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Gary Johnson issues statement about Aleppo-Gate.

Also, Gary Johnson's google searches and is trending on cnn/twitter. This may be the best thing to happen to his campaign. He is getting mainstream attention and it is not really negative attention. Google searches for "aleppo" are surging on google as most people do not know wtf Aleppo is.
He may have got himself into the debates with his "mishap".

Also, Gary Johnson's google searches and is trending on cnn/twitter. This may be the best thing to happen to his campaign. He is getting mainstream attention and it is not really negative attention. Google searches for "aleppo" are surging on google as most people do not know wtf Aleppo is.
He may have got himself into the debates with his "mishap".
Originally Posted By Procta⏩
As disgusted as Republicans and Democrats are for the filth they picked.Libertarians should be disgusted at this pick for their party
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Originally Posted By Procta⏩
Better they should go back to being totally unknown. Great plan that. No, he's not a "true" Libertarian per OP. The GOP should be far more disgusted with what ended up as their candidate and the Dems are, well, Dems, so who cares.Libertarians should be disgusted at this pick for their party
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Asking what Aleppo is and being "well informed" do not coincide with one another.
Media gon media, sure, but that's not nearly the same case here as the 2A example you gave. He literally had no idea what Aleppo was. Funny he doesn't correct himself at the time when it was made clear he was being asked about Syria.
Personally, I don't think we should do a single thing in Syria, but I'm also informed on the current situation over there and certainly know what Aleppo is.
Rand Paul's approach to Syria (and foreign policy in general) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone's
Media gon media, sure, but that's not nearly the same case here as the 2A example you gave. He literally had no idea what Aleppo was. Funny he doesn't correct himself at the time when it was made clear he was being asked about Syria.
Personally, I don't think we should do a single thing in Syria, but I'm also informed on the current situation over there and certainly know what Aleppo is.
Rand Paul's approach to Syria (and foreign policy in general) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone's
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Seems alot of people are happy with who WE chose as the GOP candidate... Gary Johnson is a terrible candidate. Trump is the best, no, but with the right people around him I like where he stands on things. Johnson is just a lost puppy and honestly acts like a cry baby.Better they should go back to being totally unknown. Great plan that. No, he's not a "true" Libertarian per OP. The GOP should be far more disgusted with what ended up as their candidate and the Dems are, well, Dems, so who cares.
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People want a 3rd party to contest but your not going to persuade the population to go full 3rd party without having a more moderate candidate take office.....someone like a Trump would help that shift as GOP and Dems hate him especially if he succeeds so I would think libertarians should vote Trump to help push that party shift
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Originally Posted By metallicide⏩
He has the lowest approval ratings within his own party in history in the 60% + disapproval. So, most people in the GOP are not at all happy with their candidate.Seems alot of people are happy with who WE chose as the GOP candidate... Gary Johnson is a terrible candidate. Trump is the best, no, but with the right people around him I like where he stands on things. Johnson is just a lost puppy and honestly acts like a cry baby.
Like many, I'll vote for Trump mostly because he's not HC, but maybe get your facts right at least. I know, comment first, get facts second, is a tradition on the misc.
You like where Trump stands on things? Which Trump would that be:
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
I didn't say that the GOP likes him, but he got the candidacy by our votes... I think that say enough.. and the most votes of any nominee in history.. No he's not the preferred candidate but next to Hillary i'd vote a walking turd.He has the lowest approval ratings within his own party in history in the 60% + disapproval. So, most people in the GOP are not at all happy with their candidate.
Like many, I'll vote for Trump mostly because he's not HC, but maybe get your facts right at least. I know, comment first, get facts second, is a tradition on the misc.
You like where Trump stands on things? Which Trump would that be:
Like many, I'll vote for Trump mostly because he's not HC, but maybe get your facts right at least. I know, comment first, get facts second, is a tradition on the misc.
You like where Trump stands on things? Which Trump would that be:
And yes I know his unfavorable rating..
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Originally Posted By JimFromRaleigh1⏩
They are googling his stupid ass response and will see the rest of his meltdowns about illegal immigrants and his tantrums.. He's getting tons of negative attention lol. You are still an idiotGary Johnson issues statement about Aleppo-Gate.

Also, Gary Johnson's google searches and is trending on cnn/twitter. This may be the best thing to happen to his campaign. He is getting mainstream attention and it is not really negative attention. Google searches for "aleppo" are surging on google as most people do not know wtf Aleppo is.
He may have got himself into the debates with his "mishap".
As disgusted as Republicans and Democrats are for the filth they picked.

Also, Gary Johnson's google searches and is trending on cnn/twitter. This may be the best thing to happen to his campaign. He is getting mainstream attention and it is not really negative attention. Google searches for "aleppo" are surging on google as most people do not know wtf Aleppo is.
He may have got himself into the debates with his "mishap".
As disgusted as Republicans and Democrats are for the filth they picked.
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Originally Posted By metallicide⏩
Goes without saying, but not really the point. Two, per OP, polls show Trump actually does better when there's a third party candidate in the mix.I didn't say that the GOP likes him, but he got the candidacy by our votes... I think that say enough.. and the most votes of any nominee in history.. No he's not the preferred candidate butnext to Hillary i'd vote a walking turd.
And yes I know his unfavorable rating..
And yes I know his unfavorable rating..
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Originally Posted By metallicide⏩
LOL at not seeing Gary Johnson is playing 9D Afghani Chess.They are googling his stupid ass response and will see the rest of his meltdowns about illegal immigrants and his tantrums.. He's getting tons of negative attention lol. You are still an idiot
He may have just paved his way to the debates.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Fuk the party. Who cares what a bunch of elitists think? Trump has more primary votes than any other candidate in history. The American people have spoken and overwhelmingly want Trump.He has the lowest approval ratings within his own party in history in the 60% + disapproval. So, most people in the GOP are not at all happy with their candidate.
Originally Posted By JimFromRaleigh1⏩
You're delusional.LOL at not seeing Gary Johnson is playing 9D Afghani Chess.
He may have just paved his way to the debates.
He may have just paved his way to the debates.
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Originally Posted By JimFromRaleigh1⏩
Jesus christ you are obviously trolling lolLOL at not seeing Gary Johnson is playing 9D Afghani Chess.
He may have just paved his way to the debates.
He may have just paved his way to the debates.
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Again the difference between GJ and HC, Trump etc. If anyone claims HC, Trump, or 99% of other politicians would simply man up and take full responsibility for the flub, you're experiencing a bad case of cognitive dissonance. A thoughtful honest response from GJ. People seem so numb to even the concept of integrity in their politicians these days, a person who has been caught lying under oath (and that's just for starters...) and a a guy who has changed political affiliations five times and done a 180 on every major topic is the better choice? No. Again, does anyone even remember what integrity sounds like? A whole lot like that...A leader willing to not pass the buck on blame when he/she makes a mistake is the type of leader I want vs knowing they will blame it on a speech writer, underling, etc:
Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson said Friday he should have known what "Aleppo" was when asked earlier this week.
"I take complete responsibility. I'm running for president of the United States. Look, I should have known what he was talking about," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
"We weren't even talking about it in the context of anything, but that said ... Aleppo is the epicenter of what is happening in Syria."
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politi...ohnson-aleppo/
Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson said Friday he should have known what "Aleppo" was when asked earlier this week.
"I take complete responsibility. I'm running for president of the United States. Look, I should have known what he was talking about," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
"We weren't even talking about it in the context of anything, but that said ... Aleppo is the epicenter of what is happening in Syria."
Full vid:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politi...ohnson-aleppo/
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Absolutely correct. Trump obviously has as little or less knowledge of situation on the ground in Syria as Johnson, but instead of admitting it, he says he knows more than the generals and has a secret plan to win Syria but he can't share it because then the enemy would know. We all know what his plan is - just keep licking Putin's boots while they destroy the country.Again the difference between GJ and HC, Trump etc. If anyone claims HC, Trump, or 99% of other politicians would simply man up and take full responsibility for the flub, you're experiencing a bad case of cognitive dissonance. A thoughtful honest response from GJ. People seem so numb to even the concept of integrity in their politicians these days, a person who has been caught lying under oath (and that's just for starters...) and a a guy who has changed political affiliations five times and done a 180 on every major topic is the better choice? No. Again, does anyone even remember what integrity sounds like? A whole lot like that...A leader willing to not pass the buck on blame when he/she makes a mistake is the type of leader I want vs knowing they will blame it on a speech writer, underling, etc:
Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson said Friday he should have known what "Aleppo" was when asked earlier this week.
"I take complete responsibility. I'm running for president of the United States. Look, I should have known what he was talking about," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
"We weren't even talking about it in the context of anything, but that said ... Aleppo is the epicenter of what is happening in Syria."
Full vid:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politi...ohnson-aleppo/
Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson said Friday he should have known what "Aleppo" was when asked earlier this week.
"I take complete responsibility. I'm running for president of the United States. Look, I should have known what he was talking about," he told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
"We weren't even talking about it in the context of anything, but that said ... Aleppo is the epicenter of what is happening in Syria."
Full vid:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politi...ohnson-aleppo/
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
For the sake of argument, let's say you're right. How is this not the best strategy for us to take in Syria? We don't need anymore dead Americans over there or billions of spent dollars.We all know what his plan is - just keep licking Putin's boots while they destroy the country.
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
You want to be a Russian satellite state with our military more or less under Putin's command? USSSR? Trump didn't say we're going to withdraw from Syria and save the money, he said we're going to align ourselves with the Russians' goals.For the sake of argument, let's say you're right. How is this not the best strategy for us to take in Syria? We don't need anymore dead Americans over there or billions of spent dollars.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
Who gives a fuk what Russia does with Syria? Plus, I agree with Russia's stance on Syria and their support of Assad. We should not be involved in anyway, but if we are going to do anything, it should be in the support of Assad.You want to be a Russian satellite state with our military more or less under Putin's command? USSSR? Trump didn't say we're going to withdraw from Syria and save the money, he said we're going to align ourselves with the Russians' goals.
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Originally Posted By WillBrink⏩
Didn't Trump add, "which would be unfortunate" or something to that extent to the end of his 2nd Amendment statement (the full audio clip wasn't played in the media often)? What would be unfortunate? That 2nd Amendment voters voted against HRC? Why is that unfortunate for Donald Trump?Meh, he's obviously switched on regarding the conflict and probably better informed than Trump on the topic. He had a brain fart to be sure, but you can easily see he knows what's going on in Syria:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/liber...ry?id=41944791
When Trump says something goofy and it's taken out of context by the media (like claiming he made threats to HC via his comments on "2A people" when anyone can see he meant nothing of the sort by that comment) people are quick to defend and (rightly so) point out what lying sacks of chit is the media. When it's done to candidate not Trump, it's OK. Even when it's HC, I still attempt to look passed the media bias and BS to see what's really going on, and my guess is the media had decided GJ a big enough threat to start using its dirty pool tactics, like vids only showing a snippet where he looks like an idiot and nothing about the details he added to the issue once he got focused on it.
GJ is not a perfect human being nor perfect candidate, but he's more honest a person on his worst day than Hill-Trump combined, and that carries some weight for me. Your mileage may differ.
All I can say is, you don't get to have your cake and eat it to, and when the media costs Trump the election due to using an ever increasing number of ill thought out statements to take him out, don't bitch.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/liber...ry?id=41944791
When Trump says something goofy and it's taken out of context by the media (like claiming he made threats to HC via his comments on "2A people" when anyone can see he meant nothing of the sort by that comment) people are quick to defend and (rightly so) point out what lying sacks of chit is the media. When it's done to candidate not Trump, it's OK. Even when it's HC, I still attempt to look passed the media bias and BS to see what's really going on, and my guess is the media had decided GJ a big enough threat to start using its dirty pool tactics, like vids only showing a snippet where he looks like an idiot and nothing about the details he added to the issue once he got focused on it.
GJ is not a perfect human being nor perfect candidate, but he's more honest a person on his worst day than Hill-Trump combined, and that carries some weight for me. Your mileage may differ.
All I can say is, you don't get to have your cake and eat it to, and when the media costs Trump the election due to using an ever increasing number of ill thought out statements to take him out, don't bitch.
I do think there was some sinister intent behind his statement, i.e. vague references to assasination.
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Originally Posted By GhenghisPWN⏩
I think what he said was "that would be a horrible day". That was the part that made the whole statement questionable to start with. I mean, the dude sitting behind him had the look like "did he really just say that"? If he reacted that way, I don't see why it's surprising that others did, too.Didn't Trump add, "which would be unfortunate" or something to that extent to the end of his 2nd Amendment statement (the full audio clip wasn't played in the media often)? What would be unfortunate? That 2nd Amendment voters voted against HRC? Why is that unfortunate for Donald Trump?
I do think there was some sinister intent behind his statement, i.e. vague references to assasination.
I do think there was some sinister intent behind his statement, i.e. vague references to assasination.
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Originally Posted By GhenghisPWN⏩
Nothing I heard sounded like a vague threat. People hear what they want to hear. Typical of Trump, it could have been worded better for sure, but I heard no threat, but more important, don't think any vague threat was intended by his statement.Didn't Trump add, "which would be unfortunate" or something to that extent to the end of his 2nd Amendment statement (the full audio clip wasn't played in the media often)? What would be unfortunate? That 2nd Amendment voters voted against HRC? Why is that unfortunate for Donald Trump?
I do think there was some sinister intent behind his statement, i.e. vague references to assasination.
I do think there was some sinister intent behind his statement, i.e. vague references to assasination.
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Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
But we decided to support and arm dem "moderate" rebels which forced the Russians hand. Assad is a POS, but like most dictators he keeps his area stable and was a secular government vs zealot muslim loonie. Trump plans to send 30k troops you recall so Trump seems to have no plans to go non interventionist here and let the Russians deal with it. Do you want 30k boots on the ground to fight ISIS? I'm not thrilled with that idea.For the sake of argument, let's say you're right. How is this not the best strategy for us to take in Syria? We don't need anymore dead Americans over there or billions of spent dollars.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
lmao holy chit at this Red Scare fear mongering. Yeah... How DARE we let Russia use their manpower and resources to blow ISIS into irrelevance. We have to be the nanny for Syria because Russia will take control of our minds with their big, spooky mind-control satellites.You want to be a Russian satellite state with our military more or less under Putin's command? USSSR? Trump didn't say we're going to withdraw from Syria and save the money, he said we're going to align ourselves with the Russians' goals.
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Originally Posted By tpittma2⏩
Russia hasn't been targeting ISIS at all. They're assisting the Syrian regime (that is currently dropping chemical weapons on their own country) against the groups that most seriously threaten the regime, which are mostly the US and Turkey backed "rebels". I'm OK with scaling back our presence in Syria, especially in terms of arming various rebel groups, and just targeting ISIS, but I'm not OK saying we should be aligned with Russia to prop up a brutal dictator.lmao holy chit at this Red Scare fear mongering. Yeah... How DARE we let Russia use their manpower and resources to blow ISIS into irrelevance. We have to be the nanny for Syria because Russia will take control of our minds with their big, spooky mind-control satellites.
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Originally Posted By tpittma2⏩
LOL indeed. You did classic misc: speak first research later. Try the reverse, then comment. I know, crazy idea.lmao holy chit at this Red Scare fear mongering. Yeah... How DARE we let Russia use their manpower and resources to blow ISIS into irrelevance. We have to be the nanny for Syria because Russia will take control of our minds with their big, spooky mind-control satellites.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
While they are assisting Syria, they are absolutely targeting ISIS. In the wake of ISIS atrocities in Bangladesh – where it murdered 20 hostages in a restaurant in the capital Dhaka – and Baghdad, Iraq, where a car bomb killed 125 shoppers, Putin authorized sending its largest warship, plus 30 jet fighters and attack helicopters to destroy ISIS.Russia hasn't been targeting ISIS at all. They're assisting the Syrian regime...
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Originally Posted By HoganIsGOAT⏩
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/...ing-them-17554While they are assisting Syria, they are absolutely targeting ISIS. In the wake of ISIS atrocities in Bangladesh – where it murdered 20 hostages in a restaurant in the capital Dhaka – and Baghdad, Iraq, where a car bomb killed 125 shoppers, Putin authorized sending its largest warship, plus 30 jet fighters and attack helicopters to destroy ISIS.
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Putin continues to use airstrikes in Syria to strengthen Assad’s regime at the expense of U.S.-backed rebel forces fighting ISIS. Onlyten out of approximately fifty-threeRussian strikes in the past month targeted ISIS-controlled territory.
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