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Thread: Never Trumpers(aka Republicans for Hillary), how can you let the SUPREME COURT fall?

post 1459589943 08-27-2016, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Dead fuking serious. I'm not here to argue any other issue except the Supreme Court. Even if you hate everything else about Trump, how can you not vote for him on the Supreme Court alone?

I'm seriously trying to understand since I have friends who are nevertrumpers and who cannot provide me a solid answer on this issue.

And don't tell me "oh you have know way of knowing he'll do what he says". BS. But ok, fine. Let's assume for a minute that there is no way of knowing if he'll elect conservative justices and follow through... That STILL means there is at least a 50/50 chance.

You KNOW FOR A FACT who Hillary will put in the court. So why in God's name would you not vote Trump on this issue alone?

I really do want to understand. I'm not here to argue any other issue. Just the Supreme Court. So please help me understand.
Trump will select a conservative justice, dems will block, Trump won't push the issue, he'll come back around with a moderate.
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These "principled" conservatives are willing to let the Supreme Court go full retard liberal mode just so they can say how conservative they are.

Doesn't make any sense at all.
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Originally Posted By ShooterMcGainin⏩
Trump will select a conservative justice, dems will block, Trump won't push the issue, he'll come back around with a moderate.
The dems will block? You're either trolling or medically autistic. You have zero understanding of politics.

How on earth could dems block? Is it the understood duty of the next president to elect the justices. Even if someone could block him(which they can't), the republicans have a majority in the house. So how exactly are you thinking the democrats have any chance to block Trump?
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post 1459590963 08-27-2016, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
The dems will block? You're either trolling or medically autistic. You have zero understanding of politics.

How on earth could dems block? Is it the understood duty of the next president to elect the justices. Even if someone could block him(which they can't), the republicans have a majority in the house. So how exactly are you thinking the democrats have any chance to block Trump?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsucc..._United_States

dems will hold senate

See Reagan's nomination of Robert Bork
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post 1459591333 08-27-2016, 05:00 PM
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Trump wins anyway so this doesn't much matter. The only way Clinton wins is to rig the vote by pushing no ID at the booths. You see it now with them rigging the polls for it to appear Clinton is ahead, that way you wouldn't be shocked if she won. If she successfully rigs the election and the inevitable recount, you've damned your children and their children. You don't become a multimillionaire on a government salary.
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Please tell me how Donald Trump is a conservative? Also, how would it not be the Trumpers fault for selecting literally the only candidate that could have lost to Hilary. brb giving up the senate, the house, and the Supreme Court because a pathological liar says he will build a wall that he has already backed off from.

You realize Trump isn't trying to win? He has no ground game. Clinton is out there in battleground states right now getting people to early vote for her. She has a data operation run by the founder of Google. She has spent 100 million more than him. And anytime a story comes up that paints her in a bad light a Trump immediately does something stupid to dominate the news cycle. Meanwhile Trump sits there and attacks republicans that don't support him. Ok
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post 1459592533 08-27-2016, 05:13 PM
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post 1459593133 08-27-2016, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By bking10⏩
Please tell me how Donald Trump is a conservative? Also, how would it not be the Trumpers fault for selecting literally the only candidate that could have lost to Hilary. brb giving up the senate, the house, and the Supreme Court because a pathological liar says he will build a wall that he has already backed off from.

You realize Trump isn't trying to win? He has no ground game. Clinton is out there in battleground states right now getting people to early vote for her. She has a data operation run by the founder of Google. She has spent 100 million more than him. And anytime a story comes up that paints her in a bad light a Trump immediately does something stupid to dominate the news cycle. Meanwhile Trump sits there and attacks republicans that don't support him. Ok
And you completely failed to acknowledge the Supreme Court issue. Just another NeverTrumper arguing with your ego.
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post 1459593413 08-27-2016, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By bking10⏩
Please tell me how Donald Trump is a conservative? Also, how would it not be the Trumpers fault for selecting literally the only candidate that could have lost to Hilary. brb giving up the senate, the house, and the Supreme Court because a pathological liar says he will build a wall that he has already backed off from.

You realize Trump isn't trying to win? He has no ground game. Clinton is out there in battleground states right now getting people to early vote for her. She has a data operation run by the founder of Google. She has spent 100 million more than him. And anytime a story comes up that paints her in a bad light a Trump immediately does something stupid to dominate the news cycle. Meanwhile Trump sits there and attacks republicans that don't support him. Ok
Against the second most hated candidate they thought it would be smart to pick the number one most hated. And they bragged about not needing the conservative vote because trump will bring in millions of new voters. And now that he's getting rekt they are trying to blame us for it. I didn't pick him, not my fault if he losses.
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post 1459593543 08-27-2016, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By CurlRax⏩
Trump wins anyway so this doesn't much matter. The only way Clinton wins is to rig the vote by pushing no ID at the booths. You see it now with them rigging the polls for it to appear Clinton is ahead, that way you wouldn't be shocked if she won. If she successfully rigs the election and the inevitable recount, you've damned your children and their children. You don't become a multimillionaire on a government salary.
I wish I was optimistic as you. There's no way he can win though. Remember the 2012 election when there were 10+ counties in Pennsylvania without a single vote for Romney? There are hundreds if not thousands of counties across the U.S. that will report fraudulent numbers this year in Clinton's favor.
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post 1459593793 08-27-2016, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By PrivilegeCheker⏩
Against the second most hated candidate they thought it would be smart to pick the number one most hated. And they bragged about not needing the conservative vote because trump will bring in millions of new voters. And now that he's getting rekt they are trying to blame us for it. I didn't pick him, not my fault if he losses.
Are you voting for him? If not, then it is your fault as well as the thousands of other never Trumpers who will be sitting home pouting because they didn't get their way.
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post 1459594363 08-27-2016, 05:27 PM
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It was all over once the idiots united around Trump. You know you're up against the least likable democrat of all time and you manage to pick the only person less likable than her to run against her...lmao. If you're concerned with long term things that are bigger than the president then maybe you shoulda voted with your brain and not your feelings during the primaries.
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Originally Posted By tyqb4⏩
It was all over once the idiots united around Trump. You know you're up against the least likable democrat of all time and you manage to pick the only person less likable than her to run against her...lmao. If you're concerned with long term things that are bigger than the president then maybe you shoulda voted with your brain and not your feelings during the primaries.
I voted for Cruz during the primaries. Your argument is invalid.
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post 1459595013 08-27-2016, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Ok since you're really going to be a dumba*s...

Hillary Clinton's tax and spending proposal will be raising our national debt by over 2 trillion.

Aware me on what other topics I'm "clueless" on?

Hillary is going to raise taxes. Trump is going to lower them.

Hillary's open border immigration plan and her promise allow a 550% increase in documented immigration is going to change the voter demographic of this country FOREVER for the Democratic Party. There will never be another republican. But of course, you don't care.


The fact that you said you don't care if we sink to a third world country like Greece means:

1) You are a dumba*s plain and simple.
2) You are a Hillary supporter.
3) Both of the above.

You sound like the clueless one.
a) Trump also wants to raise taxes

b) Trump also wants to increase spending

So on your points, they're equal. But even if you dispute that...

c) US default < Higher taxes

Your argument holds no logic, you're just voting for Trump based on emotion like a women. You like him because he's confident, nothing more.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
I voted for Cruz during the primaries. Your argument is invalid.
You're right what I said doesn't apply to you then. You think your vote now is better spent on a losing cause than voting 3rd party or writing something in or doing literally anything besides telling them "I will vote for literally anybody you put here as long as they are considered a republican and are running against a democrat"?
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Good post OP.

If you care at all about the constitution, if you care about individual rights and freedoms, Trump is the only reasonable vote to cast this election. With another Clinton Presidency we'll have a Supreme Court full of "strong latinas" like Sonia Sotomayor who couldn't care less about the constitution and keeping it strong.

The Second Amendment will be dismantled. You won't be able to protect yourself as you can now. They'll take our arms away from us and tell us that the government will be there to keep us safe.

The First Amendment will be turned inside out. Allowing laws that say that religious people have to work slave labor for those they don't want to work for and provide healthcare that they don't want to provide. Freedom of speech will be gone, no longer will you be able to speak your mind freely without fear.
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
a) Trump also wants to raise taxes

b) Trump also wants to increase spending

So on your points, they're equal. But even if you dispute that...

c) US default < Higher taxes

Your argument holds no logic, you're just voting for Trump based on emotion like a women. You like him because he's confident, nothing more.
What are you smoking? Trump has outlined his tax/spending reduction plan MULTIPLE times. Do you need me to post 50 links from every major news source out there to support this? Have you ever even watched or listen to him speak? You have zero idea what you're talking about.

You claimed earlier that you don't care if we become a third world country like Greece. That sir, is an emotion-based, apathetic, progressive liberal statement.

I am voting for Trump because of the Supreme Court, because I want to keep my guns and my right to defend myself, because I want immigration laws enforced, because I want lower taxes, because I want better trade deals...and I can keep going.

I have solidly backed up my support for Trump with clearly defined points.

You, however, have pulled multiple inaccuracies out of your a*s and have failed to support any of your claims.
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post 1459596493 08-27-2016, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By tyqb4⏩
You're right what I said doesn't apply to you then. You think your vote now is better spent on a losing cause than voting 3rd party or writing something in or doing literally anything besides telling them "I will vote for literally anybody you put here as long as they are considered a republican and are running against a democrat"?
And you are still ignoring the Supreme Court argument. Voting 3rd party is a totally lost cause. Can't believe you're going to waste gas money and time out of your day to do that. I'm not voting Trump because of the name of his party, I'm voting Trump because he's the only one that can beat Hillary and because I like his immigration policy, his Supreme Court picks, his stance on the 2nd amendment, etc... Your argument makes no sense.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Dead fuking serious. I'm not here to argue any other issue except the Supreme Court. Even if you hate everything else about Trump, how can you not vote for him on the Supreme Court alone?

I'm seriously trying to understand since I have friends who are nevertrumpers and who cannot provide me a solid answer on this issue.

And don't tell me "oh you have know way of knowing he'll do what he says". BS. But ok, fine. Let's assume for a minute that there is no way of knowing if he'll elect conservative justices and follow through... That STILL means there is at least a 50/50 chance.

You KNOW FOR A FACT who Hillary will put in the court. So why in God's name would you not vote Trump on this issue alone?

I really do want to understand. I'm not here to argue any other issue. Just the Supreme Court. So please help me understand.
I agree that that's about the most compelling reason to vote for Trump. Most people have no clue what SCOTUS does or who they are (until one of their Const Rights is gone), so it's a non issue to the generally brain dead public, hence why they can't give you a good answer/response.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
Are you voting for him? If not, then it is your fault as well as the thousands of other never Trumpers who will be sitting home pouting because they didn't get their way.
As of now I am not ready to endorce Trump. Ben Shapiro pretty much always nails how i feel about Trump. I don't consider Trump a true conservative and allowing him to be the face of it will likely destroy the chance of the conservative movement surviving and being passed to the next generation. If republicans want to become the "At least we're not Hillary party" then I dont want to be a part of it anymore. The conservative movement dying is much worse in my opinion than Hillary electing Justices, because at least then we still have a chance to save this nation.
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Most people who are never Trumpers are people who are pro status quo. People who like where they are, like theyre lives and dont want to change vote for Hilary. She's an extention of the same establishment we've had for the last 8 years (more like last 30 years though). Personally, my opionin is my life wont change substantially no matter who is in office so it doesnt really matter to me. I can understand some people who are scared of the uncertainty that is Trump though
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
I agree that that's about the most compelling reason to vote for Trump. Most people have no clue what SCOTUS does or who they are, so it's a non issue to the generally brain dead public, hence why they can't give you a good answer/response.
A special thanks to our liberal public schools/universities. They're more focused on teaching kids about Malcom X, white supremacy, gender neutrality,and global warming than helping them understand our government. The brain-dead zombies that come about as a result can be seen in multiple posts throughout this thread.
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Originally Posted By neverquit2012⏩
What are you smoking? Trump has outlined his tax/spending reduction plan MULTIPLE times. Do you need me to post 50 links from every major news source out there to support this? Have you ever even watched or listen to him speak? You have zero idea what you're talking about.
Originally Posted By CNN
Trump is calling for 30,000 troops
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politi...0-troops-isis/

How much do you suppose yet another open-ended middle eastern war is gonna cost us. Is the Trump administration gonna lie like Bush & Cheney and tell us how we'll be greeted as liberators and we'll be in and out within 6 months?
Originally Posted By ABC
U.S. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Sunday he is open to raising taxes on wealthy Americans, backing off his prior proposal to reduce taxes on all Americans.

“I am willing to pay more, and you know what, the wealthy are willing to pay more,” Trump told ABC’s This Week.
http://fortune.com/2016/05/08/trump-...taxes-wealthy/

Have you ever even watched or listen to him speak? You have zero idea what you're talking about.
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Originally Posted By shortstrokegym⏩
I wonder this myself. this is the real issue, not guns, gays, race, etc...
Yet those are all issues SCOTUS may rule on, so in a way it is about those very topics.
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Originally Posted By Qong⏩
Good post OP.

If you care at all about the constitution, if you care about individual rights and freedoms, Trump is the only reasonable vote to cast this election. With another Clinton Presidency we'll have a Supreme Court full of "strong latinas" like Sonia Sotomayor who couldn't care less about the constitution and keeping it strong.

The Second Amendment will be dismantled. You won't be able to protect yourself as you can now. They'll take our arms away from us and tell us that the government will be there to keep us safe.

The First Amendment will be turned inside out. Allowing laws that say that religious people have to work slave labor for those they don't want to work for and provide healthcare that they don't want to provide. Freedom of speech will be gone, no longer will you be able to speak your mind freely without fear.
No one is coming to take the guns because no one is going to give them up. We're not a bunch of low test cucks like Europe or Australia.
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Originally Posted By PrivilegeCheker⏩
As of now I am not ready to endorce Trump. Ben Shapiro pretty much always nails how i feel about Trump. I don't consider Trump a true conservative and allowing him to be the face of it will likely destroy the chance of the conservative movement surviving and being passed to the next generation. If republicans want to become the "At least we're not Hillary party" then I dont want to be a part of it anymore. The conservative movement dying is much worse in my opinion than Hillary electing Justices, because at least then we still have a chance to save this nation.
So you really believe there is hope for the republicans after a Clinton presidency/Supreme Court? Have you not read the political statistics/demographics? Have you not seen how close this country already is to becoming a liberal majority? Do you not understand how a 550% increase in immigration + open borders will guarantee another republican is never elected?

I won't argue that Trump is not a true conservative. If you ever want a true conservative to be elected again though, then you should be very concerned about Hillary's immigration policies and very enthusiastic about Trump's. At least with Trump's closed border, there's a chance a true conservative can win in the future. You and I both know that once Hillary enacts her immigration policies there will never be another conservative in the White House, not even a moderate.
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Originally Posted By PrivilegeCheker⏩
No one is coming to take the guns because no one is going to give them up. We're not a bunch of low test cucks like Europe or Australia.
Obviously gun confiscation wouldn't work. The liberals will slowly enact more and more restrictions on ammo and guns until it's so expensive/difficult to purchase these items that people give up. It's already happened with short-barrel rifles and supressors. Assault rifles will also be banned from purchasing.
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Originally Posted By PrivilegeCheker⏩
No one is coming to take the guns because no one is going to give them up. We're not a bunch of low test cucks like Europe or Australia.
Oh I agree. I live in New York and the leadership in the state has already tried and failed to get citizens to willingly hand over their arms. That doesn't mean they won't continue plucking away the feathers though. They can do that and they will do that. Many of us are already unable to purchase the things that we want and it's going to get worse. Nonsense rules about things like stocks and grips. They'll continue making these nonsense rules until the arms that we're legally allowed to own are virtually useless. It's just another way for them to ban arms that they don't like.
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Originally Posted By JB05⏩
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politi...0-troops-isis/

How much do you suppose yet another open-ended middle eastern war is gonna cost us. Is the Trump administration gonna lie like Bush & Cheney and tell us how we'll be greeted as liberators and we'll be in and out within 6 months?


http://fortune.com/2016/05/08/trump-...taxes-wealthy/

Have you ever even watched or listen to him speak? You have zero idea what you're talking about.
Seriously? You're worried about how much a war will cost? How much do you think welfare and food stamps for the 550% increase in immigrants that Clinton is bringing in will cost?
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Originally Posted By Qong⏩
Oh I agree. I live in New York and the leadership in the state has already tried and failed to get citizens to willingly hand over their arms. That doesn't mean they won't continue plucking away the feathers though. They can do that and they will do that. Many of us are already unable to purchase the things that we want and it's going to get worse. Nonsense rules about things like stocks and grips. They'll continue making these nonsense rules until the arms that we're legally allowed to own are virtually useless. It's just another way for them to ban arms that they don't like.
Few people actually believe the liberals will enact gun confiscation. Like you said, they will enact more and more restrictions until buying a gun/ammo is so difficult it's no longer worth it.
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