney endorsement (which is being 'PR tested' to see if it tanks him outside of UT) the GOP establishment hope is GJ actually gets electoral votes to prevent either frontrunner getting 270. Hillary winning is a great 2nd prize because it means Mitt and Kristol and the boys can get 'their' party back and keep the corporate donors happy, but congress picking the President would be the absolute best case for them.

Obviously this is why Bernie didn't run, because he might have scored 2-4 states and then it would be down to Paul Ryan to chose Mitt to be the next president.
Romney was the Gov of the state I was in (MA) and he was terrible, unpopular, and do you know who actually set the stage for Obama Care? That would be Romney who gave us Romney care in MA. People should be as mad at Romney as they are at Obama for that POS. I'm no fan of Romney. He'd still be preferable to HC...
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Interesting article in Forbs. Interesting times at least! It's a fascinating possibility that would turn modern politics on its head and truly change the two party stranglehold on the system:

How Libertarian Gary Johnson Could Make This The Weirdest Presidential Election Ever

"The key, according to Lizza is for Johnson/Weld ticket to start polling at around 15 percent, the threshold for being included in national debates with Clinton and Trump.

The interesting, and potentially scary part, is what happens if Johnson’s campaign does get some traction. (Unlike previous third-party Presidential contenders like Ross Perot and John Anderson, Johnson, with his Libertarian party backing, doesn’t have to fight for ballot access.)

Johnson admitted to Lizza that he has chance to win the popular vote, or the electoral vote. His best chance, as he sees it, is to take advantage of an arcane, but potentially huge loophole in electoral law, which would allow Congress to choose the next President and Vice-President."


http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenstj.../#1044c89e7582
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He wants to grant amnesty to current illegals and make it easier to give out work visas. Like that would solve the issue when we already have a large amount illegals overstaying their visas.

People don't seem to realize that giving illegals any amnesty or benefit undermines the efforts of people trying to immigrate LEGALLY. But nobody cares about them of course. Tons of people with better qualifications than the illegals get rejected, but yet we want to reward the rulebreakers. Typical cucked society. You can see this change in society in other things, like the increased blaming of the victims instead of the criminals.

Or complaining about how a criminal who committed heinous acts is being treated poorly. Zero regard for the victims. Funny how the more advanced a society gets, the more it reverts back to a depraved state, albeit a more passive version.
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phuck off OP, you paid GJ shill. Nobody feels the Johnston in this phucking website, we are compromised of High-Test men who want to make America great again ****git



Instead, you should be canvassing for Jill Stein so we can split the Dems up and win the 2016 election. So GTFO witcho Johnson cuck crap
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Originally Posted By tetrasarin⏩
He wants to grant amnesty to current illegals and make it easier to give out work visas. Like that would solve the issue when we already have a large amount illegals overstaying their visas.

People don't seem to realize that giving illegals any amnesty or benefit undermines the efforts of people trying to immigrate LEGALLY. But who cares about them? Tons of people with better qualifications than the illegals get rejected, but yet we want to reward the rulebreakers. Typical cucked society
You should supply sources for his current policy ideas and approaches. Two, the derpa derps will not get their wall, and the approach we have now and have had for decades does not work obviously. If you spend some time trying to really understanding Johnson's approaches, you'll find they are sensible for the most part and realistic. Or, you can go with "but they took our jaaaaaaaaaabs" and continue cycles of nonsense while being used and manipulated like a two dollar whore by new tough guy or criminal... Vid above, posted yet ignored by "but he wants open borders" comments, is above to get an idea of it.

Johnson, like any POTUS, does not wave magic wands and get huge walls built nor open borders, etc. Obama couldn't even get Gitmo closed, which was a central theme of his claims he's achieve as POTUS.
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Originally Posted By iHateDeadlifts⏩
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Then what are you doing here? Shouldn't you be practicing with your WNBA team?
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Originally Posted By BeReRkER⏩
Vote Trump > Johnson. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary unfortunately at least for this election.
This is the attitude that has left us with a choice between Trump and Clinton. People like you say this every election and now the Republicans and the Democrats know that they just have to pander to the greater part of the idiots to get elected. They know that the semi-intelligent will follow whomever more closely aligns with their views even if they don't like them, because they are so scared of how horrible the other outcome would be.

This time, it won't really matter. Hillary or Trump, it's a terrible decision either way. Vote 3rd party just for the sake of getting Democrats and Republicans to realize that there is a growing part of the population who no longer finds themselves aligned with either party and force them to pander to us instead.
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phuck off OP, you paid GJ shill. Nobody feels the Johnston in this phucking website, we are compromised of High-Test men who want to make America great again ****git
Dis you brah?


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Then what are you doing here? Shouldn't you be practicing with your WNBA team?
Chicks in the WNBA would beat him down and look for some real High-Test men...
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Originally Posted By Tier0⏩
Open borders never work. Welfare is irrelevant. People will just vote themselves whatever they want, and your libertarian beliefs go back to irrelevancy. This doesn't even include the amount if trash you could easily allow into your country without proper vetting.

Libertarianism has value in some policy, but lmao at real libertarianism.
Libertarianism is the balance against the leftward shift this country has taken. I don't consider myself to be a libertarian, but I am voting libertarian this election because I don't like the current political discourse. I don't really care to see the 'true' libertarian ideal world come to fruition, but I think a few steps in that direction would be a very good thing.

I think many people who are not libertarian, both on the left and the right, would agree.
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I'm not one to be a one-issue voter, unless it's incredibly significant, but Johnson is a fuking moron.

His support, and plan, to increase private prisons is so inherently, morally, and logically wrong, that I cannot trust anything else that comes out of his mind. Such backward logic.


No Republican or Democrat should support increasing private prisons, nor support their continuing usage.

As a republican:They eat away at tax dollars and do nothing but make the owners rich, while completely subverting the justice system, and making it into nothing more than a cash cow. Where inherently minor crimes are treated with such punishment to warrant increased prison time, that eventually means more tax dollars going to the way of prison owners.

As a democrat:They do nothing to rehabilitate inmates, and have been shown to simply erode any possibility of rehabilitation, while ensuring an increased life of crime. Those found guilty of inherently minor crimes become career criminals as they become lost in the system.
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