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Originally Posted By WeedWizard420
There's no way you can downplay misspelling a three letter word lmfao. You're a retard.
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Blacks overseas is a great example. They grow up in an European setting with no aspect of American inner city life.

Then they start listening to Rap. Here comes the baseball hats, over-sized clothing and basketball shoes. The lingo changes and respect for women drops.

This is also true with Turkish youth in Germany. Much different than the youth in Turkey. The ones in Germany dress and act like in the Rap videos. ie Male Turks in Turkey don't wear diamond earrings but the ones in Germany do.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
I don't think it's that simple.

Music is a part of culture, and music can foster culture. Sub-cultures can, and do develop around music (Grunge music in the 90s, drug culture and house music in the 90s UK, Kpop, etc).

But it's important to note, I was referring to the culture/media of hip hop, the music is a core part of it.

I am also referring to the communication patterns, values, images, etc of hip hop.
Right and for whatever reason a majority of blacks will defend ghetto culture even if they're way removed from the ghetto married with a mortgage and a minivan
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Originally Posted By Jeeter
This. Jesus Christ can we just let music be music? If you're a white guy that listens to death metal I won't associate you with Satanism and church burning. If I'm a guy that listens to rap then just see me as that. A guy that enjoys rap.
How many churches were burned down this YEAR by guys listening to heavy metal? 0-1 maybe

How many people were murdered in one city in the United states(Chicago) last MONTH that listens to rap music that glorifies ghetto culture? 90

Great comparison
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Originally Posted By gladiatorsong
We are discussingthe mainstream. What is most popular. What an impressionable youth is most likely to be influenced by

Who gives a sh*t about some obscure genre/artist that only a tiny percentage listens to. I'm sure there are some nice and friendly subsections of Islam too.
I can confirm, Wu Tang raised me.

But seriously, think about who or what pushesmainstreammedia. It's not the kids in the hood or the gang bangers robbing people who define the popular culture. It's usually the middle class viewers, and in my own opinion the gov't, that decides whats "hip" and acceptable. Why would you allow the glorification of gangs and drugs on television and radio unless you're trying to create an idea or influence of a certain denomination.

But as someone said earlier in this thread, there is plenty of rap and hip hop promoting reform and shedding light on the negativity of the hood. Pretty sure that's why K Dot is getting all his recognition.
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It is difficult for someone regularly listening to Rap to comprehend the reality. When I hear Rap today it sounds like a foreign language to me. And since so much of mainstream Rap today is sampling EDM melodies - why not avoid the lingo preaching and go straight to the source?
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Originally Posted By AK1615
I can confirm, Wu Tang raised me.

But seriously, think about who or what pushesmainstreammedia. It's not the kids in the hood or the gang bangers robbing people who define the popular culture. It's usually the middle class viewers, and in my own opinion the gov't, that decides whats "hip" and acceptable. Why would you allow the glorification of gangs and drugs on television and radio unless you're trying to create an idea or influence of a certain denomination.

But as someone said earlier in this thread, there is plenty of rap and hip hop promoting reform and shedding light on the negativity of the hood. Pretty sure that's why K Dot is getting all his recognition.
Jewbro is giving certain artist more airtime but check out these Black Award shows and I don't think you can really blame that on corporate America.


ie Jesse Williams "inspirational" acceptance speech for Humanitarian Award at the BET awards.
"with an impassioned speech calling for an end to police killings, racial inequality and cultural appropriation."

Says it all right there. On stage @ the Jewish owned BET awards and instead of calling out the negative aspects of Rap, he decided to victimhood authority. And doubled down on the destructive aspects of Rap by preaching cultural appropriation.

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Op do you realize that white people listen to more hip hop than blacks( go to any mainstream hip hop concert)??? I don't see them shooting everyone. People with brain cells can tell the difference between real life and rap/ hip hop
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Lol its just music
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How can African Americans subject themselves to this chit?

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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah
You didn't know about Shuggie Otis until Dallas Buyer's Club.

JFC stop relying on mainstream media to find music.
What was the point of making that post?
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Originally Posted By RC2008
For those of us who have a few brain cells, we know not to take hip hop culture too seriously.
Like I said to someone else.

Please put aside the emotional enjoyment for a second, listen to lyrics, and contemplate what a community would look like if it actually took the values and behavior promoted seriously.

It would look like a black majority community in the US. Hip hop is a culture, not just music, which is what I wrote in the OP.

Please read what I written guys.
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Originally Posted By FLChamp
More white people consume and purchase hip hop culture than black people.
I'm getting frustrated, did you read the OP?

I already stated that it's not just the music, the combination of poor parenting and violent social environment is also a factor.

The white middle class kids who are making rappers go platinum do not grow up with violent, abusive or absentee parents, and nor do they grow up in a ghetto, and nor do they experience social pressure to conform to an ethnic stereotype from within their own community(I'm sure you know what I'm talking about).

All those factors mean that the music is not just music to a lot of kids growing up, it's a culture, one that they recognize and internalize.
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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY
Why are these questions never posed in regards to heavy metal, EDM, death metal and those genres? Do these types of music not promote violence, sex and extreme drug use? Yes, they do. Oh, but that's alright....because it's not hip hop.

Lol, gotta love that selective targeting.
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its just entertainment. im sure you watch movies with violence and drug use in them so why cant i listen to urbans rap about slanging crack?
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Originally Posted By second2noneBrah
How many churches were burned down this YEAR by guys listening to heavy metal? 0-1 maybe

How many people were murdered in one city in the United states(Chicago) last MONTH that listens to rap music that glorifies ghetto culture? 90

Great comparison
Right I'm sure Dylan Roof was listening to Drake and French Montana when he lit up that church. I bet Elliot Rodger was bumping that new Migos when he went crazy. Wonder what Nas album those Columbine kids where listening to before they shot up the school.

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Originally Posted By YIAMSOMEBODY
Why are these questions never posed in regards to heavy metal, EDM, death metal and those genres? Do these types of music not promote violence, sex and extreme drug use?
Dude... Rock music was (and is) targeted by the christian right in the US. Even to this day the 'illumanti/satan is trying to control the population via popular music' is a reoccurring angle in christian analysis of secular culture.

Are you honestly not aware of that?

Just do a youtube search, and listen to some white christian preachers talking about pop and rock music.

Also those music tend not promote violence, but sex and extreme drug use if a part of it, and provocative non-black performers were criticized by the mainstream. People literally said that rock and roll was Satan's music.
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Originally Posted By ontclone
Op do you realize that white people listen to more hip hop than blacks
*sigh*

Whites - 65% of the population
Blacks - 13% of the population



Are you surprised when you meet a black individual that doesn't listen to Rap?
Are you surprised when you meet a white individual that doesn't listen to Rap?
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Originally Posted By WolfishGrin
Lol its just music
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[QUOTE=sunchine post_id=1460739803]How can African Americans subject themselves to this chit?

[youtubrF-hq_CHNH0[/youtube][/QUOTE]I haven't heard that trash a day in my life and I have no idea who that man is. I didn't even listening to rap until I was 18 and its either 80's/90's classics, KDot, and J Cole. I hate most modern rap songs especially trap. Most of the white posters in here are racist *******s who already have their own idea of how Black people think. They're not going to listen to any other argument that goes against their narrative.
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Originally Posted By gladiatorsong
We are discussingthe mainstream. What is most popular. What an impressionable youth is most likely to be influenced by

Who gives a sh*t about some obscure genre/artist that only a tiny percentage listens to. I'm sure there are some nice and friendly subsections of Islam too.
No, YOU are discussing mainstream while ignoring points given to you because your agenda is to push the bad, nothing else.

The man just said not all rap is like that, and it's not. Just because that garbage gets play on the radio doesn't mean every fukcing artist is saying the same thing. I bet there's a rock band you like that doesn't get much shine above the garbage rock that's played over and over. Their music may be better, but execs don't want THAT, they want this. Now, if I said, "This is all that's played on the radio", you'd find a way to give me at least 10 acts that are better than my post to sh** on the genre.

Same fukcing concept. Stop playing dumb.
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Originally Posted By 4everalone
What music genre do you think most gang members / violent criminals listen to? EDM? Lmaooo they peak to sick trance tunes right before busting a cap in someone
Simple truth, they diet themselves on a particular genre of music,that reinforces their values and behavior.
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Originally Posted By gladiatorsong
Are you surprised when you meet a black individual that doesn't listen to Rap?
Are you surprised when you meet a white individual that doesn't listen to Rap?
Does anyone else realize this guy is full of shyt and all he's doing is projecting his narrow minded view of the world into this thread? What we have here is obviously a guy that is socially ignorant.

Why would anyone be surprised at a black person not listening to hip hop?

Do you think we all listen to the same shyt?
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry
This used to be true. Not anymore. It is actually the reverse these days. Kids dress exactly like rappers and imitate them completely.The hood was never wearing tight jeans and rock tee shirts/dyed hair until rappers did it. You are only fooling yourself if you believe otherwise.
Exactly.

How many dudes started wearing pink t shirts after Camron started wearing pink T shirts on a cover?

People are in denial about how mainstream rappers influence culture, they seem to think the influence is one way.
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Originally Posted By Jeeter
Right I'm sure Dylan Roof was listening to Drake and French Montana when he lit up that church. I bet Elliot Rodger was bumping that new Migos when he went crazy. Wonder what Nas album those Columbine kids where listening to before they shot up the school.

Yeah your argument has no legs. Its Lieutenant Dan.
don't know if this is true, but i googled dylan roof music and articles came up stating that his music interests ranged fromc lassical to rap and that one of his favorite songs was Ice Cream Truck by Montana of 300

http://www.thestate.com/news/local/c...e35836482.html
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Originally Posted By Jeeter
Does anyone else realize this guy is full of shyt and all he's doing is projecting his narrow minded view of the world into this thread? What we have here is obviously a guy that is socially ignorant.

Why would anyone be surprised at a black person not listening to hip hop?

Do you think we all listen to the same shyt?
Yes, he absolutely 100% thinks we do. Even if you provide a solid argument, he'll still find a way to group us under the same umbrella. But, let us group him with everyone else, "Wait, they don't speak for me.....I'm an individual." Lol, wow.....
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Originally Posted By ontclone
Op do you realize that white people listen to more hip hop than blacks( go to any mainstream hip hop concert)??? I don't see them shooting everyone. People with brain cells can tell the difference between real life and rap/ hip hop
I've addressed that twice.

They don't grow up in the same social and family environment as the kids growing up in the ghetto.

They aren't the ones damaged or influenced by the music.

Art is an integral part of any culture, and the dominate form of art within hip hop culture is music. The the most popular artists promote values and behavior that if emulated, result in black majority ghettos.

I have watched in bafflement at middle class black kids in the US trying to emulate the speech patterns, and behavior of black kids growing up in the ghetto.
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I even knew a middle class US black kid who came to the UK, I hung out with him for a summer. Dude went back home and tried to be gangster - the last picture I saw of him was him gesturing like he was pulling a trigger with a smirk in a group photo.

Dude was obsessed with hip hop culture, and evidently thought that's what being a 'real nikka' was all about. A lot of black people IME think that someone who doesn't talk with ebonics isn't 'black enough', and that their is same in not being a tough guy.
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Originally Posted By Jeeter
Right I'm sure Dylan Roof was listening to Drake and French Montana when he lit up that church. I bet Elliot Rodger was bumping that new Migos when he went crazy. Wonder what Nas album those Columbine kids where listening to before they shot up the school.

Yeah your argument has no legs. Its Lieutenant Dan.
Lmao ok 1 in 3 years. There's been over 1000 in 3 years in Chicago. Gotta take responsibility for the way things are going in your community. It ain't the evil white devil
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