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post 1456568393 08-07-2016, 10:26 PM
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The hateful eight really sucked ass altho it had some funny moments
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Originally Posted By TheFaithfull⏩
All the godfathers. I've tried so many times to like it but it's so boring
This . they DO NOT hold up well over time, very very Slow developing story and long scenes. Good for their time.

I didn't read all 240 posts, but I sure hope some one mentioned District 9 .. G Damn it it got like 98% from all critics. thing was awful after the 1st 30 minutes. wanted all characters to die by the end.
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post 1456569243 08-07-2016, 10:36 PM
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Interstellar was decent, but the entire concept of love being so overplayed there made it unbearing.

I watched Shawshank like 5 times, with that being said, I understand why some people wouldn't find it so amazing. It's just a decent story. It has no good motives, no good metaphors, it doesn't even try to explore underlying thoughts and ideas, it's just a plain make you feel good story. It's not exceptional. If you think it is, you are artistically brain dead and a pleb. I still like the movie for what it is, though.
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post 1456569973 08-07-2016, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
.........y, Saving Private Ryan,E.......


seriously... give me 2 reasons why this is not one of the best movies ever made.
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post 1456570603 08-07-2016, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Mullahz218⏩
It's just a decent story. It has no good motives, no good metaphors, it doesn't even try to explore underlying thoughts and ideas, it's just a plain make you feel good story. It's not exceptional. If you think it is, you are artistically brain dead and a pleb.
Objectively false. "His judgement cometh and that right soon...". The warden keeps his cooked books locked up in his safe behind his framed Christian quote, and it becomes his undoing. When he looks inside his safe, all he finds is a bible with the pages cut out where Andy kept his rock pic, and a note on the the cover that says something like "You were right warden, salvation comes from within." The Christian man in charge of dolling out punishment to the "sinners" was the most crooked of all. It's some of the strongest symbolism I've ever seen. If you don't think so, you are artistically brain dead and a pleb. I don't really want to insult you, but you're being a dick and couldn't possibly know less about what you're talking about.
post 1456571203 08-07-2016, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted By DirkBiggler⏩
Objectively false. "His judgement cometh and that right soon...". The warden keeps his cooked books locked up in his safe behind his framed Christian quote, and it becomes his undoing. When he looks inside his safe, all he finds is a bible with the pages cut out where Andy kept his rock pic, and a note on the the cover that says something like "You were right warden, salvation comes from within." The Christian man in charge of dolling out punishment to the "sinners" was the most crooked of all. It's some of the strongest symbolism I've ever seen. If you don't think so, you are artistically brain dead and a pleb. I don't really want to insult you, but you're being a dick and couldn't possibly know less about what you're talking about.
you might be right, but that's a side story within the main story. The main story is about friendship.
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post 1456572093 08-07-2016, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Mullahz218⏩
you might be right, but that's a side story within the main story. The main story is about friendship.
It all builds up to that moment, it's the climax of the film. The warden starts his religious proselytizing immediately upon Andy coming to prison. Andy starts to cook the books of the warden and all the guards, with the warden always putting his personal books behind the "His judgement cometh and that right soon..." picture, which you see multiple times throughout the movie. The warden does some despicable chit in the movie, and his actual judgement comes stronger than anyones in an amazingly ironic way.



Now I'll agree that the ending is super feel-goody, but there is a lot more to the movie than you described.
post 1456573173 08-07-2016, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Mullahz218⏩
you might be right, but that's a side story within the main story. The main story is about friendship.
I think that's fairly simplistic, considering how much of the story is about institutions and how individuals are shaped into conforming to them. Do you really think the Redd and the patrol board scenes are just put in the movie multiple times for effect? There are multiple occasions of individual defiance against systemic oppression in the movie, and Redd's actions at the final hearing are the clearest demonstration of the theme throughout the movie that standing up for yourself and acting on your own as opposed to doing what you're "supposed to" gives you real freedom. The earlier points about the Warden and his corrupt and by the numbers approach to reform and rehabilitation only underscores this point.

Some other examples being the beers on the rooftop, the rapists, and the poster, although obviously the narrative ang logical push has to be toward escaping the prison.
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post 1456573473 08-07-2016, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted By RoccoTanno123⏩
I think that's fairly simplistic, considering how much of the story is about institutions and how individuals are shaped into conforming to them. Do you really think the Redd and the patrol board scenes are just put in the movie multiple times for effect? There are multiple occasions of individual defiance against systemic oppression in the movie, and Redd's actions at the final hearing are the clearest demonstration of the theme throughout the movie that standing up for yourself and acting on your own as opposed to doing what you're "supposed to" gives you real freedom.
I don't think Red's actions in the end mean what you said. My interpretation on it is that rather than 'standing up for yourself' he swallowed his pride and finally realized there is a life outside of the prison. Before meeting Andy he wasn't ever thinking of coming out. He wasn't thinking about the crime he did at all - it didn't matter to him. He was derisive of the system and didn't even think about conforming to it for release.

In the end though, he just wanted to see his friend so badly, so he did what needed to be done. He dropped his pride, and admitted - admitted he always thought about the crime, about how stupid he was. It wasn't much of an individual defiance.
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post 1456574013 08-07-2016, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Mullahz218⏩
I don't think Red's actions in the end mean what you said. My interpretation on it is that rather than 'standing up for yourself' he swallowed his pride and finally realized there is a life outside of the prison. Before meeting Andy he wasn't ever thinking of coming out. He wasn't thinking about the crime he did at all - it didn't matter to him. He was derisive of the system and didn't even think about conforming to it for release.

In the end though, he just wanted to see his friend so badly, so he did what needed to be done. He dropped his pride, and admitted - admitted he always thought about the crime, about how stupid he was. It wasn't much of an individual defiance.
Nah, I think you should look at the performances at the end. At the end, Redd "doesn't give damn" he speaks what he truly thinks and feels. He doesn't recite the canned stuff he thinks he's supposed to say to get out. He's heard what others said before--and we see a depiction of what happens to somebody who gets out and can't live with the new responsbility, etc. Obviously, you're right that Redd has personally matured a lot since the start of the movie which is partly why it is so feel good and friendship oriented at the end, because the Redd we see at the start of the movie isn't read to be free. He's become adept at manipulating the prison system to get what he wants, and that's largely all he knows. By the end of the movie, he's willing to leave his super-trader life behind. He's already seen stuff like Andy risk his life just to get the roof crew a few beers, so they felt like they did when they were free on the outside again.
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post 1456574113 08-07-2016, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted By sokenheim⏩
The Departed
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Dude... The departed and shutter island were legendary. How can you say that?!
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Originally Posted By RoccoTanno123⏩
Nah, I think you should look at the performances at the end. At the end, Redd "doesn't give damn" he speaks what he truly thinks and feels. He doesn't recite the canned stuff he thinks he's supposed to say to get out. He's heard what others said before--and we see a depiction of what happens to somebody who gets out and can't live with the new responsbility, etc. Obviously, you're right that Redd has personally matured a lot since the start of the movie which is partly why it is so feel good and friendship oriented at the end, because the Redd we see at the start of the movie isn't read to be free. He's become adept at manipulating the prison system to get what he wants, and that's largely all he knows. By the end of the movie, he's willing to leave his super-trader life behind. He's already seen stuff like Andy risk his life just to get the roof crew a few beers, so they felt like they did when they were free on the outside again.
Fukin love Shawshank. Alongside friendship, one of the main themes for me is freedom. Freedom from the prison, freedom from institutionalization but for me the biggest one is just freedom of the bondage that you are your mind. You're not, you're so much greater than your mind.

It's not overrated at all, it's very much needed in this day and age of debt, corporate slavery and identifying with the mind.
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Originally Posted By DirkBiggler⏩
The thing with Citizen Kane and The Godfather is that even if you don't like them, they were so innovative that they paved the way for the movies that came after them. Some of your favorite movies undoubtedly are the way they are because of those two films.



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i get that argument, but there's a time where you have to skew the nostalgia and "ahead of its time" aspect and rationally rate the movie, by modern standards its completely dog **** with pacing acting dialogue, even our worst movies released in 2016 trump it in every aspect so the revolutionary aspect is significantly diminished. as far as godfather I'm pretty sure full metal jacket came out nearly the same time and that movie still holds weight by modern day standards. if you compare side by side casino beats out godfather.
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Originally Posted By Jerma⏩
i get that argument, but there's a time where you have to skew the nostalgia and "ahead of its time" aspect and rationally rate the movie, by modern standards its completely dog **** with pacing acting dialogue, even our worst movies released in 2016 trump it in every aspect so the revolutionary aspect is significantly diminished. as far as godfather I'm pretty sure full metal jacket came out nearly the same time and that movie still holds weight by modern day standards. if you compare side by side casino beats out godfather.
Again, I don't think The Godfather is just good for it's time, it's good period. The pacing is slow but that's it, and I'm not even agreeing that that's necessarily a bad thing. I love Casino (and Goodfellas, thought I'd throw that in because that's what the Godfather is compared to more often), they're all great movies. And you think the dialogue and acting are bad? Watch this scene (and the two I posted before) and say the dialogue and acting aren't fantastic.

Originally Posted By Jerma⏩
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imdb top 250 is overrated af by people who like to think they have superior taste because they identify subtleties of film making..

brb just because a movie is accurate and has excellent directing/producing/etc..its allowed to be boring? fuk that noise, pretentious fuks
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Originally Posted By Dontoewsmebro⏩
V for Vendetta
Definitely this.

When this came out everyone at school raved about it like it was some must-see movie. I couldn't even finish it. I thought it was boring as hell.
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Originally Posted By TSBrah⏩
imdb top 250 is overrated af by people who like to think they have superior taste because they identify subtleties of film making..

brb just because a movie is accurate and has excellent directing/producing/etc..its allowed to be boring? fuk that noise, pretentious fuks
What? It's the exact opposite. You couldn't have posted something less correct if you tried. The Dark Knight is number 4. Now I like The Dark Knight, but it's not even close to being the fourth best movie of all time. It's not like the ratings are set by ivory tower critics, IMDB is THE site people go to for info about movies, the scores are all set by regular people who give their pet film 10/10. Here's the list, you know where Citizen Kane (widely considered the greatest film of all time by the people you call "pretentious fuks") is? 67.

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top
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Originally Posted By DirkBiggler⏩
What? It's the exact opposite. You couldn't have posted something less correct if you tried. The Dark Knight is number 4. Now I like The Dark Knight, but it's not even close to being the fourth best movie of all time. It's not like the ratings are set by ivory tower critics, IMDB is THE site people go to for info about movies, the scores are all set by regular people who give their pet film 10/10. Here's the list, you know where Citizen Kane (widely considered the greatest film of all time by the people you call "pretentious fuks") is? 67.

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top
the general public is idiotic, they rate things highly because they're "supposed" to like it, look at stranger things, even tho its a good tv show, the hype is insane..comical. People conform to society norms.
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Originally Posted By TSBrah⏩
the general public is idiotic, they rate things highly because they're "supposed" to like it, look at stranger things, even tho its a good tv show, the hype is insane..comical. People conform to society norms.
So, you're just gonna ignore that TDK is number 4 and Citizen Kane is 67? There couldn't be a more perfect dismissal of your argument. Just admit you were wrong.
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So, you're just gonna ignore that TDK is number 4 and Citizen Kane is 67? There couldn't be a more perfect dismissal of your argument. Just admit you were wrong.
i've never watched citizen kane so i can't say where it should stand, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

My point is, godfather shouldn't even be on the list lol..let alone top 5
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Originally Posted By TSBrah⏩
i've never watched citizen kane so i can't say where it should stand, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
That isn't relevant, if what you said was true, TDK, Forrest Gump, Inception, The Matrix, etc would not be above Casablanca and Citizen Kane. It was just a false statement from any way you look at it.
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My point is, godfather shouldn't even be on the list lol..let alone top 5
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Originally Posted By DirkBiggler⏩
That isn't relevant, if what you said was true, TDK, Forrest Gump, Inception, The Matrix, etc would not be above Casablanca and Citizen Kane. It was just a false statement from any way you look at it.



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bro, tdk, forrest gump, inception, the matrix are 10x more popular than casablanca and citizen kane, of course it'll be rated higher

love the patronizing tho!
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
Nolan's Batman movies, particularly Dark Knight. (Got so hyped up due to Heath dying. He was pretty good in it, but everyone exaggerated how good, Mark Hamil crushes him. He was in like 10 - 15 minutes of the movie or some sh!t.) Best thing about any of those movies is the Gordon "not the hero Gothan needs" quote. And that's not because it's a good piece of dialogue. Sh!t is corny as fuk but can be used to comedic effect.

Fuk most of Nolan's movies, actually. I really don't like his style of film making.
Ledger was in 33 minutes of the movie, which is ranked number 4 on IMDB's all-time list. Ledger won best supporting actor Oscar and to this day is the best live-action Joker. When great material collides with a great performance special things happen. Iconic scenes, and nearly every line he spoke in the movie is quotable to this day.

For comparison, can anything name one memorable line Leto spoke as Joker? Laughing maniacally and shooting a machine gun is entertaining to dumb people, but Heath Ledger is the thinking man's Joker and the Joker for an entire generation.
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Originally Posted By TSBrah⏩
bro, tdk, forrest gump, inception, the matrix are 10x more popular than casablanca and citizen kane, of course it'll be rated higher
That was exactly my point...do you even remember how this exchange started?
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love the patronizing tho!
Glass houses. You called people who appreciate filmmaking pretentious fuks and basically said that people who rate movies on IMDB are sheep so...I really don't know where you put yourself on the spectrum of people who enjoy movies.
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Originally Posted By DirkBiggler⏩
That was exactly my point...do you even remember how this exchange started?



Glass houses. You called people who appreciate filmmaking pretentious fuks and basically said that people who rate movies on IMDB are sheep so...I really don't know where you put yourself on the spectrum of people who enjoy movies.
how are you refuting my point exactly? i said imdb top 250 is overrated, how did i contradict that?

Human nature is to follow societal trends is what i meant by the people are sheep comment, are you going to refute this?

How i judge a movie whether its transformers or godfather is...was i entertained because at the end of the day that's what a movie is supposed to do, doesn't matter how it does it.
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Originally Posted By TSBrah⏩
how are you refuting my point exactly? i said imdb top 250 is overrated, how did i contradict that?
Don't shift the goal posts, you said it was overrated by a specific group of people when the opposite was true. I already gave you examples but you just ignored them, I'm not going to make the same argument when you can just scroll back up the page a bit.
Originally Posted By TSBrah⏩
Human nature is to follow societal trends is what i meant by the people are sheep comment, are you going to refute this?
Again, you really need to read both of our earlier posts again, I was pointing out contradictory statements you made about being condescending, I did not say the individual statement was wrong.
Originally Posted By TSBrah⏩
How i judge a movie whether its transformers or godfather is...was i entertained because at the end of the day that's what a movie is supposed to do, doesn't matter how it does it.
That's fine, that's a perfectly good way to think about movies and how you rate them. And that's exactly the way the ratings for IMDB seem to add up, seems those sheep think a lot like you. Serously, look at the rest of the list BESIDES the two Godfather movies at numbers 2 and 3. It's rated by people in exactly the way you said you rate movies. Not the most important movies, or the most "artsy movies", they're movies the general population enjoys. Your personal dislike for The Godfather is causing you to ignore that you were wrong about the list.
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