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post 1457711533 08-15-2016, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By W1LLW
So much british cope, but I do degree swimming medals are negligible. brb on person capable of going home with 5+ medals.

China has the best gold resume in my opinion.
Gymnastics is similar in that one person can get 5 medals (think one of our women is on track to get 5).

In the end, it doesn't really matter. US will get the most overall medals. Other countries can cry all they want but it doesn't change the fact that yes, we are bigger and better than most. China is the biggest by far but US will reign supreme regardless.

Personally, I thought it was cool to see the US get the medals in swimming in gymnastics. But otherwise I couldn't care less about those sports. I'd like to see some weightlifting (which the US won't even place) and wrestling. Mainly I just want to get past the Olympics and into football season because that's the GOAT sport to watch.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz
this is the problem with Americans. you prolly think if Lebron played football (soccer to you cucks) he would be good.

cringe.
Nobody thinks that. But nobody cares about your sport here. And to my knowledge, there are no British NBA or NFL players. Although supposedly 'American Football' is catching on there somewhat. Not sure if that is true.
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Originally Posted By W1LLW
China has the best gold resume in my opinion.
Yeah, 3459870234 medals in diving is super impressive and somehow better than all the swimming medals

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Fiji beat Great Britain 43-7 in the Rugby 7's gold medal game. Cucked hard by a tiny island nation of 880,000. L-O-L !
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Originally Posted By arn710
Yeah, 3459870234 medals in diving is super impressive and somehow better than all the swimming medals

Nah son
This. US has medals in 16 sports. China has medals in 13 sports.
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Originally Posted By CommonPheasant
Fiji beat Great Britain 43-7 in the Rugby 7's gold medal game. Cucked hard by a tiny island nation of 880,000. L-O-L !
yea we were.

fair play to the Fiji brahs.
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Originally Posted By Woodyy
Lol these threads never go well as there are so many Americans on this board.

The fact of the matter is that they are by far and away the best in the world at swimming and because there are SO many medals available in swimming they top the medal table. If swimming was as condensed as most other sports they'd probably be around the same medal count as us and China.

No one can deny Britain does extremely well based on our population. What America achieves isn't impressive especially considering the swimming medals on offer.
about 500 of the 2700 medals America has ever won have been at swimming. So erase swimming completely, shall we? That leaves 2200 medals, no other country is even at 1000 yet.

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Originally Posted By hendrixfreak70
Well, we won the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, and the war on crooked teeth.
As we have tried to advise Ameribrahs many times, you have never won a war on your own, as per yahoo, Wikipedia etc.:

"The USA War of Independence was essentially a French fight against Britain; France supplied troops,
powder and arms, its navy...and defeated the British with the help of US land armies and privateers.
When Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown, he offered his sword to the French General who made him hand it over to General Washington. The battle itself, however, was one of bombardment of British positions surrounded by French and American infantry all blockaded by the French Navy.

The USA entered WW1 as a decisive factor, but by no means as the only deciding factor. For example, the influenza epidemic struck the German Army viciously just as it was launching its last
major offensives(operations Georgette and Michael)and that was far more impactful than the arrival of US troops. Also the #1 fighting force in WW1 on the Western Front in terms of efficiency and inflicting damage was the Canadian forces. The British studied the Canadian style and tactics after the war in their top military programs; the German army itself tended to fear/respect Canadian opposing forces moreso than other forces... The USA had an impact, but it was late in the war and was ironically more of a political one via Wilson's offers to Kaiser Wilhelm for a settlement.

In WW2 the USA entered the war two years after New Zealand did so. Hollywood and highly nationalistic history books have greatly distorted the sacrifices of the USA in WW2. For example,
the USSR lost more soldiers in the singular Battle of Stalingrad than the USA lost in soldiers in all the war in both theatres of the war combined. There was also the myth that the USA enabled the USSR to fight, but the USSR's policy was to build all its war machines and weaponry - and did so - but certainly the USSR was aided with other essential war goods such as corrugated tin and waterproof communications cable...

The USA was involved in Vietnam far earlier than most Americans realize. For example, CIA pilots flew French marked planes at the Battle of Dien Ben Phu<sp> and helped resupply the French forces. In a great sense - some would say arrogant sense - the USA took over the French war effort there with the attitude that the French were just inadequate and that the USA could 'easily' accomplish what the French failed to do.

Most wars involve foreign involvement of some nature. The U.S. Civil War, for example, involved a tremendous amount of foreign involvement ie. the C.S.A. was loaned/granted the ability to issue bonds based on its dealings with the house of either Erlanger or Rothchilde. Britain sold the CSA numerous arms ie. the raiders CSS Alabama and CSS Florida which caused along with other raiders enormous damage to the Union's merchant fleet. Whitworth cannons and mortars and Lee-Enfield
rifles were sold to the CSA. Meanwhile, Britain also traded heavily with the Union in regard to wheat and other agricultural products... France, even surrepticiously offered a deal to Texas in which France would recognize the sovereignty of Texas if it would secede from the CSA and become a buffer state with Mexico. The Vatican is the only foreign power to officially grant the CSA formal recognition.

Wars are ugly...but there's also that famous quote that wars are simply foreign policy conducted by other more forceful means. The USA is nor 'special'; it blunders into wars and ugly alliances just like all other nations have done historically. I was reading a book awhile back where a 19th century observer visited the USA and was impressed by the USA's system of forts used to combat and control native American uprisings. He took the observations he had made and applied them to Afghanistan..."
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No, USA clearly has the better athletes as they have the most medals, but having such an insane amount to choose from makes it easier/more likely to find lots of great athletes so that's where per capita comes in.

However there is plenty of countries beating Britain per capita also, so not sure of the point of this thread.
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Originally Posted By CommonPheasant
Fiji beat Great Britain 43-7 in the Rugby 7's gold medal game. Cucked hard by a tiny island nation of 880,000. L-O-L !
Fiji 24-19 USA, but yeah we'll just ignore that brah
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Hate to break it to you OP but very few Americans grow up wanting to be in the olympics. Strong cope to make you feel better about your chitty country tho. Let me know when you have a baseball/basketball/football team that could come close to the US
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just lol @ the guy quoting wikipedia...

So by default we, the North, beat the brits in the civil war?!?!?!

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Do you know where most of those British athletes train?

That's right America, they are using American facilities, America infrastructure, American coaches etc.

Most of those medals really belong to America.

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Originally Posted By Hammersia
As we have tried to advise Ameribrahs many times, you have never won a war on your own, as per yahoo, Wikipedia etc.:

"The USA War of Independence was essentially a French fight against Britain; France supplied troops,
powder and arms, its navy...and defeated the British with the help of US land armies and privateers.
When Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown, he offered his sword to the French General who made him hand it over to General Washington. The battle itself, however, was one of bombardment of British positions surrounded by French and American infantry all blockaded by the French Navy.

The USA entered WW1 as a decisive factor, but by no means as the only deciding factor. For example, the influenza epidemic struck the German Army viciously just as it was launching its last
major offensives(operations Georgette and Michael)and that was far more impactful than the arrival of US troops. Also the #1 fighting force in WW1 on the Western Front in terms of efficiency and inflicting damage was the Canadian forces. The British studied the Canadian style and tactics after the war in their top military programs; the German army itself tended to fear/respect Canadian opposing forces moreso than other forces... The USA had an impact, but it was late in the war and was ironically more of a political one via Wilson's offers to Kaiser Wilhelm for a settlement.

In WW2 the USA entered the war two years after New Zealand did so. Hollywood and highly nationalistic history books have greatly distorted the sacrifices of the USA in WW2. For example,
the USSR lost more soldiers in the singular Battle of Stalingrad than the USA lost in soldiers in all the war in both theatres of the war combined. There was also the myth that the USA enabled the USSR to fight, but the USSR's policy was to build all its war machines and weaponry - and did so - but certainly the USSR was aided with other essential war goods such as corrugated tin and waterproof communications cable...

The USA was involved in Vietnam far earlier than most Americans realize. For example, CIA pilots flew French marked planes at the Battle of Dien Ben Phu<sp> and helped resupply the French forces. In a great sense - some would say arrogant sense - the USA took over the French war effort there with the attitude that the French were just inadequate and that the USA could 'easily' accomplish what the French failed to do.

Most wars involve foreign involvement of some nature. The U.S. Civil War, for example, involved a tremendous amount of foreign involvement ie. the C.S.A. was loaned/granted the ability to issue bonds based on its dealings with the house of either Erlanger or Rothchilde. Britain sold the CSA numerous arms ie. the raiders CSS Alabama and CSS Florida which caused along with other raiders enormous damage to the Union's merchant fleet. Whitworth cannons and mortars and Lee-Enfield
rifles were sold to the CSA. Meanwhile, Britain also traded heavily with the Union in regard to wheat and other agricultural products... France, even surrepticiously offered a deal to Texas in which France would recognize the sovereignty of Texas if it would secede from the CSA and become a buffer state with Mexico. The Vatican is the only foreign power to officially grant the CSA formal recognition.

Wars are ugly...but there's also that famous quote that wars are simply foreign policy conducted by other more forceful means. The USA is nor 'special'; it blunders into wars and ugly alliances just like all other nations have done historically. I was reading a book awhile back where a 19th century observer visited the USA and was impressed by the USA's system of forts used to combat and control native American uprisings. He took the observations he had made and applied them to Afghanistan..."
We still use privateers, they're call contractors now. Brits and most every other country does the same thing too. Most every country uses alliances to get their wars done. Brits are known for this as well brah.And lets not forget the US and UK are the closest of allies in the first place everywhere except on the misc it seems.
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Originally Posted By CommonPheasant
Fiji beat Great Britain 43-7 in the Rugby 7's gold medal game. Cucked hard by a tiny island nation of 880,000. L-O-L !
And you got "cucked" (stupid fukin word btw) by Vietnam.

Never won a major war by yourself, you either turn up late like a ******* or only act hard when your mates are around.
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Originally Posted By Woodyy
And you got "cucked" (stupid fukin word btw) by Vietnam.

Never won a major war by yourself, you either turn up late like a ******* or only act hard when your mates are around.
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Originally Posted By Woodyy
And you got "cucked" (stupid fukin word btw) by Vietnam.

Never won a major war by yourself, you either turn up late like a ******* or only act hard when your mates are around.
war of 1812 m8, remember dat
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Originally Posted By TheGaucho
Hate to break it to you OP but very few Americans grow up wanting to be in the olympics. Strong cope to make you feel better about your chitty country tho. Let me know when you have abaseball/basketball/footballteam that could come close to the US
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Originally Posted By Woodyy
Never won a major war by yourself, you either turn up late like a ******* or only act hard when your mates are around.
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz
yea, funn, right? It'll never happen, you guys don't have the same caliber of athlete.

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Originally Posted By Woodyy
And you got "cucked" (stupid fukin word btw) by Vietnam.

Never won a major war by yourself, you either turn up late like a ******* or only act hard when your mates are around.
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Originally Posted By StrongFella
yea, funn, right? It'll never happen, you guys don't have the same caliber of athlete.

cheers.
literally no other country cares about baseball, basketball or american football. you even call yourselves 'world champions', lmao.

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Originally Posted By Woodyy
The fact of the matter is that they are by far and away the best in the world at swimming and because there are SO many medals available in swimming they top the medal table. If swimming was as condensed as most other sports they'd probably be around the same medal count as us and China.
What's mind blowing to me though is that team sports only count for one medal in the 'medal count'. Brb you and your bros play baskeball, soccer or hockey for two weeks, win gold, get only one medal for your country. Meanwhile some guy swims/runs for 15 seconds, wins one medal. Then next day, swims/runs another 40 seconds, wins another. Then does a team relay two hours later, wins another medal.

Basketball should be worth 12 medals for the winners for the tally, soccer worth 11, and hockey more than 20 since there are that many players on each team and they each spent several cumulative hours playing compared to some runner or swimmer who competed 2 minutes total.
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Originally Posted By Hammersia
As we have tried to advise Ameribrahs many times, you have never won a war on your own, as per yahoo, Wikipedia etc.:

"The USA War of Independence was essentially a French fight against Britain; France supplied troops,
powder and arms, its navy...and defeated the British with the help of US land armies and privateers.
When Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown, he offered his sword to the French General who made him hand it over to General Washington. The battle itself, however, was one of bombardment of British positions surrounded by French and American infantry all blockaded by the French Navy.

The USA entered WW1 as a decisive factor, but by no means as the only deciding factor. For example, the influenza epidemic struck the German Army viciously just as it was launching its last
major offensives(operations Georgette and Michael)and that was far more impactful than the arrival of US troops. Also the #1 fighting force in WW1 on the Western Front in terms of efficiency and inflicting damage was the Canadian forces. The British studied the Canadian style and tactics after the war in their top military programs; the German army itself tended to fear/respect Canadian opposing forces moreso than other forces... The USA had an impact, but it was late in the war and was ironically more of a political one via Wilson's offers to Kaiser Wilhelm for a settlement.

In WW2 the USA entered the war two years after New Zealand did so. Hollywood and highly nationalistic history books have greatly distorted the sacrifices of the USA in WW2. For example,
the USSR lost more soldiers in the singular Battle of Stalingrad than the USA lost in soldiers in all the war in both theatres of the war combined. There was also the myth that the USA enabled the USSR to fight, but the USSR's policy was to build all its war machines and weaponry - and did so - but certainly the USSR was aided with other essential war goods such as corrugated tin and waterproof communications cable...

The USA was involved in Vietnam far earlier than most Americans realize. For example, CIA pilots flew French marked planes at the Battle of Dien Ben Phu<sp> and helped resupply the French forces. In a great sense - some would say arrogant sense - the USA took over the French war effort there with the attitude that the French were just inadequate and that the USA could 'easily' accomplish what the French failed to do.

Most wars involve foreign involvement of some nature. The U.S. Civil War, for example, involved a tremendous amount of foreign involvement ie. the C.S.A. was loaned/granted the ability to issue bonds based on its dealings with the house of either Erlanger or Rothchilde. Britain sold the CSA numerous arms ie. the raiders CSS Alabama and CSS Florida which caused along with other raiders enormous damage to the Union's merchant fleet. Whitworth cannons and mortars and Lee-Enfield
rifles were sold to the CSA. Meanwhile, Britain also traded heavily with the Union in regard to wheat and other agricultural products... France, even surrepticiously offered a deal to Texas in which France would recognize the sovereignty of Texas if it would secede from the CSA and become a buffer state with Mexico. The Vatican is the only foreign power to officially grant the CSA formal recognition.

Wars are ugly...but there's also that famous quote that wars are simply foreign policy conducted by other more forceful means. The USA is nor 'special'; it blunders into wars and ugly alliances just like all other nations have done historically. I was reading a book awhile back where a 19th century observer visited the USA and was impressed by the USA's system of forts used to combat and control native American uprisings. He took the observations he had made and applied them to Afghanistan..."




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