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Thread: Staring To Think Allianc3, Jeff Seid etc. Could Be Natty (Pics)

post 1456076493 08-04-2016, 10:26 AM
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Lean, with a pump, good lighting, and 6'0 180. I hope he's natty because it sure looks it.
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post 1456076803 08-04-2016, 10:27 AM
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Easily natty. He's not particularly big in any way. 2-3 years lifting I'd estimate.
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post 1456076843 08-04-2016, 10:27 AM
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here's another pic

post 1456077563 08-04-2016, 10:32 AM
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They aren't even the same person wtf?

Second pic dude has another 2-3 inches on his arms, and delts gained all kinds of cannon ball delt action
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post 1456077743 08-04-2016, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By FriendOfFrank⏩
If he used to look like a skinny fat mess and got that physique in less than a year, you'd have some validity to your accusations.
nahh he always was a skinny *******. been lifting for like 5 years i think
Originally Posted By hbhorat⏩
They aren't even the same person wtf?

Second pic dude has another 2-3 inches on his arms, and delts gained all kinds of cannon ball delt action
same person man.

look at the shoulder vascularity and necklace for proof. but yea they are the same
post 1456077773 08-04-2016, 10:33 AM
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delt vascularity, nah he ain't natty
post 1456077833 08-04-2016, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By fj123⏩
doesnt matter,

w've been to clubs and one time a girl came up and started pouring champagne on his abs and she sucked it off (no joke)


has that happened to you?
maybe if I go to a club one time in my life
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post 1456078113 08-04-2016, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted By hbhorat⏩
They aren't even the same person wtf?

Second pic dude has another 2-3 inches on his arms, and delts gained all kinds of cannon ball delt action
This. What the average juicer looks like at gyms. So, I can see it. Def attainable natty, but you'd be surprised nowadays who is juicin and who isn't
post 1456078263 08-04-2016, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By fj123⏩
nahh he always was a skinny *******. been lifting for like 5 years i think
If he has always been skinny, lifted for five years consistently, I'm not surprised that he can easily be this lean at that size.

Dude probably gets shredded as soon as he gets close to maintenance.
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post 1456078273 08-04-2016, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
This. What the average juicer looks like at gyms. So, I can see it. Def attainable natty, but you'd be surprised nowadays who is juicin and who isn't
its the same person fella. second pic is why i think he's on dat dere

not joking.

one is an older pic though (the top one), the pics are like a year apart
post 1456078303 08-04-2016, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Only reason someone would say this is if they lack perspective due to their own shortcomings.

You idiots really believe every random poster on an Internet forum with impressive results is lying to you?
for example
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/com...ransformation/
plz shut up
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He probably on dat juice, srs.

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post 1456079623 08-04-2016, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted By motivationplzdo⏩
for example
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/com...ransformation/
plz shut up
Accusing this guy of being non-natty?? You must look like trash if this is out of the realm of possibilities:



post 1456079983 08-04-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Mehhzyy⏩
How do you even tell if you have good insertions?
Do your abs look like a scrabble board?
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post 1456081193 08-04-2016, 10:55 AM
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I think someone is playing shenanigans with this thrad
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Accusing this guy of being non-natty?? You must look like trash if this is out of the realm of possibilities:



lol sorry but this. That guy looks average AF
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Accusing this guy of being non-natty?? You must look like trash if this is out of the realm of possibilities:



lol at he pics you used


in one year
post 1456083003 08-04-2016, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
Accusing this guy of being non-natty?? You must look like trash if this is out of the realm of possibilities:


wtf.. guys back area looks weird as fuk
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Originally Posted By motivationplzdo⏩
lol at he pics you used


in one year
If you wanna keep fighting this that EVERYONE is deceiving you and non natty then I'm gonna let you cause it's pretty fukin pathetic Peter. You're grasping and you really seem to make some knee jerk reactions to a picture here or a picture there because those pictures make you feel insecure in some way.

Even the pic you posted, he gained like no mass in his chest, simply rounded out his delts and put on a very very reasonable amount of mass for a natural in 1 year ESPECIALLY with a starting point with so much room for growth.

You only hurt yourself with negative attitudes and excuses m8.
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Originally Posted By 4Adz4⏩
Do your abs look like a scrabble board?
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Originally Posted By Retoaded⏩
I think someone is playing shenanigans with this thrad
the thread i made about my buddy was merged with this one idk why
post 1456084453 08-04-2016, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By fj123⏩
its the same person fella. second pic is why i think he's on dat dere

not joking.

one is an older pic though (the top one), the pics are like a year apart
the only way he would be cycling is if he went from super skinny to what he is now in a very short period of time. Again, if hes not natty hes a BAD cyclist... Theres nothing overly impressive about his physique. Decent abs and arms that appear to be 2-3%BF higher then his torso.
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post 1456084673 08-04-2016, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By fj123⏩
the thread i made about my buddy was merged with this one idk why
Because it has the same crappy sentiment all these other threads have:

If someone looks decent they MUST be non natty. Ignore the possibility they are above average and better than you because that's a hard pill to swallow.
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No, both of those guys in the OP are celltech users, same for the other guy. Natty limits are depressingly weak for 99% of people. You will never seen big and shredded as a natural. You can build an aesthetic good looking body if you have the insertions but you will never be objectively (big) while shredded, it does not happen.

It doesn't matter what is possible or not, most of the time when you see someone claiming natty who looks better than 99% of natties they are just using low dose creatine
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Originally Posted By ArmsOfHope⏩
The variance between humans is pretty large.

Just look around your gym at all the guys who have been there 3 years plus count macros etc and still they don't look like they even lift.

Nobody would suspect the most dedicated guys in my gym who spill out advice regarding lifting, actually lift.

Then there are some guys who walk in day one at 16, 17, 21 or 25 with great muscle tone, 8-10% bodyfat from eating what they want. Look like they lift eat properly etc and more often than not, they don't.

Look at this miscer whose been lifting a year:






Now look at these random 16 year olds who probably lack structured training and diet:





I knew several of the latter growing up who just looked like that from playing rugby or did athletics in high school. They were naturally strong and had muscle tone from early childhood.

If they lifted had proper diets they would have a far higher natural limit than the miscer in the example (no hate).

You can't attach some arbitrary limit (Oh you can only gain X amount of muscle, ffmi, can't be this lean year round etc) on the guys who already start off way ahead of the pack.

Jeff Seid looked just like the kids I knew who dominated sports at early ages and he chose to lift and eat properly and he got a great result.

Not saying he is natty but I think he could have got to his physique when he was 190 ripped at 18-19 before he blew up natty.

To paraphrase Rich Piana:

"I see black guys in the ghetto digging in trash bins for food who look better that 90% of gym goers."
High school is rife with drugs, especially here in the UK where you can buy creatine in a high street shop.

If you want to know what natural genetic variation looks like then watch a film reel of pre-1940s olympic sports. Stop being such a delusional prat.
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Its all about genetics. Guy I went to high school with was ripped as **** in grade 8 and could bench 315 for reps. Was definitely not on the juice then, body has always looked the same.
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Originally Posted By BaconBackBrah⏩
Natty limits are depressingly weak for 99% of people. You will never seen big and shredded as a natural. You can build an aesthetic good looking body if you have the insertions but you will never be objectively (big) while shredded, it does not happen.
"Big" to a gym rat that has been mirin' pictures of Ronnie Coleman since age 12? No, but big to the general public? Sure.
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Originally Posted By nzgs⏩
High school is rife with drugs, especially here in the UK where you can buy creatine in a high street shop.

If you want to know what natural genetic variation looks like then watch a film reel of pre-1940s olympic sports. Stop being such a delusional prat.
They had higher test though back then right?
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Originally Posted By Roasted⏩
"Big" to a gym rat that has been mirin' pictures of Ronnie Coleman since age 12? No, but big to the general public? Sure.
You won't look like you lift in a regular shirt unless it's really tight at the arms and chest.
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